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surfer63

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A colleague says the sound of the phone call is very quiet.
I already understood that as I finally ran it through Google Translate. How would I otherwise know it is Hungarian? That is not the point. This is an English forum and that is even in the forum rules. I assume he is doing it by accident. We have seen that earlier and quite often as well, but he has to change his browser behaviour. He doesn't seem to understand that or doesn't want to understand it.

I do not know if the Atotos function the same, but otherwise he should go into his into his settings and change the sound mix. That sets the initial sound levels for all applications.
 
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I already understood that as I finally ran it through Google Translate. How would I onterwise know it is Hungarian? That is not the point. This is an English forum and that is even in the forum rules. I assume he is doing it by accident. We have seen that earlier and quite often as well, but he has to change his browser behaviour. He doesn't seem to understand that or doesn't want to understand it.

I do not know if the Atotos function the same, but otherwise he should go into his into his settings and change the sound mix. That sets the initial sound levels for all applications.
sorry ..I'll watch the mix ..
 

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I have an issue with mine right now, and cant seem to figure it out

I called someone this evening, when driving down the highway and they said I sound like i was far away, and then it sounded like i had an echo...

I have the external mic hook up, so not sure what would have caused it for them to hear me with a back echo and far away...

Is there anyway to prioritize which mic the calls are going to (external mic, or internal mic aka the one on the headunit by the SD card)... ?

I want/need to make sure that callers can hear me clearly when I am driving, no matter the speed...
 

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I have an issue with mine right now, and cant seem to figure it out

I called someone this evening, when driving down the highway and they said I sound like i was far away, and then it sounded like i had an echo...

I have the external mic hook up, so not sure what would have caused it for them to hear me with a back echo and far away...

Is there anyway to prioritize which mic the calls are going to (external mic, or internal mic aka the one on the headunit by the SD card)... ?

I want/need to make sure that callers can hear me clearly when I am driving, no matter the speed...
In 90% of the FYT units the microphone configuration is not really separated, meaning you need to disable one of them to prevent echos or other unwanted behaviour.
I just posted Yesterday about that in another thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/medeke-navifly-7862.4248969/page-12#post-86341115
And it has been posted earlier as well by multiple persons including myself.
Please search before asking. It saves time for others. This is a FYT forum. Therse units are almost 100% compatible. Don't only look at your own unit. You will miss a lot.
 
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In 90% of the FYT units the microphone configuration is not really separated, meaning you need to disable one of them to prevent echos or other unwanted behaviour.
I just posted Yesterday about that in another thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/medeke-navifly-7862.4248969/page-12#post-86341115
And it has been posted earlier as well by multiple persons including myself.
Please search before asking. It saves time for others. This is a FYT forum. Therse units are almost 100% compatible. Don't only look at your own unit. You will miss a lot.

Thanks, i didnt know that most head units are FYT units... so from what i an reading there, i have to physically disable the internal mic... i wish there was a way to test how the internal mic sounds versus the external so i can determine if it was worth it or not to tear apart my unit...
 

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Anybody know how to get video files off the USB Dashcam/HD DVR onto external storage device please?
 

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Hello everyone, I need some assistance... I am trying for the life of me to get ADB on my atoto s8 premuim, and cannot.

I have dev options on, i set the USB mode from the 3 dots to the 2nd option, made sure that the ADB debugging is turned on in dev options, have installed the latest drivers onto my PC, and have the default usb set to file transfer , and nothing....

I am connected with a high graded USB going from USB C (computer) to USB A phone link on desk, open my adb window and nothing, never shows any connected devices ....

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Also note that my computer doesnt seem to show the device in device manager, but I get a prompt when i connect it via USB that my PC is not able to charge... not sure if that matters...

All i want to do is disable the navbar for gesture navigation so i get some more screen real estate.

Thank in advance for the help!
 

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I guess you already had a look at this thread?

Yea and I did that... I used the 3 dots in the top corner in dev options and choose the 2nd one and still nothing... I saw all that but still can't get tmy surface laptop 3 on windows 11 to detect the head unit
 

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Yes. Not my first rodeo. I'm not new to adb or rooting android. It's gotta be something in the head unit preventing the connection. Or I'm missing a driver? I saw something in another thread about needing mediatexk drivers?
I read somewhere that only one USB port is an OTG port. The others are not. Did you already try the several USB connections?
 

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Ok, i got it figured... I have using a high quality USB C to A and was plugging the A into the head unit and the C into my computer. It was partially detected doing this. Computer would say that it cannot charge.

This morning, I decided to create my own USB A male to USB A male cable, and plugged into the head unit and computer, and boom, computer fully detected it. Was able to ADB device it without issue and was picked up immediately, and was able to run commands.

Now, not sure if this is a limitation of the android version thats on it, or android in general, but what I wanted to do was run the command to nide the navbar/status bar to gain some height in apps when running in split screen (as some of them look funny and are a bit "compressed". So wanted to gain back the couple of pixel at the top.

Well ran the command and the nav/status bar auto hides now on the home screen, and full screen apps, however doesnt when apps are running in split screen mode... So this is where I am at now..

Anyone know how to hive the navbar/status bar completely? Even in split screen?

I have searched an all commands I ran to hide the navbar/status result in the same, so I am thinking its either a limitation of this version of android, or its so customized that something is over riding the hide ADB command.

Anyways, thanks for the help!
 

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    OK, I got the answer from atoto support:
    "the model S8G2A75P, the G2 means General 2-din car radio, it doesn't mean the second-generation car radio"
    So beware, the S8G2A75P is a GEN 1 radio.
    I will be returning mine and buying a Gen 2.
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    Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.

    Current lineup:

    S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
    S8 Pro Version S8G2A75P(4GB/32GB)
    S8 Ultra


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    Tips/Notes
    • Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
    • Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
    • The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
    • File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
    • On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.


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    Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
    I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
    I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
    In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
    Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
    This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.

    As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
    Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.

    Items of note that I have found:
    1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
    Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
    There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know

    2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
    This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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    To bad Atoto is not monitoring this thread to help it's customer's a little bit with these type of questions.
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    I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher. I still receive calls through it connected to bluetooth to my cell, but I can't find the app to make calls out.

    With the radio, I have the same back up cam that everyone gets installed and it worked great the first day that I installed it. I put the car in reverse and 3 seconds later I have video. My car sat for 2 days and then when I drove it again, the reverse cam video shows up, but it says no signal and the screen is black. So I know at least the trigger wire works, and it has to be a short in the video cable itself. But every now and then, I get video on the screen.

    I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.

    Google Maps works great, I downloaded over 600MB of offline maps. I don't have a hotspot except when I use my phone, so it is completely shut off from wifi. I can get into some pretty deep woods with it. But sometimes the app gets stuck and you get a white screen and the GPS can't find you. So you have to force stop Google Maps and reload it and hope that the GPS finds you. I'll post up more of my experiences with it as time goes on. But I have to say, this is my 4th Android car stereo and it's really great so far.
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    I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.

    I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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    IThoughts
    Theres a lot of praise for atoto which there should be, this device is much smoother than the A6 and i would say even better value for money if you can get it cheap and sell your A6. However there a few issues that i managed to find in just 30 minutes. BUT damn, this thing is quick, and only £60 more than the A6 sometimes. I dont think ill upgrade again. hopefully i can sell the A6 for a good enough amount to cover the cost of this upgrade.

    1) Z LINK - this does not work well with android auto (ironic this an android head unit). There is a DPI issue, spotify icon does not scale properly, whether thats my p30 pro or the app i am not sure yet. Right hand side does not work for us in the UK, always showing left hand side arrangement.

    2) finger gestures - we should be able to choose this but minor in the grand scheme

    3) AUDIO - oh audio, so much promise. Can definitely be fixed with software updates tho. other asked for help in setting a nice eq setting, so far a smooth v shape from +5 at the low, 0 at the mids and +6 at the high is doing well. There is a catch, turn off audio delay ( the distances are too small to make a difference imo and makes it sound weird, comes set up for left and side tho i believe).
    Subwoofer RCA is 0.8v so be aware. I am not sure how to even amplify such a small signal

    4) in car calls - The new system is SICK. with all the reviews ive seen, i cannot stress how good the s8 handles calls. new pop up is small and out of the way, can pick up and hang up like usual. On top of that you can change weather you want handset or car audio if you want to make a private call! and lastly, floating number pad!!

    5) horsepower - since Z link is for me subpar with AA, i am using headunit reloaded. The a6 could barely handle 720p and it had to be done with software. now i run AA at 720p with hardware acceleration! buttery smooth, feels like it was design by a name brand. I will use Zlink for car play but HUR for AA.

    6) some of my contacts were also delete -_- (Fix: turn off sync for contacts. then roll back changes to your account and hour or to yesterday)