Atoto S8 General Discussion
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I think you can use any reversing camera you want. Just has to be plugged into the RCAM video port.
Afraid I don't know since I don't have a iphone. I would guess though that you would not be able to since Car Play is controlling the head unit and if it's not already on the phone, I don't see how you would add it.
So the bloody launcher3 keep reasserting itself over AGAMA. So since I was rooted, I disabled the Launcher3 app.
Instructions if you are rooted:
Make sure you have another launcher installed such as AGAMA as you will be disabling the stock launcher that comes from ATOTO.
Start ADB Wireless on the head unit.
Use App Inspector from the Play Store to find the app's true name, or I used linux to find anything with the word "launcher":
So launcher3, launcher6, and launcher8 need to be disabled. Run:
Make sure that they are disabled:
Now AGAMA is the only launcher and the head unit and I am happy.
To re-enable the stock launcher run:
Instructions if you are rooted:
Make sure you have another launcher installed such as AGAMA as you will be disabling the stock launcher that comes from ATOTO.
Start ADB Wireless on the head unit.
Use App Inspector from the Play Store to find the app's true name, or I used linux to find anything with the word "launcher":
adb shell pm list packages | grep launcher So launcher3, launcher6, and launcher8 need to be disabled. Run:
adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.android.launcher3 adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.android.launcher6 adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.android.launcher8 Make sure that they are disabled:
adb shell pm list packages -d Now AGAMA is the only launcher and the head unit and I am happy.
To re-enable the stock launcher run:
adb shell pm enable com.android.launcher3 adb shell pm enable com.android.launcher6 adb shell pm enable com.android.launcher8
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I had a problem updating my S8 Premium 10" with the rooted firmware. The unit booted up in portrait mode and it made the launcher unusable. After searching all over the place for a way to rotate the screen (even in the secret menu), I found someone else suggested on a different Android HU to put the following in config.txt and place that on the sd card when flashing:
Code:
ro.sf.swrotation = 90I wonder if the Ultra does not have that problem. My screen stayed in landscape mode after flashing.
I emailed Yolanda at ATOTO about the Home Launcher not sticking and she gave me a link for a firmware dated 2022-09-22.
I'll root it and give it a go on my unit in the next few days.
I'll root it and give it a go on my unit in the next few days.
I think once you are rooted you can install Viper 4 Android without any issues. I don't think I want to start making changes to the ROM other than patching the boot.img allow root.
So the Java signing tool to sign the zip file in order for it to flash does not appear to be working on this version. I flashed it without rooting it and it flashed fine. As a bonus, the Home Launcher appears to properly stick now. I rebooted a few times and turned it off and on and every time the AGAMA launcher started up like it should.
Note: Flashing 2022-09-22 erases your data again so you loose all your settings. In addition I had to clear the data for the Google Play Store/Services in order for the Play Store to work again as it was getting an error.
Note: Flashing 2022-09-22 erases your data again so you loose all your settings. In addition I had to clear the data for the Google Play Store/Services in order for the Play Store to work again as it was getting an error.
What S8 model do you have? Didn't see 9-22 one for the ultra g2
Have you tried rooting the 8.11.22?
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I have the 7" G2 Ultra. I did not try rooting the 20220811 version. The Home Launcher pinning seems to be working now as AGAMA comes up every time.
Link to the firmware provided by Yolanda for the Ultra:
Link to the firmware provided by Yolanda for the Ultra:
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5Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.
Current lineup:
S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
S8 Pro Version S8G2A75P(4GB/32GB)
S8 Ultra
Tips/Notes- Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
- Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
- The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
- File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
- On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.
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Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.
As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.
Items of note that I have found:
1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know
2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.3Guys, there's a new radio app available for the Atoto S8!!! I already tested this and it actually works!
It's the only radio app besides the native one (well and any from other FYT head units) that actually works with our head unit.
2I have the S8 standard, I've been running and messing with it for about a week now. The stock launcher, the icons are way too big and there's no way to resize them, so I installed Google Now Launcher and the icons are smaller and I can stack 2 rows on the bottom of the screen. The only issue that I'm having with the launcher is that the Phone app is gone. It's not onscreen and it's not in the app drawer. It's like it disappeared when I installed the new launcher. I still receive calls through it connected to bluetooth to my cell, but I can't find the app to make calls out.
With the radio, I have the same back up cam that everyone gets installed and it worked great the first day that I installed it. I put the car in reverse and 3 seconds later I have video. My car sat for 2 days and then when I drove it again, the reverse cam video shows up, but it says no signal and the screen is black. So I know at least the trigger wire works, and it has to be a short in the video cable itself. But every now and then, I get video on the screen.
I'm guessing there's no way to set certain apps to load on startup. I'd like to turn on the car and the radio app just turns on and plays, but it defaults to the the home screen and I have to load the radio app. I don't use the radio widget, I use the icon to bring up the full screen version of the radio. Once the radio app is running, I have a habit of hitting the back button and it turns the radio app off. So I have to get used to hitting the home button after I load it so it goes back to the home screen.
Google Maps works great, I downloaded over 600MB of offline maps. I don't have a hotspot except when I use my phone, so it is completely shut off from wifi. I can get into some pretty deep woods with it. But sometimes the app gets stuck and you get a white screen and the GPS can't find you. So you have to force stop Google Maps and reload it and hope that the GPS finds you. I'll post up more of my experiences with it as time goes on. But I have to say, this is my 4th Android car stereo and it's really great so far.2IThoughts
Theres a lot of praise for atoto which there should be, this device is much smoother than the A6 and i would say even better value for money if you can get it cheap and sell your A6. However there a few issues that i managed to find in just 30 minutes. BUT damn, this thing is quick, and only £60 more than the A6 sometimes. I dont think ill upgrade again. hopefully i can sell the A6 for a good enough amount to cover the cost of this upgrade.
1) Z LINK - this does not work well with android auto (ironic this an android head unit). There is a DPI issue, spotify icon does not scale properly, whether thats my p30 pro or the app i am not sure yet. Right hand side does not work for us in the UK, always showing left hand side arrangement.
2) finger gestures - we should be able to choose this but minor in the grand scheme
3) AUDIO - oh audio, so much promise. Can definitely be fixed with software updates tho. other asked for help in setting a nice eq setting, so far a smooth v shape from +5 at the low, 0 at the mids and +6 at the high is doing well. There is a catch, turn off audio delay ( the distances are too small to make a difference imo and makes it sound weird, comes set up for left and side tho i believe).
Subwoofer RCA is 0.8v so be aware. I am not sure how to even amplify such a small signal
4) in car calls - The new system is SICK. with all the reviews ive seen, i cannot stress how good the s8 handles calls. new pop up is small and out of the way, can pick up and hang up like usual. On top of that you can change weather you want handset or car audio if you want to make a private call! and lastly, floating number pad!!
5) horsepower - since Z link is for me subpar with AA, i am using headunit reloaded. The a6 could barely handle 720p and it had to be done with software. now i run AA at 720p with hardware acceleration! buttery smooth, feels like it was design by a name brand. I will use Zlink for car play but HUR for AA.
6) some of my contacts were also delete -_- (Fix: turn off sync for contacts. then roll back changes to your account and hour or to yesterday)
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