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I have noticed that no matter what app it is , big in size like 500 mb + or small in size 5 mb , it takes multiple seconds to get installed.

It gets downloaded immediately and then it gets stuck in installing for about 7-8 seconds .

Did not used to happen on my iphone.
Did not see this thing in any android as well .

What are your views?
I've noticed this too, app install times are longer On my current Samsung than on my wife's 3 year old OnePlus 6. No question installation as well as updates are slower on my S21U.

This is obviously not a processor related problem alone, as the 2100 is obviously more capable than the SD845 found on the OP6. There are ample metrics to prove that.

So it boils down to software. I'm assuming it has something to do with OneUI and setting up the app to work with the UI, especially with all the scaling, split screen, app management etc that OneUI overlays on the underlying Android base. But this is only a guess, and I'm not bothered by it enough to go researching into it.

My final take on it: I don't spend enough time on the app installation screen (watching apps install and update), for these few seconds to bother me or impact my experience with the phone. In fact, after initial setup, there are very few new apps that I install on a daily basis for these extra seconds to add up and bother me. And updates occur in the background automatically when on Wi-Fi, so I'm not even aware of that.

If I were to sit and put two different phones side by side and compare app installation, I might be able to establish a difference. But will it change the way I use my phone? I don't think so.
 

tobias14

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Well, I experience longer install times only since I activated device protection\auto scan for malware
Before this it was very fast, no matter which app, no matter if fresh install or update..
Exynos btw
 
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Well, I experience longer install times only since I activated device protection\auto scan for malware
Before this it was very fast, no matter which app, no matter if fresh install or update..
Exynos btw
I have that turned off from day 1, but install times are still longer than on OnePlus. Maybe they get even slower with the device protection turned on, but I won't try it coz I don't think device protection adds any additional value (while draining resources)
 
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lywyn

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I was wrong about Exynos being the problem. Seems like sd888 version of s21U has the same "issue", so it's a Samsung software problem in general. I compared installation speeds of Exynos 2100 vs sd888 and the Snapdragon is faster, but on a different phone, not on Samsung. I don't have acces to a sd888 Samsung phone. My bad.
It is not a Samsung "issue" it is the malware security scanner which you can turn off in Device Care under Automation.
 

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Device care -> (three dots top right) -> Automation -> Auto scan for malware
That setting that you talking about, only appears if you turn on device protection. That mcAfee garbage from my screenshot. They are related. Mine is turned off so that setting isn't there.
 

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lywyn

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That setting that you talking about, only appears if you turn on device protection. That mcAfee garbage from my screenshot. They are related. Mine is turned off so that setting isn't there.
Then you must be right when you said "Ok, then all my Samsung phones must be defect, including my s21ultra.".

I just installed the Samsung Internet browser in 2 seconds with the malware check off and 16 seconds when on. If you're getting 16 seconds with the scanner off then I'd try factory resetting your phone.
 

aj7400

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XDA...now where first world problems seem to have overtaken the forums.

Unless you are in a warzone or the apocalypse is literally on your doorstep...does a few seconds really matter. Agreed it takes a few seconds longer than some phones I've had....
Yes i have had a situation where i had to download an app immediately and use it .
But my phone took an eternity to install that app, and i missed the purpose of installing the app
 
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    XDA...now where first world problems seem to have overtaken the forums.

    Unless you are in a warzone or the apocalypse is literally on your doorstep...does a few seconds really matter. Agreed it takes a few seconds longer than some phones I've had....
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    Side by side with my Huawei p30 pro, I updated Samsung browser. It took 5 seconds on Huawei and 12 seconds on my s21 ultra. I uninstalled the update and reinstall. The second time, Huawei still took 5 seconds, but the 21ultra went up to 15 seconds. The 3rd time, 16 seconds for Samsung, still 5 for Huawei.

    Huawei p30 pro has a 7nm SoC that was launched in 2018 vs a 5nm 2021 SoC on Samsung. What a shame for Samsung.

    This the only problem I have with Exynos phones. Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process.
    The Google Play services (under GMS) is responsible for installation, not Samsung. And you just said it was not the type of CPU but software with this statement "Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process". Also, you are comparing an android version 10 phone to 11, the new Google Play services now support app bundles, delivery optimisation, instant play and various other changes to the installation process.

    And you do not even know if the phone is Exynos and you are already blaming it. Look an issue, must be Exynos! Did you compare an Exynos vs Snapdragon S21? No you compared apples to oranges and got Exynos is the problem.

    Do want to know the real reason? The malware scanning device care (under automation) slows it down, if you turn this off it's a lot faster.

    You anti-Exynos people are like anti-vaxxers, "Did someone say Exynos?! Did you know that it is the number one cause of climate change! It is also responsible for the new delta strain of Covid!!!!".
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    I was wrong about Exynos being the problem. Seems like sd888 version of s21U has the same "issue", so it's a Samsung software problem in general. I compared installation speeds of Exynos 2100 vs sd888 and the Snapdragon is faster, but on a different phone, not on Samsung. I don't have acces to a sd888 Samsung phone. My bad.
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    I have noticed that no matter what app it is , big in size like 500 mb + or small in size 5 mb , it takes multiple seconds to get installed.

    It gets downloaded immediately and then it gets stuck in installing for about 7-8 seconds .

    Did not used to happen on my iphone.
    Did not see this thing in any android as well .

    What are your views?
    I've noticed this too, app install times are longer On my current Samsung than on my wife's 3 year old OnePlus 6. No question installation as well as updates are slower on my S21U.

    This is obviously not a processor related problem alone, as the 2100 is obviously more capable than the SD845 found on the OP6. There are ample metrics to prove that.

    So it boils down to software. I'm assuming it has something to do with OneUI and setting up the app to work with the UI, especially with all the scaling, split screen, app management etc that OneUI overlays on the underlying Android base. But this is only a guess, and I'm not bothered by it enough to go researching into it.

    My final take on it: I don't spend enough time on the app installation screen (watching apps install and update), for these few seconds to bother me or impact my experience with the phone. In fact, after initial setup, there are very few new apps that I install on a daily basis for these extra seconds to add up and bother me. And updates occur in the background automatically when on Wi-Fi, so I'm not even aware of that.

    If I were to sit and put two different phones side by side and compare app installation, I might be able to establish a difference. But will it change the way I use my phone? I don't think so.
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    I have seen androids quickly installing and uninstalling apps.
    Samsung s21 ultra however takes atleast double the time and resources.

    I am not much concerned about the time but resources.

    Everytime i install or uninstall an app the whole device lags/slows down for like 2-3 seconds .
    I have cleared the data of device protection to bring it to default setting ( turned off ). Now i am not sure whether the malware scanner is turned off or on by default.
    But the installation speed is still the same