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[app] (BETA!!!) Otter Browser for Windows on ARM32

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hamed7ir

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Hi finally i teseted otter on 8.1rt , it could open some sites on 8.1 that ie couldnt but ,unfortunately also official otter cant open tradingview , hope this browser update and run multimedia , so thanks for your great work
 
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frylockk19

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Hi finally i teseted otter on 8.1rt , it could open some sites on 8.1 that ie couldnt , hope it will be better and someday can handle tradingview.
Nice to hear, I plan to update it later today, so maybe it'll work now. I've been experimenting and now WebGL and WebKit2 works. Much more stable and loads sites a lot faster. Still no YT/JIT though.
 
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UPDATE: permalink is back up, thank you all for understanding and being patient while it was down. I plan to get a build out ASAP, trying some new stuff with Qt to attempt to make things more stable and get closer to JIT.
Hi frylockk19,

I have seen that Vivaldi Browser is available for ARM32 for Raspberry pi (if you check on the comments below the article, there is also an explanation why they use ARM32 and not ARM64, because of widevine support: "There is also a 64 but we prefer people to use the 32 because it is possible to get Widevine and hence the likes of Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime Video working. That cannot be done with 64 as there is no source for 64bit arm widevine."): https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-for-raspberry-pi/
Vivaldi's source code is also available here: https://vivaldi.com/source/
Do you think it should be possible to port the Linux ARM32 version to Windows RT?
It is just an idea... :)

Thanks for your work!
 

frylockk19

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Hi frylockk19,

I have seen that Vivaldi Browser is available for ARM32 for Raspberry pi (if you check on the comments below the article, there is also an explanation why they use ARM32 and not ARM64, because of widevine support: "There is also a 64 but we prefer people to use the 32 because it is possible to get Widevine and hence the likes of Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime Video working. That cannot be done with 64 as there is no source for 64bit arm widevine."): https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-for-raspberry-pi/
Vivaldi's source code is also available here: https://vivaldi.com/source/
Do you think it should be possible to port the Linux ARM32 version to Windows RT?
It is just an idea... :)

Thanks for your work!
Maybe with a lot of work. If it was possible to port Chromium on ARM32 from Linux to Windows, things would be a lot better 😂. I've been doing what I can to attempt to port Qt6WebEngine. Qt6 ports fine, some newer versions need worled on, etc. Iirc version WebEngine uses isn't working YET. DRM stuff is very unlikely to happen if it's a library as there is no source available to Widevine (which makes sense, it's Google and it's protected content). QtWebEngine is the target ATM. That or WebKitGTK. Both are being worked on as they can be worked on. Getting a laptop Wednesday, may be able to do more with it. I'll definitely keep updated, but at my age and with my knowledge, Chromium may not be possible without better/more experienced porters.
 

frylockk19

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Maybe with a lot of work. If it was possible to port Chromium on ARM32 from Linux to Windows, things would be a lot better 😂. I've been doing what I can to attempt to port Qt6WebEngine. Qt6 ports fine, some newer versions need worled on, etc. Iirc version WebEngine uses isn't working YET. DRM stuff is very unlikely to happen if it's a library as there is no source available to Widevine (which makes sense, it's Google and it's protected content). QtWebEngine is the target ATM. That or WebKitGTK. Both are being worked on as they can be worked on. Getting a laptop Wednesday, may be able to do more with it. I'll definitely keep updated, but at my age and with my knowledge, Chromium may not be possible without better/more experienced porters.
Oh yeah. Also slow internet 😂😂😂

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Sr. Lumia

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Hello! I saw your post and I want to ask if this app could be led to Windows Phone 10 because the base is Windows 8.1. I'm user of these phones. Tnks
 
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rain_vich

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Errrr... I can not really say I know. Sorry 😅. As long as you can run PE32 ARM EXEs and have a desktop environment it should(?) run. I don't know anything about the Windows Phone OS side of things.
I tried Facebook and YouTube on browser, both stopped while loading.
Windows 8.1
Windows 10 15035
Hope to find an update for these major sites.
 
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frylockk19

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I tried Facebook and YouTube on browser, both stopped while loading.
Windows 8.1
Windows 10 15035
Hope to find an update for these major sites.
Yeah, neither work. YouTube is something to do with a media crash, Facebook I dunno. I don't use Facebook. I'll look into them but Facebook will likely not be fixed by me or it will take longer as I do not like or use it myself. Same deal with Instagram, Twitter, etc.
 

rain_vich

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Yeah, neither work. YouTube is something to do with a media crash, Facebook I dunno. I don't use Facebook. I'll look into them but Facebook will likely not be fixed by me or it will take longer as I do not like or use it myself. Same deal with Instagram, Twitter, etc.
Just thinking...
Maybe the Palemoon browser is a better solution.. I don't know VC, but current Palemoon requires VC 2015 and older builds only 2013.
2015 is compatible with win10 rt
 
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    Errrr... I can not really say I know. Sorry 😅. As long as you can run PE32 ARM EXEs and have a desktop environment it should(?) run. I don't know anything about the Windows Phone OS side of things.
    I tried Facebook and YouTube on browser, both stopped while loading.
    Windows 8.1
    Windows 10 15035
    Hope to find an update for these major sites.
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    Yeah, neither work. YouTube is something to do with a media crash, Facebook I dunno. I don't use Facebook. I'll look into them but Facebook will likely not be fixed by me or it will take longer as I do not like or use it myself. Same deal with Instagram, Twitter, etc.
    Just thinking...
    Maybe the Palemoon browser is a better solution.. I don't know VC, but current Palemoon requires VC 2015 and older builds only 2013.
    2015 is compatible with win10 rt
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    Running a Surface RT on Windows RT 8.1 Update 3, just signed all the files in the Otter Browser folder (latest release) after copying the extra DLL files you linked. Now receiving the following error preventing the browser from starting up:

    "The procedure entry point atan2 could not be located in the dynamic link library"

    Thoughts?
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    What DLL did it say?
    Sorry, meant to include that. DLL is “Qt5WebKit.dll”.

    Not sure if there any other errors as the program crashes immediately after closing the dialogue box.
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    Weird. Try redownloading maybe? I downloaded it again earlier myself for testing and it worked perfectly fine (on RT10 that is..). Are you using WinRAR or 7-zip to extract?
    Tried again with a fresh download, fresh signing process. Same result. Using 7-Zip to extract.
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    Hey all, it's probably been a while since I posted, but as time has went on, I've been working on Otter Browser ports.

    It isn't stable, which is why it says BETA! Please say if something isn't working, I'll look at it when I can.

    What can it do so far?
    Some sites are more faster than Edge

    What can it not do?
    Large JavaScript sites/files. Multimedia was fixed(-ish) (some formats do not work, will look into it soon, could just be a Qt thing)!

    How stable exactly is "not stable"?
    Well, it crashes at random. If you go to a site with too much JavaScript it will crash, certain sites just don't work, etc.

    Will this all be fixed!
    Of course! I'm working on it as much as I can!

    If you want to test it out, let me know how it works, etc, then that would be gladly appreciated, I'm trying to do what I can for the peeps only with an ARM32 device.

    Tested sites: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lQLsQoMKNPalPbF7SQLxCgpOp80a82vM9aeRV6xOd0/edit?usp=sharing

    Download link(s):

    Latest (permalink)
    https://download.pahaze.net/ARM/OtterBrowser/latest

    Archive of versions
    https://download.pahaze.net/ARM/OtterBrowser

    10/10/2021 build - EARLY WebKit2/WebGL/OpenGL build - NO YouTube/JIT still
    7z - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qksSsGFAY2-7qcJe_ezG0R4YZRSmqRzJ/view?usp=sharing
    ZIP - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1diTYLr0Cwm5L0944rjJfSedjUqTN97HT/view?usp=sharing

    7/29/2021 build - EARLY MULTIMEDIA BUILD - NO YouTube YET
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TXKqeMRkWY7Y_ejDTXoj-Qs3Fma43amG/view

    4/22/2021 build
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UvpJJuombejj_hh15sIyHA-_d2Y_flQZ/view?usp=sharing

    How do I install it!!!
    Extract the folder from the 7zip file ANYWHERE. It doesn't matter where it is!
    C:\Program Files; your desktop; you name it, it'll work just fine there. I do plan on making an installer, but for the time being, a folder on your desktop or in your documents or something isn't going to hurt.

    Have fun out there!
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    UPDATE: Still no permalink but released a new build. I know it says "TEST BUILD", that was for me and i really just forgot to change it. Still works the same, hopefully you all are able to find something good out of it. Been working on it for a while now. I know releases are slow, but I do what I can and try to get these out as soon as possible.
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    Do you have the source code on github or similar? Would be great if someone wants to help you with development... Great work you've done so far! ;)
    I don't yet because it requires so many edits that I don't have them put together yet. I will get there, but I'm not there just yet. Also, thanks
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    UPDATE: permalink is back up, thank you all for understanding and being patient while it was down. I plan to get a build out ASAP, trying some new stuff with Qt to attempt to make things more stable and get closer to JIT.
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    thanks. my experience is that youtube videos start but then the app closes. chess.com I can try to login but then it says it's checking the browser and returns to the login. brainhq.com I can login fine; when I try an exercise it says I need adobe flash. tennis.com and google news work briefly.

    this in some ways is a big step forward from ie 11, which will not even engage in logging in, and can't open tennis.com at all.