[APP][FIRETV][NOROOT] Launcher Manager (Change Launcher without Root)

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Nathaniel9

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It can take a while. But that's how it worked with the Fire TV Stick 4K back then. I also have the 4K Stick Max. You just have to be patient.
 

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pm disable-user 'package-name'


My problem is with toshiba firetv with cubes And FS it works. On fire tv says those 2 packages OTA are protected. Since its the tv itself not sure if its even a good idea to mess with it :)




Yes i did manually on my fire cubes, btw its not in debloat v7 is diego saying he can add it if people needs it?
 
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hi. on fireos 5.2.8.4. i cant disable the stock launcher.
ive installed leanback, launcher mananger and launchx but when i press home the stock launcher is displayed.
any idas?
 

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My problem is with toshiba firetv with cubes. And FS it works. On fire tv says those 2 packages OTA are protected. Since its the tv itself not sure if its even a good idea to mess with it :)


Yes i did manually on my fire cubes, btw its not in debloat v7 is diego saying he can add it if people needs it?
Hello, I put it in for my use, I do not like to get into the work of others without their permision @SweenWolf , if you ask, I will enter it, it is to put a few lines without more, or if you give me your permission I will upload it modified.

com.amazon.shoptv.firetv.client

com.amazon.cloud9

com.imdb.livingroom.firetv "and" com.amazon.imdb.tv.android.app
------ THI IS IMDB in 4k MAX-------

Greetings.
 
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SweenWolf

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@SweenWolf can you add :
- a tool to verify if exist an update and install them inside the same app?
- write the version installed into launcher manager "footer"?
i added update function into lm way back but then i removed it, someone was spectical that i was sending something on the internet.
Added version info into lm 1.1.5 (added into main screen but thinking of puting in end of the list on the right)
It can only be fixed with Amazon system update, if they decide to fix it.
My problem is with toshiba firetv with cubes. And FS it works. On fire tv says those 2 packages OTA are protected. Since its the tv itself not sure if its even a good idea to mess with it :)
i have no idea it there are other apps present for OTA on your TV. may have to look into system image for that.
hi. on fireos 5.2.8.4. i cant disable the stock launcher.
ive installed leanback, launcher mananger and launchx but when i press home the stock launcher is displayed.
any idas?
FireOS 5 has removed some functions which causes LM to not work. I was thinking of adding another method to the LM for that (without 5 second delay, i will work on it when I'm free. No need to disable anything also, But i think amazon will patch that also. but that may work on FireOS 5,6,7)

Hello, I put it in for my use, I do not like to get into the work of others without their permision @SweenWolf , if you ask, I will enter it, it is to put a few lines without more, or if you give me your permission I will upload it modified.
Greetings.
I have made some changes to debloat toolbox, Now shows icons as well as names of apps, thinking of listing all apps for advanced users, and i'm going to merge Debloat Toolbox of FireOS 6 and 7.
 
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dieg00

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I hope I'm wrong! , but I don't think Amazon has much interest in fixing the launch of the launcher.
I sent this message to the forum and feedback emails.
If not many people complain, I don't think they will pay any attention, but my opinion is good about it.
TRANSLATION:
Launcher Fire TV Stick 4K Max KFTV
Hello everyone, the first thing to say is that the MAX works fine, but there are things that I don't like! . In version 7.2.5.5 if you change the KFTV launcher for any other it takes 2 minutes to start (something that is non-smokable).
I do not like the Amazon KFTV launcher at all, it is full of advertising everywhere, it seems chaotic and very impractical, it seems essential to be able to use another launcher !.
I do not understand very well why Amazon does this, many of us do not like its launcher and that less than being able to use in android = FIREOS the launcher that we want without delays of 2 minutes when starting.
The User is the one who has paid for the device and uses it and it is not asking too much in 4k with FIREOS 6 (some time ago) does not happen since I have tried it.
Greetings and I hope they fix this soon as it is very unpleasant.
Greetings and thank you.
Fire TV Stick 4K Max
Comentario1.png
 
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Finnzz

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Lots of updates on the OP, much appreciated! :)

Launcher Manager 1.1.5
Update Blocker 1.3
Debloat Toolbox (FireOS6 & OS7)

@SweenWolf It would be helpful if you added a release date for LM in the changelog on the OP. I think seeing the dates make updates easier to spot.

@dieg00 I admire your optimism :D. The ads on the Amazon Launcher help subsidize the cost of the Fire Sticks, I think they sell them at a loss like the Echos. It's better if the FireTV team at Amazon doesn't think about Launcher Manager, any changes they make will not be in it's favor.
 
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@dieg00 I admire your optimism :D. The ads on the Amazon Launcher help subsidize the cost of the Fire Sticks, I think they sell them at a loss like the Echos. It's better if the FireTV team at Amazon doesn't think about Launcher Manager, any changes they make will not be in it's favor.
Well, it also helps to pay for all the data that they subtract from the products of the Amazon line and I am not so clear that they sell at a loss, the Chinese tvboxes do not lose money they give you more hardware but less certifications that are not free, so I do not have Of course they lose money counting that fire sticks are manufactured by TCL.and most importantly, you pay for them.
My purpose for this new year is to be more optimistic (and naive) :D.
Greetings
 

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In case someone helps you with OnBootAppStarter you can make another launcher start, in LM the amazon launcher has to be as default, and in OnBootAppStarter select the launcher.
That is if you have to get used to not using the HOME button, and using the BACK button.
It is not the best solution but better than waiting 2 minutes.
 

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Well, it also helps to pay for all the data that they subtract from the products of the Amazon line and I am not so clear that they sell at a loss, the Chinese tvboxes do not lose money they give you more hardware but less certifications that are not free, so I do not have Of course they lose money counting that fire sticks are manufactured by TCL.and most importantly, you pay for them.
My purpose for this new year is to be more optimistic (and naive) :D.
Greetings
I can't say for certain, but considering this article about Amazon Echos, I strongly suspect the same is true about Fire Sticks:

Basically Amazon says they sell Echos below cost when they are on sale, which is every couple weeks lol. $35 for a 4k Max seems a
bit cheap for those specs. The Lite Fire Stick goes on sale for $18 sometimes. This is in the US though. They cost a lot more in countries with high import taxes.
 
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dieg00

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I can't say for certain, but considering this article about Amazon Echos, I strongly suspect the same is true about Fire Sticks:

Basically Amazon says they sell Echos below cost when they are on sale, which is every couple weeks lol. $35 for a 4k Max seems a
bit cheap for those specs. The Lite Fire Stick goes on sale for $18 sometimes. This is in the US though. They cost a lot more in countries with high import taxes.
Have you ever heard a CEO of any company who with his statements did not make or try to make a publicity campaign that was not beneficial for his company?
That's the job of a CEO.

The only way to know the real price is to take the TCL sheet and count the quantity that TCL manufactures, which will be an outrage is not the same as manufacturing 1,000 to 1,000,000 an hour of the final cost of the product.
The rest is speculation.
In my country I bought it for 38 euros for that price it is fine, for 64 euros the normal price is very expensive for what it offers.
Greetings.
 

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Have you ever heard a CEO of any company who with his statements did not make or try to make a publicity campaign that was not beneficial for his company?
That's the job of a CEO.


He was just responding to Jeff Bezos. Bezos went to Captial Hill and was asked by Rep. Jamie Raskin whether Amazon priced the Echo speaker below cost. "Not its list price, but it's often on promotion," Bezos responded, adding: "And sometimes when it's on promotion, it may be below cost, yes."

Other Amazon information indicates that in 2018, Echos were being sold at a lose of $5 per device, and that by 2028 they hope to sell Echos at a profit of $2 a device.

Amazon does this so that they can dominate the smart home speaker market. It's similarly speculated that Amazon is selling Sticks extremely cheap (likely below cost) to chip away at Roku's share of the streaming device market. And they have made significant gains on Roku in recent years.

Advertising and data collection is Amazon's real business, this is why the Amazon launcher looks like it does.
 
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He was just responding to Jeff Bezos. Bezos went to Captial Hill and was asked by Rep. Jamie Raskin whether Amazon priced the Echo speaker below cost. "Not its list price, but it's often on promotion," Bezos responded, adding: "And sometimes when it's on promotion, it may be below cost, yes."
We do not think the same, the business is the product and the sub-business is the collection of data and advertising.
I return to the same thing, the only thing that matters is the price at which TCL manufactures the MAX unit for Amazon, the rest is insignificant, whoever says it says it, (it is the one I have and the product that I can think of, so is and how it works).
Articles, interviews etc are advertising campaigns themselves.
No company is ever going to tell you the whole truth. As is logical and normal.

The question is that for 38 E I see it well, as long as they do not get to touch their noses with something as basic for Android as changing a launcher (fireos is Android dismembered), and in this I think we all had to be able to put the launcher that we would like as we do with any Android.

Greetings.
 

Finnzz

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Articles, interviews etc are advertising campaigns themselves.
No company is ever going to tell you the whole truth. As is logical and normal.
That wasnt advertising lol. Jeff Bezos was testifying under oath in front of Congress. It would be like lying in a court room. Jeff said Amazon sells Echos below cost. Below cost means, for less than what Amazon spends to make the device. For years Amazon has been losing money on the sales of Echo devices themselves.

I agree that I don't have any statements from Bezos under oath about Fire Sticks. But this sort of business practice is quite common in Silicon Valley generally, and frequently talked about.
 

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That wasnt advertising lol. Jeff Bezos was testifying under oath in front of Congress. It would be like lying in a court room. Jeff said Amazon sells Echos below cost. Below cost means, for less than what Amazon spends to make the device. For years Amazon has been losing money on the sales of Echo devices themselves.

I agree that I don't have any statements from Bezos under oath about Fire Sticks. But this sort of business practice is quite common in Silicon Valley generally, and frequently talked about.
Jeff Bezos is the only one who always tells the truth under oath, he will say what he is interested in saying like everyone else, Mark Zuckerberg, etc, etc.
We are not going to convince either of the two .
I settle the issue here and everyone who thinks as he wants, as he has to be.
Greetings and a pleasure to talk @Finnzz.
 
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Please buy fire stick 4 HD, install launcher wolf and can't see widgets. Pick widget on click there is no widget to select. Is it possible to fix this?
 

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    LAUNCHER MANAGER (FOS 6+)
    STEPS TO ENABLE CUSTOM LAUNCHER:
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    (Latest: 1.1.6)
    2. Install a Custom Launcher and then open Launcher Manager.
    3. To Enable Custom Launcher, Click on "Launcher Options" and select "Enable Custom Launcher".
    If you get "CONNECTION FAILED" then see INFO section.
    4. Press [Home] to open your custom launcher.
    If your Current Launcher says "Launcher Manager", see INFO section.

    STEPS TO GO STOCK:
    Click on "Disable Custom Launcher", press Home.
    INFO:
    • If you get "CONNECTION FAILED", click on "OPEN ADB SETTINGS" and enable "ADB DEBUGGING" and Press BACK Button. If you still get this error Restart your Device (Long Press SELECT + PLAY/PAUSE Button)and disconnect from PC if Connected.
    • If your Current Launcher says "Launcher Manager", it means you don't have a custom launcher Installed, just install the launcher and you'll be good to go, no need to enable stock.
    • You can only open some of the Settings using Launcher Manager, to Access All the Settings then you have to Disable Custom Launcher.
    LAUNCHER MANAGER (1.1.5):
    _______________________________________
    Short Link for Downloader
    Launcher Manager 1.1.6 (FOS 6 & 7)
    https://bit.ly/SWLMF116

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    Changelog:
    1.1.6 (02-Mar-22)

    • Added Some more Translation
    • Added System apps to LMU Handler
    • Added Password protection for LM
    • Fixed app conflict issue
    • Fixed icon on Fireos 7
    • Added option to execute saved adb shell commands
    • Integrated Update Blocker in LM (Doesn't work with latest release of FireOS)
    1.1.5 (03-Jan-22)
    • Added German and Spanish Translation
    • Some Bug Fixes
    • Some minor changes
    1.1.4
    • Ability to change Screensaver
    • Ability to change System Language (on Request)
    • Added / Changed some Icons
    • Some minor changes
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    • Re-added option for Selecting any app as launcher (LM Handler), can be accessed within Launcher Options.
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    Changelog:
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    Short Link for Downloader

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    Screenrecord:
    Launcher Manager Ultimate







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    custom launcher for Fire OS 6.2.8.7,

    No Root Required​

    install wolf or other custom launcher
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    Check for Grey Icon and incorrect translations (used Google Translate for some missing strings)