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Mr.Clark

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I only see one advantage to Iphone---8GB internal storage!

If WM phones are going to compete with Iphone, they better increase the amount of internal RAM, to 8GB or more!

Except: most of that storage on the iPhone is used for music and/or films.

Windows mobile devices have some form of easily-accessable (and hence swappable) memory card, be it SD/MMC, miniSD, MicroSD, SDHC etc. etc.

So technically, (as long as you duplicate installed apps over all your cards so that they work whichever one you use), you can have a card full of music, another card full of films and yet another card with different TomTom maps on.

You can swap these cards around as you like, and that's much cheaper for the user than having internal flash memory.
 

vitali77

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Saffari on iPhone

Does anyone know if Safari on iPhone is going to support FLASH plugin in next version.

Thanks,
Vitali Malinouski
 

james.white

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Hi guys, I’m planning to buy a gift this coming Thanksgiving Day since it’s my girl’s birthday but I don’t know what will be the best gift to buy since my girl had an Iphone already. I’m planning to buy a stilletto100 a satellite radio since my girl loves music. I heard that it’s a commercial- free music then, do you guys have an idea about that?
 

rockky

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After having tons of fun for years hacking my tytn and now my tilt to death on this site, I also purchased the Iphone just for kicks a few months ago....(and have IT hacked to death).....
The result..to my shock...I began using the Iphone more and more....the Tilt less and less....and have basically adopted the Iphone by default.
Functional elegance sometimes can't be beat.
Not suggesting 3G compares to edge in absolute terms, but....(the processor along with the page rendering characteristics of the Iphone (on edge) actually produce real world surfing speeds that are relatively close to that of the tilt...done tons of size-by-side comparisons)
 

CWKJ

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As we know iPhone is only launch in the US first.

And it seems Creativity and Innovativity is the sole right of only Apple, or so maybe that is what Apple thinks.

Some (quite creative and innovative) entreprenuer here did a parallel import, but stupid enough to so call "HACKED" the SIM Lock for ATT and they got warning for selling HACKED iPhone and will get fine SGD1000 for each iPhone sold. They could easily just sell the unhacked product and users can find hack somewhere, somehow. But again, knowing Apple, they will again warn the sellers that it is illegal to sell products that are not launch here. Who to blame, Apple is the one to be blame for being without the capability (most likely technical) to do a parallel launch of product world wide.

By having SIM Lock, it is in fact an Anti-Competition behaviour by service providers and is in fact another form of Protectionism and it inhibits creative and innovative competition strategy among service providers.

So who says that it is customers' first in business, it should be Business Bottom Line First in business.

Also some interesting development that some enterprise solution will be added into iPhone by some Software Giants despite some flaws in iPhone. Flaws include unable to push emails and obviously M$ & RIM maybe needed on this situation.
 
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P996

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After having tons of fun for years hacking my tytn and now my tilt to death on this site, I also purchased the Iphone just for kicks a few months ago....(and have IT hacked to death).....
The result..to my shock...I began using the Iphone more and more....the Tilt less and less....and have basically adopted the Iphone by default.
Functional elegance sometimes can't be beat.
Not suggesting 3G compares to edge in absolute terms, but....(the processor along with the page rendering characteristics of the Iphone (on edge) actually produce real world surfing speeds that are relatively close to that of the tilt...done tons of size-by-side comparisons)

You'd be surprised how many people I know went through the same experience. The iPhone lacks 3G, it lacks a A2DP profile, it lacks a decent camera (still...it takes decent pictures for a 2 MP cam without autofocus and it is better for "fast" shots than my TyTN II 3 MP autofocus camera) but since I own it, I almost never looked back and left my TyTN II and my Nokia E90 in my office' drawer.

The iPhone is an incredible device, mostly because of the ingenius OS, GUI and touchscreen operation. The display is also great.

Whenever I use my TyTN II again (business purposes), I get shocked how bad the display quality is and how sluggish the OS works compared to the "instant" reaction of the iPhone OS.

That said, I think that HTC and especially Microsoft have to go back to the drawing (developping) table because if Apple gets it right next time with a iPhone with UMTS/HSDPA, a better camer with video recording capability and a A2DP profile, there won't be much cell phones on this planet to be able to keep up with it. The new HTC Touch Dual is a very nice gadget but unfortunately the display sucks and the sluggish OS operation is something I would not like to experience anymore on ANY cell phone I'm using.

Surprisingly, the Safari browser on the iPhone works pretty fast with EDGE, there are not many situations when I miss having 3G.
Apple did an incredible job considering the fact that this is the first cell phone they developped by their own, so I just hope that companies with more experience in this business like HTC, Microsoft or even Nokia come up with something equal or better any time soon because if Apple succeeds in adapting current cell phone technology to the already advanced OS/GUI/touch operation, the other cell phone/OS manufacturers will be in big trouble.
 

juiceppc

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Of course it is. It ain't a "smartphone". No proper smartphone would have that kind of crappy calendar.

I think we beat up on WinMo and HTC a lot for not giving us everything(as well we should :)) but at least we get the "important" stuff done right. Like Calendar and email. Sure blackberry does that well too but that's where it stops. At least WinMo does try to do everything. It may stumble, but at least it tries. The iPhone gives a great multimedia experience but it doesn't even try to give a good PIM experience...

Hence, "It ain't a smartphone". it's a pertyphone.
 
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Bram87

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I get my iphone in about 2 weeks!!! Cant wait..

together with my tytn 2 its the great combination
 

P996

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Of course it is. It ain't a "smartphone". No proper smartphone would have that kind of crappy calendar.

I think we beat up on WinMo and HTC a lot for not giving us everything(as well we should :)) but at least we get the "important" stuff done right. Like Calendar and email. Sure blackberry does that well too but that's where it stops. At least WinMo does try to do everything. It may stumble, but at least it tries. The iPhone gives a great multimedia experience but it doesn't even try to give a good PIM experience...

Hence, "It ain't a smartphone". it's a pertyphone.


There are already TONS of third party apps available for the iPhone, some of them extend the functionality to a point almost unbelievable (Photo Browser and TuneWiki are only two ingenius examples).
People seem to forget that the iPhone is Apple phone No.1. Look back in time and remember the first HP Pocket PC Phone (this was MY first WM phone) and it is a difference like day and night.
I don't say Apple got it 100% right the first time but the GUI/OS/touch operation are already so good on the iPhone, the steps to improve applications and to introduce third party apps (with the new SDK soon to come!) isn't THAT big.
HTC has a great potential and so does WM, especially since WM5/6. Symbian concentrated too much on the multimedia functions and I don't like using it. I also own a Nokia E90 and a Nokia 95/95 8GB and whenever I'm powering up one of these babies again, it is like looking at some children playing software engineers. The icons are too kiddie-like, the whole Symbian S60 3rd software operation experience reminds me of kids playing with a colourful learning computer, it just doesn't have a professional touch.
Windows Mobile is much better in this domain but still, I get the feeling that Microsoft doesn't realize what Apple put on the market with the iPhone. It is not about the crappy GSM hardware without UMTS/HSDPA or the crappy camera without video function. The iPhone is the 21st (compared to the other phones on the market more likely 22st) century cell phone regarding the GUI/OS/touch operation and to add some hardware functions (3G, better camera, GPS) and software apps is almost a piece of cake now.
If Apple gets it right with the iPhone 2 (or more likely 3), manufacturers like HTC, Nokia but also Software companies like MS or Symbian will be in trouble. Whowever used the iPhone and didn't just play a couple of minutes with it knows what I'm talking about.

For Microsoft, there should be three priorities in WM development right now:
1. getting rid of the "sluggishness" of WM operation (which probably requires a completely new programming from scratch and I wouldn't mind if MS would use Unix/Linux based code to get it right)
2. forcing hardware manufacturers to make use of the VGA resolution capability because whenever I look at my TyTN II's display, I have the feeling of being thrown back in time a couple of years.
3. better support for exotic hardware and CPU/GPU combos

For HTC, there should be four priorities in hardware development:
1. better and larger displays with VGA resolution (at least)
2. better battery life and energy management
3. faster CPU/GPU combos with somehow lower power consumption
4. iPhone-like touch display operation

Yes, owning an iPhone and a HTC TyTN II may be the perfect combo (I still think that owning an iPhone, a HTC TyTN II and a Nokia N95 8GB is the perfect combo because the Nokia has a superb camera with superb photo/video capabilities) but the problem is that as soon as someone gets used to the iPhone, looking at the HTC/Nokia display and operation throws you back into the stoneage. This is actually my biggest problem and this is why I'm using the iPhone most of the time and other two ONLY if I really need some special functions (HTC for business and Nokia for family vacations).

Don't get me wrong: I'm a very open minded person regarding computers and gadgets, I still prefer Windows Vista on my laptops (mostly current hardware and 2GB RAM) and I had more problems with OSX Leopard in the past two weeks on my daugthers iMac than I EVER had with Windows over the past 10 years. However, if Apple puts an iPhone with UMTS/HSDPA, A2DP profile, a decent 5 MP camera and improved business usability on the market, it will be very difficult for me to go for another product in the future. HTC and Microsoft have a GREAT potential at their hands, I just get the feeling that they sometimes forget to look a little bit closer at the competition.
Which also reminds me of the crappy design of the current HTC devices, HTC clearly needs a better exterior shell designer because the HTC TyTN II for example looks like a WM device from 5 years ago.
 
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I only see one advantage to Iphone---8GB internal storage!

If WM phones are going to compete with Iphone, they better increase the amount of internal RAM, to 8GB or more!

huh? but you can't replace the battery, can't change the 8gb like sdhc card...I will take HTC Touch anytime!
 
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