[APP][8.0+] SD Maid 2/SE - System Cleaner

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SD Maid SE (aka. SD Maid 2) is the successor to SD Maid (SD Maid 1/ SD Maid Legacy).
A new app, optimized for modern Android versions, and ready for Google's future challenges 😌.

Description:

SD Maid SE is an open-source zero-bull**** system cleaner.
SD Maid deletes files and you get more free space. That's the deal!

SD Maid 1 and 2 share core features:
  • CorpseFinder: Find files belonging to uninstalled apps
  • SystemCleaner: Delete superfluos files from all over the device
  • AppCleaner: Delete expendable ("hidden caches") files from apps
  • AppControl: Manage installed applications
  • Scheduling operations
  • Protecting files with exclusions
Download links
SD Maid SE has a "Pro version".
The Google Play release requires :coffee: a payment, while the Github release asks 🙏 for a payment.
Be nice, support your devs ❤️.

Changelog
GitHub release notes are the official changelog.

Bugs / Requests
Please use the issue tracker for bug reports.
I'll also discuss issues else where but usually a lot of helpful information gets lost if it's not organised, so use the issue tracker if it's important :).
 

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Feedback and bug reports are very welcome. It's a beta release, please be gentle.
I promise it's not as rough as SD Maid 1's first releases though 😁.

If you encounter an issue, a video of it and a debug log would very useful.
You can go into Settings>Support and click "Debug log"
To stop the recording, find the related notification and click on done.

Things I'm looking for are:
  • All kinds of app crashes
  • Weird UI behavior
  • Bad results, either false positives that shouldn't be shown, or false negatives that SD Maid 1 finds, but SD Maid 2 doesn't
  • Of course any clutter that neither SD Maid detects
  • Specific instances of slow down. Not general "it is slower than SD Maid 1", but it something like "AppCleaner" takes super long if I don't exclude App XYZ"
 

Rokcy98

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Long time pro user of SD Maid, i love your work!
I think AppControl is the part of the app that needs the most work to get all the old features: filtering is not present, such as every possible action you can do in SD Maid when clicking on an app to manage
 
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Long time pro user of SD Maid, i love your work!
I think AppControl is the part of the app that needs the most work to get all the old features: filtering is not present, such as every possible action you can do in SD Maid when clicking on an app to manage

Filter and search will be there soon.
I'm open for a discussion on what features we need.
Currently it just has some shortcuts and enable/disable for apps.
Uninstall of normal apps could work, but doesn't work well without root? Uninstall for system apps with root is a can of worms... due to remounting etc.
Rootless mass uninstall via accessibility service maybe? Will have to check Google policies on that...
 

Thebear j koss

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So I have some questions about going pro. I have no issues with repurchasing new app or doing a subscription, but 1- is subscription monthly or yearly and what is the cost? 2. I'm guessing there won't be a 1 time lifetime (of new app) payment to go pro? I'm only trying to figure out what would be the best option for myself while not being wasteful but also supporting development. I mean 5.49 for 2 years is fine, but if there were an option for lets say 10$ for 5 years or lifetime of app(obviously no guarantees it will go on for 5 years) I would pay the 10$. Or I'm guessing you are doing the subscription/2 year payment because you are not comfortable making a longer commitment longer than 2 years of support? Just seeing if there could be another option so I don't have to remember I have to purchase again when the time comes.
 

Rokcy98

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Filter and search will be there soon.
I'm open for a discussion on what features we need.
Currently it just has some shortcuts and enable/disable for apps.
Uninstall of normal apps could work, but doesn't work well without root? Uninstall for system apps with root is a can of worms... due to remounting etc.
Rootless mass uninstall via accessibility service maybe? Will have to check Google policies on that...
I use it with root,
Things that are missing:
- uninstall/mass uninstall, at least for user apps
- freeze/mass freeze
- close/force close (mass close/force close)
- activity list and the ability to create shortcuts from them
- export apk
- clean data
I mean, sd maid has an app manager, sd maid 2 has an app list for now.
I don't know what's your intention, maybe you don't want to integrate a full app manager in SD maid 2, but in case you want, well, all the features of the old app are missing
 

Dark3n

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So I have some questions about going pro. I have no issues with repurchasing new app or doing a subscription, but 1- is subscription monthly or yearly and what is the cost? 2. I'm guessing there won't be a 1 time lifetime (of new app) payment to go pro? I'm only trying to figure out what would be the best option for myself while not being wasteful but also supporting development. I mean 5.49 for 2 years is fine, but if there were an option for lets say 10$ for 5 years or lifetime of app(obviously no guarantees it will go on for 5 years) I would pay the 10$.
I think you might have misunderstood the upgrade screen.
It's currently ~5€ for lifetime, or ~2€ per year.
Anything idea how I could improve the wording?

Or I'm guessing you are doing the subscription/2 year payment because you are not comfortable making a longer commitment longer than 2 years of support? Just seeing if there could be another option so I don't have to remember I have to purchase again when the time comes.
It's a bit of an experiment, I don't have a lot of experience with subscriptions.

In general I think that a subscription is a better model for development because it incentivizes development that keeps existing users happy as much as gaining new users.
With an IAP you are encouraged to "chase" new users, add new features that motivated new users to buy an app, not such much keeping existing users happy that already upgraded.
Also resource wise it's the more "sane" model for developers to live on, as it's constant income. The economics on apps, e.g. buy an app once, free updates forever are brutal.

Most users hate subscriptions and probably wouldn't switch to SD Maid 2 if it was subscription only, so I also have an IAP. While worse than a subscription for devs, it worked out well for SD Maid 1. Though this is also an extreme example. Early pro users got 12 years of updates for like 2€?3€? Was only feasible due to how popular SD Maid is and how lean I could do development.

I'm only trying to figure out what would be the best option for myself while not being wasteful but also supporting development.

Buy the one-time purchase on Google Play for the convenience and for any extra support sponsor development via GitHub: ;)

With the new Update the settinge Button dont work
The one on the dashboard in the bottom right right? I can't reproduce it. What ROM/device?

Anyone tried this on a Firestick or Cube yet? Does it work with Amazon Fire Devices?

I don't have these to test, so if you tried it out and find issues, let me know :coffee::giggle:
 

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I use it with root,
Things that are missing:
- uninstall/mass uninstall, at least for user apps
- freeze/mass freeze
- close/force close (mass close/force close)
- activity list and the ability to create shortcuts from them
- export apk
- clean data
I mean, sd maid has an app manager, sd maid 2 has an app list for now.
I don't know what's your intention, maybe you don't want to integrate a full app manager in SD maid 2, but in case you want, well, all the features of the old app are missing
I'm working on mass selection currently so that will come. I have created some feature tickets on GitHub to see which app manager functions have demand.


The Dashboard Button work fine Yesterday in Android 14 DP 2 and today I got the Update and I cannot go into the prefs.

Might be an Android 14 issue? I'm testing on Android 13.
 

Dark3n

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Will SD Maid 1 get further updates or is it time to change and pay again? But I have done it to support your work ;)

SD Maid 1 will get maintenance updates (security, small bugs), but no compatibility fixes if Google breaks stuff or general improvements.

The Dashboard Button work fine Yesterday in Android 14 DP 2 and today I got the Update and I cannot go into the prefs.
Couldn't reproduce it on an Android 14 emulator. :(

Can you force a debug log by creating this file:
/sdcard/Android/data/eu.darken.sdmse/files/force_debug_run
and sending it to me after reproducing it on the log?
 

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So I'm not understanding the 1 time purchase breaks even after 2 years. That is what is throwing me off. So if it's 2$ a year and the 1 time payment of 5$ for life of the app or it will be 5$ in 2 years?
It's 2$ per year or 5$ for lifetime.
Why is this so confusing? You are not the first person to be confused by this.
I just don't understand where the confusion is coming from, can you help me understand?

A product can both be "rented" and "bought". Buying something is usually more expensive than renting it. Let's say you can live in a house for 2$ per year, or you can buy the house for 5$. Then break-even point is after 2.5 years (5$/2$) the moment in-time at which it would have been financially more attractive to have bought the house.

A more visual example:

Person A and B meet in a cafe and of course start talking about the new SD Maid 2/SE.
Both agree that it's the best thing since sliced bread.
Person A buys the one-time purchase for ~5$, because they hate subscriptions.
Person B buys the subscription at ~2$ per year, because Person B isn't sure that they will keep using it.
Then life happens. After 3 years they both meet again on the street.
The first thing they talk about is of course how great SD Maid is.
Person A then asks Person B if they are still using Android and using SD Maid via subscription.
Person B admits that they are still using SD Maid and paying for the subscription.
Then Person A laughs at Person B, because if they bought the one-time purchase 3 years ago, they would have saved money by now. But for Person B it wasn't about paying less, they just wanted to provide on-going support to the developer and didn't mind the subscription.
Then they part ways and never see each other again, because friends don't laugh at friends for supporting developers via subscription. :coffee:

Thanks for the refreshed release! Purchased the Pro to support the development.

A suggestion if I may - AppCleaner to run in the background instead of foreground, just like the old SD Maid.
Can you elaborate? Do you mean the AppCleaner deletion using the accessibility service? That also never worked in the background in SD Maid 1.
 

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    SD Maid SE (aka. SD Maid 2) is the successor to SD Maid (SD Maid 1/ SD Maid Legacy).
    A new app, optimized for modern Android versions, and ready for Google's future challenges 😌.

    Description:

    SD Maid SE is an open-source zero-bull**** system cleaner.
    SD Maid deletes files and you get more free space. That's the deal!

    SD Maid 1 and 2 share core features:
    • CorpseFinder: Find files belonging to uninstalled apps
    • SystemCleaner: Delete superfluos files from all over the device
    • AppCleaner: Delete expendable ("hidden caches") files from apps
    • AppControl: Manage installed applications
    • Scheduling operations
    • Protecting files with exclusions
    Download links
    SD Maid SE has a "Pro version".
    The Google Play release requires :coffee: a payment, while the Github release asks 🙏 for a payment.
    Be nice, support your devs ❤️.

    Changelog
    GitHub release notes are the official changelog.

    Bugs / Requests
    Please use the issue tracker for bug reports.
    I'll also discuss issues else where but usually a lot of helpful information gets lost if it's not organised, so use the issue tracker if it's important :).
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    Feedback and bug reports are very welcome. It's a beta release, please be gentle.
    I promise it's not as rough as SD Maid 1's first releases though 😁.

    If you encounter an issue, a video of it and a debug log would very useful.
    You can go into Settings>Support and click "Debug log"
    To stop the recording, find the related notification and click on done.

    Things I'm looking for are:
    • All kinds of app crashes
    • Weird UI behavior
    • Bad results, either false positives that shouldn't be shown, or false negatives that SD Maid 1 finds, but SD Maid 2 doesn't
    • Of course any clutter that neither SD Maid detects
    • Specific instances of slow down. Not general "it is slower than SD Maid 1", but it something like "AppCleaner" takes super long if I don't exclude App XYZ"
    3
    Very keen for this! Long time Pro user of SD Maid 1 :)
    2
    I use it with root,
    Things that are missing:
    - uninstall/mass uninstall, at least for user apps
    - freeze/mass freeze
    - close/force close (mass close/force close)
    - activity list and the ability to create shortcuts from them
    - export apk
    - clean data
    I mean, sd maid has an app manager, sd maid 2 has an app list for now.
    I don't know what's your intention, maybe you don't want to integrate a full app manager in SD maid 2, but in case you want, well, all the features of the old app are missing
    I'm working on mass selection currently so that will come. I have created some feature tickets on GitHub to see which app manager functions have demand.


    The Dashboard Button work fine Yesterday in Android 14 DP 2 and today I got the Update and I cannot go into the prefs.

    Might be an Android 14 issue? I'm testing on Android 13.
    2
    So I have some questions about going pro. I have no issues with repurchasing new app or doing a subscription, but 1- is subscription monthly or yearly and what is the cost? 2. I'm guessing there won't be a 1 time lifetime (of new app) payment to go pro? I'm only trying to figure out what would be the best option for myself while not being wasteful but also supporting development. I mean 5.49 for 2 years is fine, but if there were an option for lets say 10$ for 5 years or lifetime of app(obviously no guarantees it will go on for 5 years) I would pay the 10$.
    I think you might have misunderstood the upgrade screen.
    It's currently ~5€ for lifetime, or ~2€ per year.
    Anything idea how I could improve the wording?

    Or I'm guessing you are doing the subscription/2 year payment because you are not comfortable making a longer commitment longer than 2 years of support? Just seeing if there could be another option so I don't have to remember I have to purchase again when the time comes.
    It's a bit of an experiment, I don't have a lot of experience with subscriptions.

    In general I think that a subscription is a better model for development because it incentivizes development that keeps existing users happy as much as gaining new users.
    With an IAP you are encouraged to "chase" new users, add new features that motivated new users to buy an app, not such much keeping existing users happy that already upgraded.
    Also resource wise it's the more "sane" model for developers to live on, as it's constant income. The economics on apps, e.g. buy an app once, free updates forever are brutal.

    Most users hate subscriptions and probably wouldn't switch to SD Maid 2 if it was subscription only, so I also have an IAP. While worse than a subscription for devs, it worked out well for SD Maid 1. Though this is also an extreme example. Early pro users got 12 years of updates for like 2€?3€? Was only feasible due to how popular SD Maid is and how lean I could do development.

    I'm only trying to figure out what would be the best option for myself while not being wasteful but also supporting development.

    Buy the one-time purchase on Google Play for the convenience and for any extra support sponsor development via GitHub: ;)

    With the new Update the settinge Button dont work
    The one on the dashboard in the bottom right right? I can't reproduce it. What ROM/device?

    Anyone tried this on a Firestick or Cube yet? Does it work with Amazon Fire Devices?

    I don't have these to test, so if you tried it out and find issues, let me know :coffee::giggle: