Atoto S8 General Discussion

[Herculezz]

Hello, I have recently bought the Atoto s8 ultra plus gen 2, so far I really like the device with a few caveats and I'm hoping maybe someone here can help with maybe a workaround or havk or something to get around my issues.

1- No notification sounds whatsoever, I really need these for my purposes, any one know of a way to enable this?

2 - is there a way to where when I turn off my car for a short amount of time like 5-10 mins I would like the stereo to not kill my apps I have up and running maybe for like an hour or some set time? Is this possible in any way?

3 - Whenever I have my phone connected to BT and I do a video chat with someone it locks me to the phone app, I don't want this.

Other than this and one other app saying it needs location when it already has it, this device is great, not sure why this being there best device they don't offer it in at least 1080 if not 2k lol.

 

[dishe2]

Hello, I have recently bought the Atoto s8 ultra plus gen 2, so far I really like the device with a few caveats and I'm hoping maybe someone here can help with maybe a workaround or havk or something to get around my issues.

1- No notification sounds whatsoever, I really need these for my purposes, any one know of a way to enable this?

Do you mean from the phone or from the OS? The way the unit handles BT audio, it's considered a "source" much like the aux input, radio tuner, etc. If you switch to another source it will mute the last one. If you're on Bt1, you'll hear your phone notifications. If you switch to any other "source", all those notifications are silenced.

I actually don't like this as well. I've been talking with their support reps about finding a way around it- so far we have an experimental setup that's sort-of-almost-close to what I want it to do, but not quite there yet.
The other option is to use carlink instead of BT1, since Android Auto / Carplay works inside this app and is considered a system sound like any other sound Android would play regardless of "source" mode. But I don't always want to connect my phone (wired is an extra hassle and wireless sucks my battery), so really I want to get the BT working. I can go into detail re: what we are trying to do and how but it's beyond the scope of what I want to type here.

2 - is there a way to where when I turn off my car for a short amount of time like 5-10 mins I would like the stereo to not kill my apps I have up and running maybe for like an hour or some set time? Is this possible in any way?

Yes, there's actually a firmware kernel you can flash from a guy here named Mario Dantas which can prevent apps from closing in sleep. It's got a lot of other goodies as well and overall makes the unit feel smoother. Its on XDA here.

3 - Whenever I have my phone connected to BT and I do a video chat with someone it locks me to the phone app, I don't want this.

Yes, this is because it considers it a call and the assumption is all calls take priority over anything else on screen. This should be the case even if regular call and not video. The only exception is when using maps. You could also get around this by using Carlink for CP/AA, but not ideal for the reasons mentioned earlier.

Other than this and one other app saying it needs location when it already has it, this device is great, not sure why this being there best device they don't offer it in at least 1080 if not 2k lol.

Because at this size and implementation, the resolution wouldn't really benefit much. My 7" unit isn't even 720p (I think it's 600), only the larger size ones are 720 and I didn't even know when comparing them side by side. You're not supposed to be pixel peeping a car radio lol, I don't think major car AV brands offer anything that high for the same reason, and they cost significantly more.

 

[Herculezz]

Tyvm for the info, it's all good, butnfor the notification sounds I'm referring to the notifications on the radio itself not the phone, like from apps I'm running on the radio

 

[scorpio76r]

I'm under the assumption it works with all 7862 platforms

7862/8581 FYT Factory by Mario Dantas

I have been using this for awhile now and, I wanted to thank you again for this info you shared here. I works perfectly. I can't understand who would use the radio without this mod. Connection is smooth and quick. I also found that unistalling Google maps on my phone and, just keeping Waze on my phone makes Waze work great wirelessly on my radio. I have no connection issues after this mod. I wish I had of installed this mod long ago but, oh well I have it now and, I'm good to go.I thank Heaven for Xda and, all of the knowledgeable people here like yourself.

 

[03hdfatboy]

I have been using this for awhile now and, I wanted to thank you again for this info you shared here. I works perfectly. I can't understand who would use the radio without this mod. Connection is smooth and quick. I also found that unistalling Google maps on my phone and, just keeping Waze on my phone makes Waze work great wirelessly on my radio. I have no connection issues after this mod. I wish I had of installed this mod long ago but, oh well I have it now and, I'm good to go.I thank Heaven for Xda and, all of the knowledgeable people here like yourself.

First of all All the credit is Mario's not mine.
My S8G2 was extremely inconsistent, sometimes at work like it was supposed to but most of the time I spent my ride to work trying to get it to connect to my phone it was very frustrating. After I installed Mario’s firmware I’ve had issues only a few times.
When that happens I just press the reset button, Wait to reboot and all is well again. I think it’s an apple CP glitch. Will show waiting for device then connection approved, but immediately go back to waiting for device to connect like it’s stuck in a loop. not sure what to do about that, but still 10 times better than what it was. I sat ACP up with NoKill and set CarLink app to auto start and didn’t seem to make any difference. I have noticed every time I installed a third-party launcher, carlink will go to crap. BT-1 is supposed to be for phone and BT music. CarLink uses wifi or USB feathering. I noticed before Mario I would have to turn BT-1 off, wait for wifi to connect then turn it back on to get CarPlay to work. Either way you do it you cannot use your phone to connect HU to the Internet if you are using CarLink .

 

[rolbx333]

hello,

i have a atoto s8g2a75p. Is there a (costum) firmware for the device with which google auto wireless works?

thank you!

 

[dishe2]

hello,

i have a atoto s8g2a75p. Is there a (costum) firmware for the device with which google auto wireless works?

thank you!

I'm not sure what Google Auto Wireless is, but there's Android Auto Wireless which works with their official updates as of almost a year ago.
It's gotten pretty good, too!

 

[rolbx333]

I'm not sure what Google Auto Wireless is, but there's Android Auto Wireless which works with their official updates as of almost a year ago.
It's gotten pretty good, too!

With the Build Number 10.2 firmware?

 

[dishe2]

I don't know the build numbers because I think they might differ from individual variants (Ultra vs Standard vs etc), but the firmware dated at the end of December 2021 added the functionality, and it's been out of Beta since I think at least March of 2022.
The firmware it ships from the factory with is often the earlier ones so they recommend you do an update when you ask customer service about it.

There's a whole changelog on their website as of recently, they started sharing that with users if you own one of their products and download an update for it.

 

[dishe2]

BTW, relevant to us Atoto users: If you haven't tried VIVID launcher recently, it's worth trying again now.
It was originally designed for a different radio type (not FYT), but over time they added compatibility with more hardware.
I just tried it again on my Atoto S8 Ultra and for the first time ever, my audio sources work the way I expected them to from the factory!
If you play something from a connected bluetooth phone, it will automatically switch to BT as a source and pause local playback! And their music widget acts a universal control for anything that is playing, whether it is Spotify, youtube, Bluetooth streaming, etc.

I've been asking Atoto for this since I first tried their head unit, I was ready to give up thinking it'll never happen!

 

[scorpio76r]

hello,

i have a atoto s8g2a75p. Is there a (costum) firmware for the device with which google auto wireless works?

thank you!

I'm using the custom firmware provided a few pages back. I get what you mean, you have an android phone. That firmware works flawlessly. I have had issues with stock firmware that I don't have with this firmware.

 

[dishe2]

I'm using the custom firmware provided a few pages back. I get what you mean, you have an android phone. That firmware works flawlessly. I have had issues with stock firmware that I don't have with this firmware.

That isn't a firmware, it's a kernel with some tweaks.
If he's asking for a rom that supports wireless AA, the stock one does it. If he downloads Mario's kernel but his rom still isn't one of the modern ones that supports wireless AA, it still won't work. The kernel just has some tweaks that change how background tasks are handled, it won't introduce CarLink features his rom doesn't already have.

 

[rolbx333]

That isn't a firmware, it's a kernel with some tweaks.
If he's asking for a rom that supports wireless AA, the stock one does it. If he downloads Mario's kernel but his rom still isn't one of the modern ones that supports wireless AA, it still won't work. The kernel just has some tweaks that change how background tasks are handled, it won't introduce CarLink features his rom doesn't already have.

OK, my Rom has No car link. The S8G2A75P ist a gen1 device.

 

[scorpio76r]

That isn't a firmware, it's a kernel with some tweaks.
If he's asking for a rom that supports wireless AA, the stock one does it. If he downloads Mario's kernel but his rom still isn't one of the modern ones that supports wireless AA, it still won't work. The kernel just has some tweaks that change how background tasks are handled, it won't introduce CarLink features his rom doesn't already have.

You are correct, I misread the post.

 

[dishe2]

OK, my Rom has No car link. The S8G2A75P ist a gen1 device.

It's in the titles. S8g2 means gen 2. CarLink is the name of the app internally that enables Carplay and Android Auto. Version 2.0 supports wireless.

If you have a gen 2, you have it. There isn't a rom without it afaik. Good luck figuring out what you are trying to do.

 

[rolbx333]

It's in the titles. S8g2 means gen 2. CarLink is the name of the app internally that enables Carplay and Android Auto. Version 2.0 supports wireless.

If you have a gen 2, you have it. There isn't a rom without it afaik. Good luck figuring out what you are trying to do.

Only assumption is this model... it really is a Gen1 model. atoto confirmed this to me again

 

[j0hn83]

Only assumption is this model... it really is a Gen1 model. atoto confirmed this to me again

The update page for that device definitely says gen 1

It's based on an older chipset than the gen 2 devices, still running Android 8.1, so no idea if wireless android auto is possible.

 

[dishe2]

ahhh you are right, that is a gen 1 devices. I'm so sorry, no I don't think there's support for Carlink 2.0 on that hardware.
The FYT devices that have compatibility are the UIS 7862/8581, and it requires working with the specific bluetooth/wifi hardware as well (it's not just an app, it's tied into things integrated into the system). It's possible but as far as I know no one has done it and there is not enough demand for anyone to have reserve engineered it.

 

[03hdfatboy]

BTW, relevant to us Atoto users: If you haven't tried VIVID launcher recently, it's worth trying again now.
It was originally designed for a different radio type (not FYT), but over time they added compatibility with more hardware.
I just tried it again on my Atoto S8 Ultra and for the first time ever, my audio sources work the way I expected them to from the factory!
If you play something from a connected bluetooth phone, it will automatically switch to BT as a source and pause local playback! And their music widget acts a universal control for anything that is playing, whether it is Spotify, youtube, Bluetooth streaming, etc.

I've been asking Atoto for this since I first tried their head unit, I was ready to give up thinking it'll never happen!

I tried it a few months ago it worked ok as far as launchers go. I usually keep mine on Apple Car Play, so it was unnecessary. Might give it another go

 

[scorpie67]

Hi,

i want to upgrade the firmware of the S8 Ultra Gen 2, but no matter if I use a sd card or usb stick (ext, fat32, ntfs) nothing happens after I insert it. The files are directly under root.
I have an older firmware with some config files, with this the popup for the firmware pops up a complete reset happens but the firmware afterwards is still the same.

Is there a way to force the upgrade

Thanks

Well, the firmware I get is for Gen2, mine is gen1. Would someone patch the firmware for me and sign it, please. My English is too bad to understand exactly what to do. I found the latest firmware for it.