[App] Quill - handwritten notes

d10221

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ICS Fixed it!

Amazing app, I'm using it on an ICONIA A500, and it works great. and its Open Source!, brilliant.

The only thing it doesn't do or I didn't find how to, is to quit the application.
Back button takes me from the drawing board to thumbnails and back. only way to exit seems to be to hiting Home.
I'm currently using using v8 from google code.

I connected a Manhattan graphics tablet the usb host, active digitizer (detected as WALTOP, and probably using the wacom driver from the Kernel, just guessing the last one),
It wasn't working until I tweaked the idc configuration. now its working also pressure sensitive! , its a killer combo! to sketch or take notes.
and also way cheaper than 10 inch android tablet with an inbuilt digitizer.

With Android HC 3.2 on diff kernels and Roms the problem is ...
There isn't a a cursor or pointer when the Digitizer is working as a touchScreen ,
and if working as a pointer device you do have a cursor/pointer (like a mouse or Spots)
but...it works in relative not absolute MODE.and looses the pressure sensitive operation as well
Also when working as a pointer, you need to double tap to start writing, it doesn't feel natural, you have to write a character at a time (full stroke and release tapping again).

This has nothing to do with the app it sel, is a Honey Comb issue, not having defacto Stylus support (TouchScreen,TouchPad,Pointer, thats it)


With Android 4.0 ICS it just works!,
It Needs to be setup as a pointer but you do have a cursor, pointer, its absolute positioned and pressure sensitive. Voila!
 
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twospirits

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I finally got my Thinkpad tablet this week and started to work with the default notes app on it. Its good but that palm rejection that doesn't work really was disappointing. I then remembered about this app and bought it. OMG what an app. very well done and the suggested updates just keep on coming. Whats even more amazing is that it is the only app from the developer on the market. I would have thought he would have had numerous other apps. For a first time app its one hell of a good one.

I am sure once i use it for a while I may also come up with a few suggestions for future updates, but so far it is Awesome.

TS
 

RehaCk

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Hey everyone,

First of all thank you for this amazing app Volker! I just have one request, would it be possible to make a "lasso-mode" ? So you can rearrange your written stuff at a time instead of erasing and then new writing.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
 
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TSGM

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I wanted to repost the little review and suggestion that I made in the HTC Flyer forum, in the hopes that the developer would catch it here:

This is a great little program, and to be honest, it's the kind of thing you expect from the HTC Notes. I do have one suggestion to the developer, and I think it would really help: the fountain pen needs a more realistic stroke.

I think what you should aspire for is a pen stroke which resembles the calligraphy brush of the Sketchpad Mobile app. This means that the thickness of the line depends on the direction for which the stroke is applied. A fountain pen, for example, is usually held so that the angle of the nib is tilted to the horizontal of the page. A downstroke at an angle of +45 degrees to the horizontal would then differ from a stroke at an angle of -45 degrees.

The HTC scribe calligraphy brush emulates this to a certain extent (but nowhere near as good as the Sketchpad).

I think a true fountain pen/calligraphic brush would be a big improvement. It makes writing more attractive, because you have a more natural mix of thin and thick lines depending on the stroke.
A true fountain or calligraphic pen stroke is something that I'm most excited for the possibility of in terms of a future development.
 

jrpowers

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Fantastic job

Incredible application.

The vector aspect is absolutely crucial. I don't know how anyone could think a raster solution makes sense for notes ( or sketches).

I like the focus on fast responsiveness, this is easy to ignore in favor of other features, but without fast capture, nothing else matters. Keep focusing on this and any more responsiveness that can be achieved will go a long way.

I do agree with other commenters that a lasso mode would be incredibly valuable. The think pad pen's button would be the way to activate lasso. Something just like Microsoft one note would be great. Does android expose access to the button?
 

Volker1

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I wanted to repost the little review and suggestion that I made in the HTC Flyer forum, in the hopes that the developer would catch it here: [..]
I do follow the Flyer forum as well. Its a good idea but not that easy to implement. The reason for the current behavior is that it is fast, only using Android primitives.


Does android expose access to the button?
ICS has a stylus API, but Honeycomb doesn't. I still don't know how to access the stylus button state on the TPT. We might have to wait for ICS...
 

HecaThePeca

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+1 for Samsung Galaxy Note version!! It has wacom and gingerbread 2.3.6, so maybe it's not that simple? Anyway, the next Samsung tablet will almost certainly have the S-Pen too, so heads up Volker! ;)
 

TSGM

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I do follow the Flyer forum as well. Its a good idea but not that easy to implement. The reason for the current behavior is that it is fast, only using Android primitives.
Ah, I see.

Although Quill's use of vector graphics seems to be unique (compared to Notes, for example), why is it that the resolution of Notes is so bad? Sketchpad Mobile, which presumably uses bitmap graphics, has a beautiful calligraphic pen output, which is butter smooth. Presumably, this has to do with attention paid to smoothing the edges of lines.

The reason why I bring this up is that in my naive opinion, vector graphics is not really important to note-taking. What is important is a high resolution page which can be zoomed in-out (a feature which Notes lacks), and a smooth brush of the sort of Sketchpad.

In fact, I think Sketchpad would be well suited for taking notes, if only they offered a notebook format, with multiple pages, and syncing with Evernote.
 

HecaThePeca

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Ah, I see.

Although Quill's use of vector graphics seems to be unique (compared to Notes, for example), why is it that the resolution of Notes is so bad? Sketchpad Mobile, which presumably uses bitmap graphics, has a beautiful calligraphic pen output, which is butter smooth. Presumably, this has to do with attention paid to smoothing the edges of lines.

The reason why I bring this up is that in my naive opinion, vector graphics is not really important to note-taking. What is important is a high resolution page which can be zoomed in-out (a feature which Notes lacks), and a smooth brush of the sort of Sketchpad.

In fact, I think Sketchpad would be well suited for taking notes, if only they offered a notebook format, with multiple pages, and syncing with Evernote.
No, it's very important to have vector graphics for long notes. Zoom should work much better too, since there's no pixels.
 

sakobatoneko

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I got to say this is the best note taking app i have tried! This app is great for taking notes for math and science classes. I have two request; could you implement away to create lines and shapes (circles,triangles, etc...) and use the keyboard folio to take notes.
 

tnnm

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Volker1:

This looks to be an amazing app (I don't have an Android tablet yet so I haven't tried it). That said, does your development roadmap include plans to implement synchronized audio recording (similar to MS Onenote)? That feature would get me to go buy a Thinkpad or Jetstream after work today!

Thanks,
Tony
 

iammarrk

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PDF Import

To echo what others have said, this is a great app. One thing that I would suggest is:

Add the ability to import a pdf to markup.

All of the pdf markup apps assume that you are highlighting a text document, but nothing is geared toward students marking up powerpoint slides exported as pdf.
 

headdy

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That would be a great function but I think Quill should be for taking notes only.
I would recommend to consider releasing a lone-standing app based on Quill's core to ink in pdfs.
It would keep Quill simple and understandable and give you the opportunity to earn a few more bucks for your outstanding work.

Right now I'm using ezPDF but it sucks not to have a digitizer-only function
 

bsoplinger

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That would be a great function but I think Quill should be for taking notes only.
I would recommend to consider releasing a lone-standing app based on Quill's core to ink in pdfs.
It would keep Quill simple and understandable and give you the opportunity to earn a few more bucks for your outstanding work.

Right now I'm using ezPDF but it sucks not to have a digitizer-only function
It would be nice to do pdf markup with something like quill. But I agree that it might make more sense to have a different app for markup. Having another app to earn a bit more seems like a good idea too.

Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk
 

Skilover

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Problems with Samsung Galaxy Nexus (phone). Part of the ink palate is hidden under the arrows, so you cannot access those colors. Trying to use the detailed colors from the menu is impossible unless you want red, as you cannot scroll it. It appears there is a scroll handle, but it doesn't work. Whatever the left logo is supposed to do when you press on it, it simply F/C the app. Also, there's no choice but to use the bottom to lean on , whether you set the setting to make it ignore gestures or not, it does ignore them. NOTE:: this is a ICS phone.

Some apps use a writing line that allows you to write at a normal size, and then it's placed into the document at the reduced size, allowing you to write on phone and still get a meaningful amount onto the page. On a tablet, this is less necessary, but done right can be useful. You have to be able to adjust the size, however. You also have to be able to switch this off, so you can draw. It can be tricky, but can be useful. HotAllMemo seems to have a nice approach to this.

I'm totally impressed by the resolution of the lines drawn, and the speed and responsiveness of the app!!! no jagged edges at all!!