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c_86

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Hey everyone, been trying to read most of the thread, but havent gotten there just yet.

Curious, has anyone been able to figure out how to get android auto to work as a stand alone app? Meaning no need to connect to the phone other then for data? Or at least a launcher or something that will allow me to have maps (waze) and music at the same time showing, like widgets?

Im sure there is more I would like to do with this (coming from a Pioneer head unit (4.7" screen) that had android auto in it, and was using Wireless AA dongle), but with this I would like for android auto to launch itself with no phone... hopefully possible

Am continuing to read everything i can on this unit

thanks in advance
 

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Hey everyone, been trying to read most of the thread, but havent gotten there just yet.

Curious, has anyone been able to figure out how to get android auto to work as a stand alone app? Meaning no need to connect to the phone other then for data? Or at least a launcher or something that will allow me to have maps (waze) and music at the same time showing, like widgets?

Im sure there is more I would like to do with this (coming from a Pioneer head unit (4.7" screen) that had android auto in it, and was using Wireless AA dongle), but with this I would like for android auto to launch itself with no phone... hopefully possible

Am continuing to read everything i can on this unit

thanks in advance
Check out the head unit reloaded thread.
 
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Atoto S8 Gen 1 here (S8G2A71S)

Does anyone have the issue where the top swipe down menu and the top buttons freeze after a period of time (couple of weeks typically) the only fix seems to be a complete factory reset and wipe. Atoto sent me a couple of updates including the MCU but the onscreen buttons are still frozen.

My first S8 which I had to return under warranty also had this issue.
Yep I have had that problem three or maybe four times over about a year of owning the S8 Pro(Gen 1), the first two times I did a complete wipe/reset to fix the problem, which sucked, having to set it all up again. This last time ,only a few days ago I tried pressing that tiny recessed reset button on the front ,it rebooted and was fixed instantly.
I had emailed Atoto about it in the past but they never replied, this time they did and sent me the links for those F/W and MCU updates, I haven't tried them yet as it is all working again.
I did notice at least twice when this happened ,I was trying to transfer a planned journey on Google maps from my tablet to the H/U via Bluetooth, it failed and caused the problem we are having.
Another problem though after doing the little button reset is that Spotify won't load now, just hangs and asks to close app/wait/send feedback. This sucks as I have a Samsung 500Gb SSD Drive connected through back of glove box, where all my Spotify offline music is downloaded to and if I reinstall Spotify I don't think it will find the files which means hours and hours of downloading all my albums/playlists again.
I do like this S8 but as everyone says ,it does have its issues.
Anyway hope that helps you without having to do a complete wipe, if you haven't already fixed it. Cheers.
 

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Hi all, I have the S8 Pro (gen1) with the USB dashcam ,all works pretty good(except for the top buttons/nav bar becoming unresponsive!) Anyway does anyone know how to get the dashcam recorded files off and onto an external device, eg. Onto my tablet via Bluetooth ,or into SD card etc. Can't find how to do it through the HD DVR app ,I couldn't find any way to do it through the file manager, and when I removed the microSD from the dash cam and put into tablet ,it showed one file and said the rest of card was empty (there were heaps on there,I had just watched on H/U) it was like it had deleted all files except for one, so I put the card back into dashcam and checked through the S8 and it confirmed all files except one were now gone.
So yeah does anyone know how to transfer theses dashcam files please? Thanks everyone.
 

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Does anyone know how to separate the volume levels? Meaning i could be listening to music loud, and then waze pops in and is just as loud, instead of lowering the music volume, and then waze being at a decent volume?

That was confusing, but i hope it made sense...
 

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győződjön meg róla, hogy a hangerő a legmagasabb szinten van a telefonon, majd a hangerő növelése gombbal magasabbra kell tudnia állítani a hangerőt a decken, az enyémen elég hangos.

győződjön meg róla, hogy a hangerő a legmagasabb szinten van a telefonon, és akkor a hangerő növelése gombbal magasabbra kell tudnia állítani a hangerőt a fedélzeten, az enyémnél elég hangos.
google pixel 5 telefonom van ... max hangerő ki van kapcsolva fejlesztői módban..... Rádiót hallgatok 8-10 ha van telefon 22-24 el kell vinni hogy halljam
 

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ha hallgatom a rádiót 8-10 a hangerő ... fel kell venni a hangerőt 22-24- amikor hívsz
hogy normális a hajam....
You really don't understand, do you?
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That is what I see in my English forum.
 

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    OK, I got the answer from atoto support:
    "the model S8G2A75P, the G2 means General 2-din car radio, it doesn't mean the second-generation car radio"
    So beware, the S8G2A75P is a GEN 1 radio.
    I will be returning mine and buying a Gen 2.
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    Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.

    Current lineup:

    S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
    S8 Pro Version S8G2A75P(4GB/32GB)
    S8 Ultra


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    Tips/Notes
    • Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
    • Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
    • The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
    • File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
    • On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.


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    Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
    I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
    I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
    In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
    Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
    This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.

    As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
    Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.

    Items of note that I have found:
    1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
    Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
    There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know

    2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
    This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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    To bad Atoto is not monitoring this thread to help it's customer's a little bit with these type of questions.
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    I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher. I still receive calls through it connected to bluetooth to my cell, but I can't find the app to make calls out.

    With the radio, I have the same back up cam that everyone gets installed and it worked great the first day that I installed it. I put the car in reverse and 3 seconds later I have video. My car sat for 2 days and then when I drove it again, the reverse cam video shows up, but it says no signal and the screen is black. So I know at least the trigger wire works, and it has to be a short in the video cable itself. But every now and then, I get video on the screen.

    I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.

    Google Maps works great, I downloaded over 600MB of offline maps. I don't have a hotspot except when I use my phone, so it is completely shut off from wifi. I can get into some pretty deep woods with it. But sometimes the app gets stuck and you get a white screen and the GPS can't find you. So you have to force stop Google Maps and reload it and hope that the GPS finds you. I'll post up more of my experiences with it as time goes on. But I have to say, this is my 4th Android car stereo and it's really great so far.
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    I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.

    I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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    IThoughts
    Theres a lot of praise for atoto which there should be, this device is much smoother than the A6 and i would say even better value for money if you can get it cheap and sell your A6. However there a few issues that i managed to find in just 30 minutes. BUT damn, this thing is quick, and only £60 more than the A6 sometimes. I dont think ill upgrade again. hopefully i can sell the A6 for a good enough amount to cover the cost of this upgrade.

    1) Z LINK - this does not work well with android auto (ironic this an android head unit). There is a DPI issue, spotify icon does not scale properly, whether thats my p30 pro or the app i am not sure yet. Right hand side does not work for us in the UK, always showing left hand side arrangement.

    2) finger gestures - we should be able to choose this but minor in the grand scheme

    3) AUDIO - oh audio, so much promise. Can definitely be fixed with software updates tho. other asked for help in setting a nice eq setting, so far a smooth v shape from +5 at the low, 0 at the mids and +6 at the high is doing well. There is a catch, turn off audio delay ( the distances are too small to make a difference imo and makes it sound weird, comes set up for left and side tho i believe).
    Subwoofer RCA is 0.8v so be aware. I am not sure how to even amplify such a small signal

    4) in car calls - The new system is SICK. with all the reviews ive seen, i cannot stress how good the s8 handles calls. new pop up is small and out of the way, can pick up and hang up like usual. On top of that you can change weather you want handset or car audio if you want to make a private call! and lastly, floating number pad!!

    5) horsepower - since Z link is for me subpar with AA, i am using headunit reloaded. The a6 could barely handle 720p and it had to be done with software. now i run AA at 720p with hardware acceleration! buttery smooth, feels like it was design by a name brand. I will use Zlink for car play but HUR for AA.

    6) some of my contacts were also delete -_- (Fix: turn off sync for contacts. then roll back changes to your account and hour or to yesterday)