[APP][7.0+][v4.3.6] BubbleUPnP - UPnP/DLNA/Chromecast Control Point and Renderer

[staxas]

I have a bluetooth issue. Tested with 2 bluetooth headsets (Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT and Sonume Sport), the back button/function on bluetooth headsets works with the PowerAmp app (not tested with other apps), but not with Bubbleupnp. Other functionality on the devices works as expected.

Is this a known issue?

 

[Sid32]

I have a bluetooth issue. Tested with 2 bluetooth headsets (Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT and Sonume Sport), the back button/function on bluetooth headsets works with the PowerAmp app (not tested with other apps), but not with Bubbleupnp. Other functionality on the devices works as expected.

Is this a known issue?

Bluetooth issues should be a Android thing. But if you are casting a video you would have to attach the bluetooth to the tv, not the phone.

 

[ch_998]

Hello Bubbleguum,
I installed bubble server, asset etc, on a new silent Qnap NAS. Everything works fine again except the FFMPEG transcoding (which is, I believe, correctly installed). Transcoding from Flac to WAV from Asset viav the bubble server sound slow and heavily distorted. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Chris

 

[SuperS1]

Hi, I'm looking for streaming videos from my Google Photos account onto my Fire TV Stick
Is there an option to add a Google Photos account as cloud storage in the app?

 

[UltraMagnus0001]

Any tips on how to get the app tunneled through cloudflare tunnel? I can access bubleupnp's configuration settings through the domain name, but the android app don't find the server through the domain. I can access everything through my DDNS with an open port fine, but Im trying to close my ports on the router.

 

[bubbleguuum]

BubbleUPnP 4.0 announcement


I've been working on BubbleUPnP 4.0.

It will refresh the UI with Material Design 3, including (optional) Material You support (on Android 12+). It's been a lot of work and there is still a lot to do as the app is huge (and old, 12 years and counting. First version was released on Android 2.3!). Converting the app settings to androidx.preference, fragments and tweak some prefs for MD3 took several days alone!

Here's a few work-in-progress screenshots until a beta is available later this month.

The screenshots show various combinations of material You in dark and light mode. There's also to the ability to combine a light theme with dark bars for a look close to the current Light + dark bars theme (last screenshot). Note that dynamic tinting of the Now Playing screen based on cover colors is not yet implemented (as in the current version) but this is planned.

 

[krilok]

BubbleUPnP 4.0 announcement


I've been working on BubbleUPnP 4.0.

It will refresh the UI with Material Design 3, including (optional) Material You support (on Android 12+). It's been a lot of work and there is still a lot to do as the app is huge (and old, 12 years and counting. First version was released on Android 2.3!). Converting the app settings to androidx.preference, fragments and tweak some prefs for MD3 took several days alone!

Here's a few work-in-progress screenshots until a beta is available later this month.

The screenshots show various combinations of material You in dark and light mode. There's also to the ability to combine a light theme with dark bars for a look close to the current Light + dark bars theme (last screenshot). Note that dynamic tinting of the Now Playing screen based on cover colors is not yet implemented (as in the current version) but this is planned.

Looks great... Just recently I was thinking the app could use a refresh, so really looking forward to the update...

 

[lornness]

This is the best app to stream Tidal and Qobuz. I use it everyday. However, could you please add support to show Tidal’s MQA album / tracks and let them(MQA) passthrough to MQA capable streamer/DAC? Otherwise I’ll need to switch to mconnect/mcontrol for Tidal’s MQA tracks which is not convenient and I don’t like the buggy mconnect/mcontrol.

 

[davor.f]

BubbleUPnP 4.0 announcement


I've been working on BubbleUPnP 4.0.

It will refresh the UI with Material Design 3, including (optional) Material You support (on Android 12+). It's been a lot of work and there is still a lot to do as the app is huge (and old, 12 years and counting. First version was released on Android 2.3!). Converting the app settings to androidx.preference, fragments and tweak some prefs for MD3 took several days alone!

Here's a few work-in-progress screenshots until a beta is available later this month.

The screenshots show various combinations of material You in dark and light mode. There's also to the ability to combine a light theme with dark bars for a look close to the current Light + dark bars theme (last screenshot). Note that dynamic tinting of the Now Playing screen based on cover colors is not yet implemented (as in the current version) but this is planned.

Hello!

New UI looks great. Really slick and modern. I'm just hoping you will have some time to look into the Exact matches search issue on Tidal I've mentioned earlier. I have another example you can test on - searching for Dark Side of the Moon (both, with and without "The" in the beginning) exact matches doesn't return Pink Floyd in Albums section at all. Considering it's not some unknown or new band/album, but one of the most influential albums, I think this shouldn't happen.

Besides making separate section for Exact matches at the beginning, I have 2 more potential solutions that would make accessing Tidal search much easier, and I hope you would consider them:

1. Instead of making 2 sections at the last search screen (after picking Albums - title, Albums - artists etc.), the differentiation could be done on the previous screen. So, there would be Exact matches section with Albums - title, Albums - artists, and then Tidal section with Albums - title, Albums - artists etc.
2. In case you don't want to change the way application behaves (user experience), there could be a setting that would allow user to pick what would application show after searching. So, either Exact matches, Tidal, or both). This could be set to both as default, so, people that are used to this layout wouldn't notice any change, but if you want, you could change that setting to display just Tidal search for example.

Looking forward to this new version anyway.

Best regards,
Davor

 

[mikehd1959]

I'm trying to troubleshoot lack of gapless play on my system. Dark Side of the Moon is the album under test. The gaps really break the flow.

I have a MinimServer and BubbleUPnP server running on a Windows 10 PC, BubbleUPnP control point on my Android phone, and a Wiim Pro renderer. I've created an OpenHome version of my Wiim Pro in BUPnP server. I've hidden the other versions of my Wiim Pro in the BUPnP control point.

I think I'm supposed to enable gapless on the BubbleUPnP app by changing the settings for my device (renderer), but no gapless option is available.

I have Local and Cloud Library disabled, as well as Local Renderer.

I re-enabled the other two Wiim Pro versions (chromecast and ??) and see enable gapless is checked in the ?? version (one I'm not using).

I'm only using the OpenHome version to move the playlist management to the server. Otherwise, we get interrupted play if another house member opens BUPnP on their phone. So, it may be that we can't have both gapless and server side management of playlists?

 

[jim_pap]

BubbleUPnP 4.0 announcement


I've been working on BubbleUPnP 4.0.

It will refresh the UI with Material Design 3, including (optional) Material You support (on Android 12+). It's been a lot of work and there is still a lot to do as the app is huge (and old, 12 years and counting. First version was released on Android 2.3!). Converting the app settings to androidx.preference, fragments and tweak some prefs for MD3 took several days alone!

Here's a few work-in-progress screenshots until a beta is available later this month.

The screenshots show various combinations of material You in dark and light mode. There's also to the ability to combine a light theme with dark bars for a look close to the current Light + dark bars theme (last screenshot). Note that dynamic tinting of the Now Playing screen based on cover colors is not yet implemented (as in the current version) but this is planned.

I never knew that Google has things like this (Material) available for developers. Curious to see the differences on my tablet but it's already looking nice and modern.

 

[bubbleguuum]

I'm trying to troubleshoot lack of gapless play on my system. Dark Side of the Moon is the album under test. The gaps really break the flow.

I have a MinimServer and BubbleUPnP server running on a Windows 10 PC, BubbleUPnP control point on my Android phone, and a Wiim Pro renderer. I've created an OpenHome version of my Wiim Pro in BUPnP server. I've hidden the other versions of my Wiim Pro in the BUPnP control point.

I think I'm supposed to enable gapless on the BubbleUPnP app by changing the settings for my device (renderer), but no gapless option is available.

I have Local and Cloud Library disabled, as well as Local Renderer.

I re-enabled the other two Wiim Pro versions (chromecast and ??) and see enable gapless is checked in the ?? version (one I'm not using).

I'm only using the OpenHome version to move the playlist management to the server. Otherwise, we get interrupted play if another house member opens BUPnP on their phone. So, it may be that we can't have both gapless and server side management of playlists?

Gapless playback requires the renderer to support it (have the UPnP command for it). Most renderers do not.
If a renderer has the gapless UPnP command required, you will be able to enable 'Gapless playback' in BubbleUPnP Server's page for the renderer (or if not using BubbleUPnP Server, in Android BubbleUPnP in More > Gear icon > Renderer settings > (pick renderer) > Gapless control). And if that setting can be enabled, it is not a guarantee that gapless will work.

 

[simonMBUK]

I'm trying to troubleshoot lack of gapless play on my system. Dark Side of the Moon is the album under test. The gaps really break the flow.

Hi @mikehd1959 ,

Gapless playback absolutely does work with the WiiM but you need to make sure you're configuring the UPnP renderer and not the Chromecast renderer (because Chromecast isn't gapless) in BubbleUPnP Server as the WiiM Pro has both.
In BubbleUPnP Server the WiiM UPnP renderer is the one with the icon that looks like a set of headphones. You can also tell by the configuration options available to you; the UPnP renderer will only have the option:
Create an OpenHome renderer

Whereas the Chromecast renderer will also have:
Create a DLNA renderer

So, once you've chosen the correct renderer, enable 'Create an OpenHome renderer' then enable 'Gapless playback' and set 'Decode audio to PCM for' to 'Never use'.
If you had previously configured the Chromecast renderer make sure to disable 'Create an OpenHome renderer' in its configuration.

Back in the BubbleUPnP app on your phone you need to hide all the other WiiM Pro renderers that aren't suffixed with '(OpenHome)'. You won't have the option to enable 'Gapless control' in the app for the OpenHome renderer because you already configured it in BubbleUPnP Server.

 

[mikehd1959]

@bubbleguuum @simonMBUK : Thanks for the additional info. This morning I opened my BubbleUPnP server settings and found that the OpenHome only version of my Wiim Pro was not present.

Note that I had also created the OpenHome renderer in this one, which I didn't know any better because there wasn't one with only OpenHome available.

I restarted the BubbleUPnP server and the OpenHome only renderer was now available:

After I deselected OpenHome in the OpenHome/DLNA renderer (first screen shot above) gapless playback works fine with my Wiim Pro, as tested with DSOTM. However, I don't know why the appropriate renderer disappeared from my BubbleUPnP server.

Thanks for the assists, again. One mystery for me that I couldn't find info on, is what do the icons in front of each renderer indicate? Is the USB like device icon intended to communicate a DLNA/OpenHome device and the Headphones (I think) only OpenHome or is that supplied by the Wiim? I see that the Denon AVR above has the BubbleUPnP icon, maybe because the AVR doesn't provide any default icon (I checked and it is only an OpenHome device).

thanks again,

 

[simonMBUK]

Thanks for the additional info. This morning I opened my BubbleUPnP server settings and found that the OpenHome only version of my Wiim Pro was not present.

I've just got home and experienced the same thing.
The WiiM UPnP renderer wasn't visible in the Server but was in the app (the OpenHome proxy wasn't at this point), when I restarted the server the UPnP renderer appeared as did the OpenHome proxy in the app.
I only enabled Chromecast this morning to help @mikehd1959 and it's the first time I've seen this problem, I wonder if it's something to do with it being both a Chromeast and UPnP renderer? @mikehd1959 , is disabling the Chromecast functionality (it requires a factory reset) something you can test for a couple/few days?

After I deselected OpenHome in the OpenHome/DLNA renderer (first screen shot above) gapless playback works fine with my Wiim Pro, as tested with DSOTM.

This means that you were actually playing to the Chromecast and not the UPnP renderer.

Thanks for the assists, again. One mystery for me that I couldn't find info on, is what do the icons in front of each renderer indicate? Is the USB like device icon intended to communicate a DLNA/OpenHome device and the Headphones (I think) only OpenHome or is that supplied by the Wiim? I see that the Denon AVR above has the BubbleUPnP icon, maybe because the AVR doesn't provide any default icon (I checked and it is only an OpenHome device).

The icons are just there to highlight what the device is, not what its capabilties are.

The USB like device must be the original chromecast, and the WiiM icon is provided in its description.xml (in the BubbleUPnP app, select the vertical ellipsis next to the WiiM and choose Info, there you'll see a Desc. XML URL that has links to the icon). Maybe the Denon doesn't provide one so the default is the BubbleUPnP icon.

 

[mikehd1959]

@simonMBUK : Thanks for the confirmations and clarification. I can try disabling Chromecast on the Wiim Pro, but would like to wait a few days to check the stability. I'll monitor my BubbleUPnP server to see if the WiiM OpenHome renderer disappears again.

 

[mikehd1959]

I had another disappearance of the OpenHome only version of my WiiM Pro from my BubbleUPnP server. I left the page, came back to it and it was there.

 

[simonMBUK]

I had another disappearance of the OpenHome only version of my WiiM Pro from my BubbleUPnP server. I left the page, came back to it and it was there.

Had you left the page open in the background? When the WiiM UPnP renderer was missing from the page could you see the OpenHome renderer in the BubbleUPnP app?
After I saw your post I had a look and mine was there, and the WiiM had been on standby all night.

I can capture some logs if @bubbleguuum thinks it might be of some use, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was the WiiM at fault because I don't feel it's a particularly robust implementation e.g. If I want to use BubbleUPnP to proxy MinimServer and access that from the WiiM app, I need to enable the proxy whilst I have the "Home Music Share" open, otherwise it doesn't show!

Do you have an IGMP Proxy setting in your router? If you do it might be worth disabling that for a couple of days to see if that makes any difference.

 

[mikehd1959]

Had you left the page open in the background?

Yes

When the WiiM UPnP renderer was missing from the page could you see the OpenHome renderer in the BubbleUPnP app?

I didn't have a chance to check it. The OpenHome renderer reappeared simply by selecting a different tab then returning to the BubbleUPnP media renderers tab. I had been using the renderer not long before I noticed it was missing from the renderers tab.

Do you have an IGMP Proxy setting in your router? If you do it might be worth disabling that for a couple of days to see if that makes any difference.

Allow IGMP is currently enabled to accept input. You're suggesting to disable this setting? The rule on my router for this is

So it doesn't appear that my router has a firewall rule to enable/disable IGMP on the LAN. I can try disabling and see if it changes anything.

BTW, woke up this morning and the OpenHome renderer was still present in the renderers tab. Last use was probably 8pm last night.

 

[simonMBUK]

Allow IGMP is currently enabled to accept input. You're suggesting to disable this setting? The rule on my router for this is

View attachment 5889205

So it doesn't appear that my router has a firewall rule to enable/disable IGMP on the LAN. I can try disabling and see if it changes anything.

It won't be a firewall rule, if it's a configurable option it should be in the routers core configuration pages, called something like IGMP Proxy or IGMP Snooping.

I didn't have the option in my router but I did in my switch and I had to disable it as UPnP discovery was unreliable.

The WiiM UPnP and Chromecast renderer were both in BubbleUPnP Server this morning and the OpenHome proxy in the control point so its behaving itself over here.