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dishe2

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You can make calls with the Bluetooth 2 chip by setting sys.fyt.bluetooth_type=0 in config.txt
This disables the other Bluetooth chip completely.

Calls need to be initiated via the main BT (Bluetooth 1) app but it uses the SoC Bluetooth, aka the Bluetooth 2 chip.
Ah, you changed the config to make it act like other FYT radios that have different hardware. Some people who wanted to get the original aosp stack tried using the Atoto config but it only partially worked. Some features like connecting to other BT accessories worked but other things like call and a2dp support weren't working correctly.
I'd assume the same would happen in reverse. You didn't just "disable" the other chip, you told the system to act like it has different hardware. It's like installing the wrong driver, it's going to be unreliable.

I'd ask Atoto for a firmware flash with config txt to return things to the way they should be. I messed with my config to try resetting all partitions and it totally messed up my S8 Ultra, Bluetooth was weird, system playback would pause on its own, and avrcp didn't work at all until they sent me a config file to flash which put everything back correctly. If that doesn't fix the problem, maybe go back to a previous firmware that worked? You'll still need to flash the config again after you've touched it. It gets weird fast.
 
Ah, you changed the config to make it act like other FYT radios that have different hardware. Some people who wanted to get the original aosp stack tried using the Atoto config but it only partially worked.
Other FYT units have the same hardware, and they work the exact same as Atotos.

It is simply 2 lines in Atotos config.txt that I copy to my Mekede and my Bluetooth 2 (the Android Bluetooth stack) kicks in to life allowing all accessories to work and no longer showing devices as simply "no name".

persist.lsec.enable_a2dp=true
ro.lsec.btname=Bluetooth 2
 

Cogiclogic

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Uh, that's not how BT1 and 2 are supposed to work or be used.

BT2 is the original android Bluetooth stack and is incapable of making calls. BT1 is a separate Bluetooth chip that is used for incoming audio connections (since Android is designed for outgoing not incoming, this is a feature added to radios like ours).
There's no way you "switch to BT2" that makes any kind of sense to me unless you really are confused to the point that you used BT2 to connect to BT1 (which, since they are separate chips, it technically can see itself and connect) creating a loop of audio with no mic. But it doesn't explain how on earth you'd place a call that way, this makes no sense to me at all.

What kind of script did you find and why was support no help? Support has always been helpful unless you went ahead and tried to flash something made for different hardware and fubared your system before asking them?

Uh, that's not how BT1 and 2 are supposed to work or be used.

BT2 is the original android Bluetooth stack and is incapable of making calls. BT1 is a separate Bluetooth chip that is used for incoming audio connections (since Android is designed for outgoing not incoming, this is a feature added to radios like ours).
There's no way you "switch to BT2" that makes any kind of sense to me unless you really are confused to the point that you used BT2 to connect to BT1 (which, since they are separate chips, it technically can see itself and connect) creating a loop of audio with no mic. But it doesn't explain how on earth you'd place a call that way, this makes no sense to me at all.

What kind of script did you find and why was support no help? Support has always been helpful unless you went ahead and tried to flash something made for different hardware and fubared your system before asking them?
Man, I’ve went through countless emails trying resetting, installing, downloading, button combinations on the Bluetooth remote control. It all started with me being big eyed seeing a Reddit post about an update being available for my version of the head unit. Me not being very tech savvy. I then contacted customer service about how to get the correct firmware. The agent I was in contact with had me verify my purchase which I made from Amazon, and then sent me the files via Dropbox(MCU update was also included). The email also included directions of how to install. During the install process I noticed 2 of the files read red and error. It was moving so fast I couldn’t really see exactly what they were. After the first boot the unit only had a few apps available and didn’t work at all when trying to find anything WiFi, gps, mic and Bluetooth related. I contacted customer support about what happened and a apology was issued. I was then instructed and sent downgrading info and files. After following all the directions, the unit returned to semi normal. Minus the Bluetooth and microphone working. When we found out downgrading wasn’t fixing my issues I was then instructed to upgrade again with the files sent at first. After so much back and forth the agent finally gave up and told me my unit was no longer under warranty and 10% could be taken off a new unit. I raised hell and through email 😂 and got 20 more percent off. Any who, I then decided to do a little research myself. I found myself on this forum reading on page 44 about the Bluetooth config txt that I used. After trying that, I’ve been able to at least listen to music and sync my phone. My options for Bluetooth for instance since using the config txt are Atoto with a capital (A) and a lower case (A). I found it odd that the radio recognizes itself as a Bluetooth option and will even connect to itself. I knew something wasn’t right after that. While on phone calls connected to Atoto with the capital (A) I can hear the other end fine. They just can’t hear me. Atoto with the lower case (A) allows the other person to hear me fine but, in return I can not hear them. I’ve tried downloading several recording apps and bought several different mic trying to solve this issue. After reading the last few post I found out I just screwed things up worse 😒.
 
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NineLizards

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Despite some issues I've read about, I'm still considering buying an Atoto S8 unit. Unfortunately, not all models are carried in NL (The Netherlands). According to Atoto's website the S8G2B74SD (not for sale in NL) does split screen, whilst the S8G2A74SD does not.

Could someone with an S8G2A74SD tell me if it actually supports split screen?
 

ekoul

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Try a compatible 4 port USB hub they work on android head unit
hi, i got the S8 premium, honestly very satisfied so far from the sound and features, although there are many things I am still exploring. When I connect my android phone (AA) I have the connection with my USB 2tb SSD (exFAT) dropping and I need to unplug and replug the drive for the system to see it again. i understand that a USB hub can solve the issue when connecting the phone via USB. Any known solution for wireless connection that you know? mthx in advance
 

1991-W201

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hi, i got the S8 premium, honestly very satisfied so far from the sound and features, although there are many things I am still exploring. When I connect my android phone (AA) I have the connection with my USB 2tb SSD (exFAT) dropping and I need to unplug and replug the drive for the system to see it again. i understand that a USB hub can solve the issue when connecting the phone via USB. Any known solution for wireless connection that you know? mthx in advance
FWIW, I use this 4 port USB 3.0 hub (https://a.co/d/azTaKgI) with my Atoto S8G2A74SD S8 Gen II 7" head unit (https://a.co/d/jiRgl2E) and it works flawlessly...
 
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    Long story short. The last update I did on my ATOTO S8 Pro Plus S8G2B75PL made Bluetooth,internal and external mic break. I was able to get Bluetooth back working by browsing the net finding a script file to upload. The funny thing is on Bluetooth 1 I can hear the person on the other end of the call but when I try to talk to them they can not hear me at all. When I switch to Bluetooth 2 the person on the other end of the call can hear me just fine. I just can’t hear them. I’ve tried 2 different brand mics and 2 different recording apps. I’ve also contacted customer service about the issue. Needless to say they were no help. I was wondering if anyone else has run into a similar situation and may know how to fix this issue.
    Uh, that's not how BT1 and 2 are supposed to work or be used.

    BT2 is the original android Bluetooth stack and is incapable of making calls. BT1 is a separate Bluetooth chip that is used for incoming audio connections (since Android is designed for outgoing not incoming, this is a feature added to radios like ours).
    There's no way you "switch to BT2" that makes any kind of sense to me unless you really are confused to the point that you used BT2 to connect to BT1 (which, since they are separate chips, it technically can see itself and connect) creating a loop of audio with no mic. But it doesn't explain how on earth you'd place a call that way, this makes no sense to me at all.

    What kind of script did you find and why was support no help? Support has always been helpful unless you went ahead and tried to flash something made for different hardware and fubared your system before asking them?
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    hi, i got the S8 premium, honestly very satisfied so far from the sound and features, although there are many things I am still exploring. When I connect my android phone (AA) I have the connection with my USB 2tb SSD (exFAT) dropping and I need to unplug and replug the drive for the system to see it again. i understand that a USB hub can solve the issue when connecting the phone via USB. Any known solution for wireless connection that you know? mthx in advance
    FWIW, I use this 4 port USB 3.0 hub (https://a.co/d/azTaKgI) with my Atoto S8G2A74SD S8 Gen II 7" head unit (https://a.co/d/jiRgl2E) and it works flawlessly...
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    Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.

    Current lineup:

    S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
    S8 Pro Version S8G2A75P(4GB/32GB)
    S8 Ultra


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    Tips/Notes
    • Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
    • Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
    • The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
    • File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
    • On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.


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    Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
    I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
    I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
    In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
    Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
    This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.

    As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
    Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.

    Items of note that I have found:
    1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
    Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
    There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know

    2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
    This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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    To bad Atoto is not monitoring this thread to help it's customer's a little bit with these type of questions.
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    Guys, there's a new radio app available for the Atoto S8!!! I already tested this and it actually works!
    It's the only radio app besides the native one (well and any from other FYT head units) that actually works with our head unit. :D
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    I have a few apps installed on my S8 Gen2. These apps are not able to write to the SD card. Nor can I enable access. When the app tries to open a dialog to grant access it fails. I cannot recall the messages but it seems to say that some system component is missing. I have tried to grant access from the settings -> apps -> permissions but each app seems to already have Storage permission.

    Any ideas?
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    I've rooted phones before but what do I gain/loose by rooting my headunit?

    For the vast majority of users they don't need to root. If the system does what they want then leave well enough alone.

    I've rooted all my Android devices since the original Google G1, with the exception of my Sony TVs. For me, rooting gives me full control of my device. I can backup all my apps along with their settings and I can easily restore them. I can block ads (I hate the ads in Waze). I can transfer files back and forth via ADB wireless for the ATOTO (none of the usb ports work for ADB). For the ATOTO, I want to fix the bloody buttons that don't open the correct app. Why in the world would I want the microphone button to open Google Voice Search and search the web instead of Google Assistant that I can open apps and have it make calls with. The AC-44F5 also is hard coded to open the FCAM app instead of being able to change it to open the HDDVR app.

    I was really dissapointed to loose the rear cam calibration settings after spending 90 minutes measuring and calibrating the rear camera. So I was not going to go through that again unless I can backup the apps and the settings. Swift Backup gives me that.

    So root if you want full control over your device, otherwise leave well enough alone and run the stock firmware.