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gasman858

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Data Connection issue vs iPhone

Sorry about the tangentiality -
For those of you on the ATT network, I have a question - I have a Tilt, my colleague an iPhone. In one location we can be sitting in the same room where we both get voice signal (for some reason mine shows roaming - possibly because of T-Mobile repeaters in building), iPhone gets EDGE/data and can download on safari, I get no data at all even though I have E icon for signal - my primary Tilt conn is MEdianet, but i've tried isp.cingular, wap.cingular with no luck - any ideas? I get 3g & Edge elsewhere without problems.
Tried to review edge settings on his iPhone, but not familiar with it enough to find them, or they're not available...
Thanks in advance.
 

jadephyre

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i still don't know what all the fuzz is about this damn phone... what good is a Phone that you have to HACK to get any kind of useful Programs for ?
Granted, i hacked my Himalaya too to get more out of it, but for a fairly recent Phone this is madness.
Of course it wins design-wise, but when you don't jailbreak it, it just looks pretty.
399 Dollars for something that is restricted to ONE provider (even when you buy it from the store) and that can only install Software from Apple when not jailbroken.

The iPhone to me is a Toy, Windows Mobile Devices are Workhorses.
 

cushcalc

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Red - Green opposition

Just one other thought/opinion:

Why is Apple so arrogant and/or obtuse that they must put the Green Send and Red End keys in reversed position to what every other manufacturere does?

It's kind of like the old Triumph's and BSA's vs. the rest of the motorcycle world.

This is not a feature - IMHO it is just arrogance/stubborness in effort to be different.
 

huffpost

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My Two Cents

My few thoughts about this iPhone.

1. Lack of exchangable battery - bad,
2. GSM/GPRS/EDGE/Quad-band - OK, but lacks UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA is major dissapointment,
3. Wi-Fi b/g - nice, but b/g is nowadays standard, not big deal,
4. No 3rd party software - bad, really bad,
5. Battery life - nothing, zero, nada. Why they did not tell what is expected standby time? Because it sux and with 3G you would have to go all the time with power cord,
6. Graphics - Nice, very nice - Apple always was king in graphics,
7. Design - I do not like it, but this is personal agenda,
8. Data usage - Jobs was making fun of BB, but BB is king of data compression, even for havy users 20 MB is plenty, I guess that unlimited data plan will be needed for users of iPhone,
9. Sensors - stupid idea, if I will move my hand screen will go crazy. Only good idea is screen off when by ear side, but this was not their idea. First was Ericsson R520m with ear sensor - when phone was not by ear speaker phone was on, thou nice idea users hated it,
10. Contacs - if I am PC user I should switch to what? iContacts? I am predicting a lot of problems with sync with Outlook.

OK, I am heavy PC user. I am not in graphics or publishing - thou I do not need Mac. I use IBM laptop because it was design to work in many places with no problems, additional programs to configure different network accesses ie. Work, Home, Airport Lounges, Starbucks, Other Networks - different credentials, security certs etc. It HAS to work, I do not care if it is black and square, not rounded. Same I demand from phone. Has to work all the time, if I use up battery I always have spare. Using only mail and sync with exchange I have data usage of 50-100 MB per month. So I guess that this phone will have more then that. So monthly it will be far more then 100USD, and Jobs is talking about saving money?

What I would like to get from Apple is iTunes for WindowsMobile with full Apple DRM to listen and watch stuff I bought from them. But with iPhone it won't happen. AFAIR revenue ratio iPod to iTunes is 1 to 8. They make 8 times more money on iTunes. Give me that not product which is not good for me.


This is my thinking for what it is worth. I have been a long time Palm user. When palm launched a Windows Mobile Phone I was ecstatic to say the least. It synced with outlook, had internet explorer (although I used Opera Mobile) and had the look and feel of my pc. The world was well, until last week when I dropped my Treo 750 and broke it. I was going to go with the Tilt (aka HTC Tytn II) a great phone with a great feature set and a better price. However upon discovering that the Iphone was still making money on Ebay because the hype has not fully worn off yet I decided to get one and then sell it to defray my cost on the Tilt. I took it home and unwrapped and turned it on and was hooked for life. It is light years ahead of the Tilt in terms of GUI and usability. There are some kinks to work out of course however I can say with confidence that I will never go back to WM and Steve Jobs for all his faults has gained a lifetime customer. The interface alone is worth it not to mention the memory and ease of use. To address the concerns above the Iphone Unlimeted data plan is only $20.00 a month as compared to WM plans that begin at $30.00 a month. As for the Ipod it could not be better. As for the internet the connection on edge just simply loads faster than anything I have seen on 3g on my old treo using Opera and IE mobile. I have tested the speed and it is standard and comprable to WM however the compresion simply has to be better since pages load 5x faster on average for me. Well there ya go my two cents.
 

huffpost

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i still don't know what all the fuzz is about this damn phone... what good is a Phone that you have to HACK to get any kind of useful Programs for ?
Granted, i hacked my Himalaya too to get more out of it, but for a fairly recent Phone this is madness.
Of course it wins design-wise, but when you don't jailbreak it, it just looks pretty.
399 Dollars for something that is restricted to ONE provider (even when you buy it from the store) and that can only install Software from Apple when not jailbroken.

The iPhone to me is a Toy, Windows Mobile Devices are Workhorses.

Well considering that Apple has paid to have a bunch of web developers bring ineternet based applications to the Iphone so that you don't have to purchase them I would say that is pretty darn great.
 

Curare

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Question to the iphone owners. I was playing around with an iphone at an apple store last night and it seemed to be laggy. When I try opening settings after getting out of safari, took it a couple of second before it opened settings. I expected it to be more instantaneous with the processor it has. Now, I understand it may just be a case of everyone playing around the demo iphones, so every little program on the screen was opened and running in RAM. So how do you guys clear memory? With WinMo, you can completely close a program instead of keeping it running and reclaim some RAM, but that doesn't seem to be the case with the iphone. The iphone doesn't have a memory manager. Seems WinMo takes a lot of heat for crashing a lot and phones need to be restarted, but seems iphones may run into a similar problem. Just wondering.
 

Sigiel

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to answers the question above how the iphone handle memory, when you are in a an application if you press the home button shortly you just quit the application and it's is still running, but when you press it longer it closed completely very nifty! but hard to see if done properly!

So now about it

I started in the vast world of pda with a sony erricson p900i, I was very happy with it, easy to use, good connection, large screen, the wheel was a fantastic idea! then I broke the screen, I was heart broken, but having used the touch screen it's rather difficult to go back to a normal phone,

so I came to the XDA IIi (or alpine) that was great! so much more you could do with it, I still missed the P900i because of the wheel, but other than that I could see the serious advantage of the xda... especially with the 02 hack that gave you free GPRS data on Port 80...

then when the Magician was out, I tried it, I positively loved it, small, compact and almost as powerful as the XDA III, and with a winamp skin, I put to shame other friends brand new IPOD!

then i try the universal, great stuff, but a bit heavy and bulky, very nice keyboard ultra fast, but then 02 patched the port 80 and no more free data, a bad think about the universal is that the screen is vga, and too little software use it, even to skin it it's the pain....

anyway I did go back to France use my magician cause it was the best of all, and I could still put to shame anything else with, then I broke it!

in my sorrow I tried the LG viewty, i so loved it, i missed the full PDA thing, but the IU was correct, and the camera was just the best!

and I lost it! I have to tell you that all this time was laughing about the IPOD and Ipone, cause I knew I could do the same with hack and customisations on my numerous pda!

but then I needed for my work cheap data service, and the only one that does that was orange with the iphone and unlimited data, so I took it,

and MY conclusion is

Iphone beat the crap out of any pda I ever own,

why ? cause of it's Instinctive IU, it's really expensive, it's not the best hardware top notch technologies (well sort of) but it smooth, fast, easy and without bug!

I did try to make my xda's look and perform like the iphone, it's not even close!
and the visual vocal messagery give the last blow,

I just wonder when the iphone 2 will be released...

I still love pda, do not get me wrong, but what apple sell on the iphone is the IU and it's easiness, and in this ...nothing compare.

I will respect opinion based on actual use of the iphone, not because someone read the spec and desided that a pda is better because it have this and this.

what the iphone does, it does it good, very good,
best of all : surfing the web, getting email.

ten sending sms (i never ever used MMS) and a phone! and an ipod. it just a great product, a XDA can do all of it yes!, better maybe?, faster no! easier definetly not!,

and before I get my head chopped off, the only thing I see very bad in the iphone is the battery not removable, and the bluetooth! even the lack of 3G isn't an issue, I use it and edge is really fast! and soon there would be 3G and stereo bluetooth!

and now that the sdk is out even 3rd party apps isn't an issus!

I hope that hdc work on something that beat the crap out of it, I will be the fist to get it,
but at this moment in time there is nothing that even scratch the surface,

and just you know I used the hdc touch, and it is good, but so slow and slugish! and still WM6 (absolutely not user friendly)

well that my view on the iphone, but i will make an exception of the magician, cause I just loved that little bastard!
 

hhda2004

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Jan 20, 2008
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HTC Innovations

I think that iPhone is much more concerned about having more imaginable entertainment faciliity. The screen resolution is outstanding, Wifi gives a very strong signal and the touch screen is maybe 10 times mre powerful than HTC screens.

But still, I prefer to have my HTC touch Cruise because there are plenty of creations and innovations. Windows mobile (7) is launching soon. At that time,who konws?, it could beat the iPhone.

Consider thinking!!
 

Lokioki

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I think that iPhone is much more concerned about having more imaginable entertainment faciliity. The screen resolution is outstanding, Wifi gives a very strong signal and the touch screen is maybe 10 times mre powerful than HTC screens.

But still, I prefer to have my HTC touch Cruise because there are plenty of creations and innovations. Windows mobile (7) is launching soon. At that time,who konws?, it could beat the iPhone.

Consider thinking!!

iLoL, wvga anyone ?
But touch screen is amazing accurate in it, I always hitted where I wanted with my thumb, even when I`m using Safari. It is just that great :3 I wish my Kaiser would have been as good as iPhones touch-screen technology.
 

sambo121

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>> need help to unlock iphone <<<<

>>> i have being given an iphone by my dad, and its locked to o2. Can you help me unlock it to all sims . . . :(

Thanks,
 
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