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snake2332

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The PS2 Slim connected to composite input on my Atoto S8 7" Premium in my '07 Forester XT was fun (takes up the whole glovebox though, and makes my power inverter fan run even with PS2 powered off), but I'm ditching it now that I tried something that I wanted to share with the group:

The PS5 (and probably PS4) gamepad works great on Bluetooth 2 and also via the USB DVR cable. I plugged in an unpaired PS5 gamepad to the USB port and Beach Buggy Racing worked with it immediately and perfectly. I then paired it to BT2 and it also worked perfectly. I tried a couple other games I had installed. Traffic Rider mostly works after setting controls to gamepad. Trials Frontier might or might not work - I haven't sat thru the forced intro yet (I'm a fan of the Trials series). I'll have to try some better driving games and maybe some others that work well with gamepad.

I imagine game compatibility is as expected for PS4/PS5 gamepads on Android. I used to use a program (that required root-access and I can't remember the name of anymore) that would map gamepad buttons/axis to parts of the touchscreen. I used to play Hill Climb Racing 2 a TON and was doing it with a PS4 gamepad for awhile, sitting back and grinding out the coins on an old Android tablet. You could virtually play any Android game with this app, and just navigate around the OS with damn near any gamepad. I see a new app that sounds like it does the same thing called Mantis. I'll check it out and see if it works well.

Next up: Emulators. They'd better give me 8-way DPAD or I'm going to be very upset when I can't slide under the bricks in Super Mario Bros. 1, stage 1-2.
 
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CaptainAdaquit

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note the system is great but the steering wheel control is crap. you only have two wires and that only allows two choosable functions.
Say volume up
Vol down and thats it.
the kit should come with 6 inputs ideally then you could add more controllable functions.
you can choose on a huge menu also but with only 2 inputs your ver y limitedto what you can actually control from the steering wheel.
You can buy an additional remote which does everytrhing so i find this really anoyying when the canbus system is there but the inputs to the actual head unit arent.
for such a complicated unit you would of thought they would have built in canbus control so flick a few dip switches depending on what type of vehicle manafacturer and then you would have the lot.
I have mine hooked up with a PAC adapter, and I have full control function for 2014 Dodge Challenger. Note though, I did have to use a specific wire. Could not use the other wire (brown one), or the 3.5" jack. When I used either of those, I had poor function at best. When I moved it to the other one (orange-ish I think?) it works correctly.
 

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Hi all, I have the S8 Pro (gen1) with the USB dashcam ,all works pretty good(except for the top buttons/nav bar becoming unresponsive!) Anyway does anyone know how to get the dashcam recorded files off and onto an external device, eg. Onto my tablet via Bluetooth ,or into SD card etc. Can't find how to do it through the HD DVR app ,I couldn't find any way to do it through the file manager, and when I removed the microSD from the dash cam and put into tablet ,it showed one file and said the rest of card was empty (there were heaps on there,I had just watched on H/U) it was like it had deleted all files except for one, so I put the card back into dashcam and checked through the S8 and it confirmed all files except one were now gone.
So yeah does anyone know how to transfer theses dashcam files please? Thanks everyone.
Hi, did you find a way?
 
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Ahscotty

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Hi, still looking/working on it. But locking the files may work. Does seem strange cannot copy the files.
Thanks . D
If you do work it out properly can you post the solution back here please, it would be great (logical!) if it just worked with a file explorer onto the SD card in the front of the S8. This is a feature I would like to utilise, rather than recording the footage with a phone while it's being played back on the H/U screen.
Cheers
 

Dudetoo2

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If you do work it out properly can you post the solution back here please, it would be great (logical!) if it just worked with a file explorer onto the SD card in the front of the S8. This is a feature I would like to utilise, rather than recording the footage with a phone while it's being played back on the H/U screen.
Cheers
Hi. Will do. I have email atoto support as well. Stay Safe. D
 

badwhip

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is there any autostart app programs that work with the s8 ultra to auto start apps? the only app that auto starts after reboot is the one i assign in the factory settings.
 

Colemanuk82

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I had agamma as my home launcher for months and now it loads no longer as default. Even resetting as default app I have no luck
Any ideas how to fix it?
 

uniboy9

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I have everything working.. Except.... When android auto and Google maps or waze are running if I am using the fm radio, the voice guidence does not come through. If I run google maps from the non android auto, it works as expected. I tried disabling bluetooth guidence and it did not work.

Any suggestions?
I have a similar problem I think when I use the Torque app and some navigation apps I've tried. I have set up voice warnings for over temperature etc and they dont play when the radio is playing but work fine if the radio is off or I am listening to music on the music player. I contacted ATOTO and was told that some apps like Torque use the same thing as the radio to produce the voice warnings and the two cant work at the same time. They are trying to find a solution and if they do it will be released in a future update.

It might be a good idea to put in a request to ATOTO to have your problem fixed. If enough people complain then they might actually fix it.
 

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If that was a gen2 unit, maybe they fixed that issue because my BT audio sounds good, thankfully!

I just tested the volume balance settings. None of the sliders seem to affect Carplay (and BT audio I believe). However, setting radio to the lowest level and the rest at 10 seems balanced to me. The radio was amplified too much before - audio was clipping I'm pretty sure. No clue why they have it set to 10 by default. Once radio was adjusted down, I compared it to Carplay and it was close to the same. I fired up the Playstation2 connected to AUX and it sounded balanced even though AUX was at 10. I don't think the effective overall volume is reduced, which is good because this unit BARELY gets loud enough at max volume. I'm kind of glad because it's my kids car and I don't want them damaging their hearing. I'm also used to my aftermarket amp and speakers in my other car, where 50% volume hurts your eardrums.

In summary, I need to test other sources, but it appears that Radio is the main one that's out of whack and needs to be turned down.
On my unit the radio volume would always default to 10 in the volume balance settings after a restart, no matter what I set it to. None of the settings for the other options seem to make any difference. I asked ATOTO about it and they said they were aware of the default radio volume issue and had rectified it in the current software update. So I updated the software and now the radio volume mix stays where I set it. However none of the other settings still seem to make any difference.

I'm using Sygic as my navigation software and the spoken instructions were really soft. The only way I could increase the volume was to adjust the volume during a phone call. For some reason the navigation volume also increased after that. Adjusting the navigation volume in the volume mixer screen made no difference.
 

Colemanuk82

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So I fixed my problem by rooting the head unit with this file(not made by me) and disabling launcher 2. Seems to boot up quicker too
 

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tiegerMP

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I purchased the ATOTO S8 Ultra Double Din 7 Inch Android Car in-Dash Navigation, and the ATOTO AC-44P2 1080P USB DVR On-Dash Camera. I am in process of installing both.


I am having an issue as I don’t how to plug the camera into the S8 head unit. The camera has a USB end while the head unit has a slot that is for round RCA type plug marked at the back of the head unit as front camera input..... Is there suppose to be an adapter cable? I bought both off of Amazon and the posting stated the two where compatible……… Do I plug the camera into one of the 4 usb extension plugs?

Thanks
 

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recentemente comprei uma s8 ger. 2 , mas fui fazer uma atualização e a tela está travada com a escrita : GOOGLE , já dei um reset e e baixei os arquivos para atualizar , mas ela não entra em modo de atualização , alguem tem uma informação á respeito ?

Mod translation: I recently bought an s8 ger. 2 , but I went to do an update and the screen is stuck with the writing : GOOGLE , I already gave a reset and downloaded the files to update , but it does not go into update mode , does anyone have any information about it ?
 
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recentemente comprei uma s8 ger. 2 , mas fui fazer uma atualização e a tela está travada com a escrita : GOOGLE , já dei um reset e e baixei os arquivos para atualizar , mas ela não entra em modo de atualização , alguem tem uma informação á respeito ?
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If you look at my profile, you will see actually inform and, help other members rather than report them. I will only report in certain cases. This could be a mistake on the members end and, I just wanted to inform the member of the mistake.
The report appears to have resolved it. I doubt the NM gives one tbh, when signing the rules clearly outline what is expected.
 
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    If you look at my profile, you will see actually inform and, help other members rather than report them. I will only report in certain cases. This could be a mistake on the members end and, I just wanted to inform the member of the mistake.
    The report appears to have resolved it. I doubt the NM gives one tbh, when signing the rules clearly outline what is expected.
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    Did they happen to say what was updated?

    Did they happen to say what was updated?
    Nope. The screen shot that I posted here was all that I received from them. I haven't updated yet because I have been looking around my place for a sd card or thumb drive.
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    According to the book I have on the S8 BT2 is for tethering
    I would say it's more of the native BT connection for everything other than a phone. It works with gamepads, kb and mouse, dashcam, tethering, etc. BT1 is specifically controlled by the Atoto software and is like hidden from Android.
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    You have a shop there who has Atoto ?
    I want android auto yes, something ergonomic too like the atoto, around 300 maybe 400€ max and I have a Sandero.
    Got mine off Amazon.
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    @uniboy9 , as per our last conversation I updated the unit yesterday with the file ATOTO sent me. It was actually 20 files also btw. I did notice that Android auto wireless connects as soon as I turn on my jeep. Before the update it would say waiting for connection for a few seconds before connecting. Not any more though. The radio does seem a little snappier with response in a few other areas. I will have to keep playing with it to see if any other know improvements are noticed.
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    Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.

    Current lineup:

    S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
    S8 Pro Version S8G2A75P(4GB/32GB)
    S8 Ultra


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    Tips/Notes
    • Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
    • Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
    • The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
    • File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
    • On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.


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    Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
    I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
    I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
    In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
    Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
    This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.

    As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
    Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.

    Items of note that I have found:
    1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
    Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
    There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know

    2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
    This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.
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    To bad Atoto is not monitoring this thread to help it's customer's a little bit with these type of questions.
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    I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher. I still receive calls through it connected to bluetooth to my cell, but I can't find the app to make calls out.

    With the radio, I have the same back up cam that everyone gets installed and it worked great the first day that I installed it. I put the car in reverse and 3 seconds later I have video. My car sat for 2 days and then when I drove it again, the reverse cam video shows up, but it says no signal and the screen is black. So I know at least the trigger wire works, and it has to be a short in the video cable itself. But every now and then, I get video on the screen.

    I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.

    Google Maps works great, I downloaded over 600MB of offline maps. I don't have a hotspot except when I use my phone, so it is completely shut off from wifi. I can get into some pretty deep woods with it. But sometimes the app gets stuck and you get a white screen and the GPS can't find you. So you have to force stop Google Maps and reload it and hope that the GPS finds you. I'll post up more of my experiences with it as time goes on. But I have to say, this is my 4th Android car stereo and it's really great so far.
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    I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.

    I'm still waiting on my S8 Pro to arrive but I was looking through a thread for must have apps for android head units and this comment suggested AutoStart - No root. Hopefully this helps you, or it looks like there's plenty on the Play Store to try out.
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    IThoughts
    Theres a lot of praise for atoto which there should be, this device is much smoother than the A6 and i would say even better value for money if you can get it cheap and sell your A6. However there a few issues that i managed to find in just 30 minutes. BUT damn, this thing is quick, and only £60 more than the A6 sometimes. I dont think ill upgrade again. hopefully i can sell the A6 for a good enough amount to cover the cost of this upgrade.

    1) Z LINK - this does not work well with android auto (ironic this an android head unit). There is a DPI issue, spotify icon does not scale properly, whether thats my p30 pro or the app i am not sure yet. Right hand side does not work for us in the UK, always showing left hand side arrangement.

    2) finger gestures - we should be able to choose this but minor in the grand scheme

    3) AUDIO - oh audio, so much promise. Can definitely be fixed with software updates tho. other asked for help in setting a nice eq setting, so far a smooth v shape from +5 at the low, 0 at the mids and +6 at the high is doing well. There is a catch, turn off audio delay ( the distances are too small to make a difference imo and makes it sound weird, comes set up for left and side tho i believe).
    Subwoofer RCA is 0.8v so be aware. I am not sure how to even amplify such a small signal

    4) in car calls - The new system is SICK. with all the reviews ive seen, i cannot stress how good the s8 handles calls. new pop up is small and out of the way, can pick up and hang up like usual. On top of that you can change weather you want handset or car audio if you want to make a private call! and lastly, floating number pad!!

    5) horsepower - since Z link is for me subpar with AA, i am using headunit reloaded. The a6 could barely handle 720p and it had to be done with software. now i run AA at 720p with hardware acceleration! buttery smooth, feels like it was design by a name brand. I will use Zlink for car play but HUR for AA.

    6) some of my contacts were also delete -_- (Fix: turn off sync for contacts. then roll back changes to your account and hour or to yesterday)