Atoto S8 General Discussion

[vintagephone]

I recently got a 2011 Honda CR-V, and I am choosing either the S8 Pro, Ultra, or Ultra Plus. Is there a noticeable difference of responsiveness within these 3 in head units? Like is the Ultra noticeably faster than the Pro, and is the Ultra Plus noticeably faster than the Ultra?

Be sure to notice the difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 units.

 

[vintagephone]

I have a new unit S8 Ultra Gen2. It's still on the bench.
Power drain with ACC removed is about 11mA.
Updating now to System 2022-03-24 From an SD card.
Update from here:

ATOTO

resources.myatoto.com

Since I haven't used the unit yet, I cannot really comment on the update, except that it seemed to install without trouble.

I did get a chmod error at the end of the install, in red,
Does this look like a problem?

Note I followed the directions in green on the screen above and removed the SD card. The unit noticed that and rebooted.


"About Device" Screens after update:

 

[scorpio76r]

I have a new unit S8 Ultra Gen2. It's still on the bench.
Power drain with ACC removed is about 11mA.
Updating now to System 2022-03-24 From an SD card.
Update from here:

ATOTO

resources.myatoto.com

Since I haven't used the unit yet, I cannot really comment on the update, except that it seemed to install without trouble.

I did get a chmod error at the end of the install, in red,
Does this look like a problem?

"About Device" Screens after update:

That's normal. You won't have any problems.

 

[vintagephone]

That's normal. You won't have any problems.

Thanks, I figured it likely meant the file didn't exist... but I'm easily spooked by errors, especially in red. ;-)

 

[Magus17]

How would I be able to add dual booting on an s8 ultra? I want to run Linux on it for fun

 

[adamtheman23]

Welcome! Please feel free to ask for help or share your experience with the Atoto S8 line of head units.

Current lineup:

S8 Standard S8G2A71S(2GB/16GB)
S8 Pro Version S8G2A75P(4GB/32GB)
S8 Ultra

Tips/Notes​

• Ensure your Google contacts are backed up if you allow the HU to access them. It has been known to delete them. You can disable Contact Sync from the Accounts section in Settings.
• Developer Options can be enabled via the repeated clicking under 'About', but to access the menu, you need a play store program that will take you directly to it. A lot of alternative launchers provide a way to access them.
• The ONLY USB connection that USB debugging works on is USB1 --> Phone Link. For it to work, you need to change the "computer connection" to whatever the SECOND option is [untranslated]. This can be selected from the top right menu in Developer Options
• File down the very end, outer part of the wire harness clip, and it will go in all the way and latch like it's supposed it. Just needs to clear the casing by 1/16" or less.
• On at least the first batch of S8's there is a chance the RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect and need swapped. The labels are incorrect.

A6 Help Thread​

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Just got mine in this afternoon and installed it in my 86 Ford truck this evening. Prior to that I set it up via the AC adapter (sold separately).
I know there are a lot more fleshed out reviews out there but here's my take on it.
I really liked the A6Y Pro. It started out really strong and for 95% of the time it did what was needed. When you consider it's a head unit so it encompasses a lot more than just an Android tablet, it really is impressive. Everything it did, it did well - it just did it kind of slowly. It got pretty sluggish at times when trying to switch between a lot of apps and installing apps from the app store was painfully slow. It should be noted that in just the normal run of the mill drive when you are listening to a single music/radio app or navigation it did great. It was really just when I was sitting in my truck messing with it that one noticed these things. So take those complaints as being a tad bit critical.
In comes the S8. I didn't have any plans of getting the S8 initially but since I am still working on the interior of the truck I am restoring I felt like it made sense to get the latest version before finalizing the wiring and dash.
Right off the bat, it's noticeably faster and more responsive. I could install my apps from the app store about as fast as I could click them. Even the cold boot wasn't much slower than my phone (A6Y Pro would go through the 'Optimizing app' process every time and that took awhile). The status bar has changed quite a bit in that the navigation is at the top left vs the bottom. The three primary buttons work really well there and the split screen feature works slick.
This is a personal preference but while I like the new status bar approach, I wouldn't mind seeing a way to style it differently. I am not a huge fan of colors up there like is seen when a phone is connected.

As I said, there are better video reviews out there but let me just say that if you have the A6Y and feel like you are pushing it, the S8 is the answer for you.
Additionally the Atoto support team is very quick to respond (realize that hours may differ from where you are) and is extremely helpful. That's a huge plus especially with the S8 being fairly new to market.

Items of note that I have found:
1. LastPass and FCC Launcher.
Both need Accessibility Services but when trying to grant them and click OK I am unable to due to a message of: "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, Settings can't verify your response"
There may be other apps that will run into this issue also or if someone has tried either one of these and they don't have the issue granting it, please let me know

2. RCA Rear and Front outputs are incorrect
This one threw me for a minute. I am using the RCA FR and FL for my door component speaks and am joining the RR and RL for my Hideaway sub. Turns out in the first shipment of S8's the ports are backwards so you will need to hook the Fronts to the RL/RR and vice versa. I am told that the next shipment will have this resolved. Those are the only RCA outputs I have used so far as the male part of my rear view camera RCA cable fell off when removing the A6Y Pro so I have to wait for a new connector to come in so I can repair it.

I have a question, i have the 7-Inch S8 Premium touch screen and its the non 3G/4G version. Is there any way to get a USB TO LAN Adapter or 4G/LTE USB Device to work with it?

has anyone tried it

 

[workino]

I have a question, i have the 7-Inch S8 Premium touch screen and its the non 3G/4G version. Is there any way to get a USB TO LAN Adapter or 4G/LTE USB Device to work with it?

has anyone tried it

Better to use a little LTE router via WiFi instead to connect something on USB. In this way, you are going to remove any "driver" problem for the hardware.

Example hardware:
D-Link DWR-933 or Zyxel WAH7601

 

[honeker64@gmail.com]

hello back to the factory head unit that you know enough..atoto went into the soup knows a lot but isn't for anything

 

[Cyscrofer]

Hi guys.
Atoto S8 Pro.

OK trying to set up steering controls using a canbus interface and the 2 steering key wires.
When I program them up on the screen I can only get 2 switches to program....
For example vol up vol down.
No problem however my mercedes viano also on the same steering wheel button has call and cancel call buttons as well.
As soon as I try to program any thing else other the the first 2 switches (volume up down) the next switch say call button the automatically cancels one of the volum buttons.

Meaning I can only have 2 controls on the system.

How can I add the extra 2 buttons making a total of 4 button control with only 2 input wires on the unit???

Its driving me mad.

 

[scorpio76r]

Hi guys.
Atoto S8 Pro.

OK trying to set up steering controls using a canbus interface and the 2 steering key wires.
When I program them up on the screen I can only get 2 switches to program....
For example vol up vol down.
No problem however my mercedes viano also on the same steering wheel button has call and cancel call buttons as well.
As soon as I try to program any thing else other the the first 2 switches (volume up down) the next switch say call button the automatically cancels one of the volum buttons.

Meaning I can only have 2 controls on the system.

How can I add the extra 2 buttons making a total of 4 button control with only 2 input wires on the unit???

Its driving me mad.

Just curious, have you tried for example tying to hang up wires into the volume down to see what happens if you long press a button vs just tapping the other button?

 

[dishe2]

Does Bluetooth only reconnect to the last phone used? My wife and I share the car, and she told me recently her phone wasn't connecting when she drives anymore. So I went into settings under the phone shortcut, saw the list of paired handsets, and manually clicked to connect to hers. All was good until next time I drove the car myself. My phone wasn't connecting either, until I went into the list of paired devices and clicked my phone name.
This is silly, shouldn't it attempt to connect to other previously paired devices if the first isn't found like every other bluetooth player?
We upgraded from an Atoto F7, and the F7 used to connect to whoever was currently driving (although if I didn't drive last, there was a slight delay if I recall correctly).

 

[vintagephone]

Atoto S8 Ultra Gen 2 (S8G2A78UL-N)
with: Android 10 build QP1A.190711.020

Having trouble with some apps seeing a drive on the external USB ports.
I read some software bits might be missing and to install "Files" by Google. I tried that, and it cannot access the USB drive either:

One of the apps, Poweramp music player gives this error:
No Activity found to handle intent { act=android.intent.action.OPEN_DOCUMENT_TREE (has extras)}

Note I get the same error in Poweramp's legacy mode.

Also note that some apps, like Atoto's file manager, Blackplayer and Rocket player CAN see the USB drive and play the music files. But strangely Google's Files app and Poweramp cannot.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

 

[scorpio76r]

Atoto S8 Ultra Gen 2 (S8G2A78UL-N)
with: Android 10 build QP1A.190711.020

Having trouble with some apps seeing a drive on the external USB ports.
I read some software bits might be missing and to install "Files" by Google. I tried that, and it cannot access the USB drive either:
View attachment 5625199

One of the apps, Poweramp music player gives this error:
No Activity found to handle intent { act=android.intent.action.OPEN_DOCUMENT_TREE (has extras)}
View attachment 5625201
Note I get the same error in Poweramp's legacy mode.

Also note that some apps, like Atoto's file manager, Blackplayer and Rocket player CAN see the USB drive and play the music files. But strangely Google's Files app and Poweramp cannot.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

I have noticed this when I tried to do a software update awhile ago. I instead used a SD card instead and, it worked perfectly.

 

[vintagephone]

Yeah, well I want to use the external USB, but maybe I'll test the SD "for science". LoL.
Anyone have a tip on how to get it working? It's clearly a software thing...

 

[mastrv]

@vintagephone I believe your issue can be solved using one of the items listed in the first post of the https://xdaforums.com/t/general-fyt...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/

I'm not sure if your unit falls under / relates to that post, but I don't think it will hurt to try. There is a reference to DocumentsUI. It's an APK and if there is an issue, you should be able to uninstall it, I think.

Maybe someone else can say whether or not this would help. Or, you can try it yourself.

Remember, anything you do is your own responsibility.

Good luck

 

[vintagephone]

@vintagephone

I'm not sure if your unit falls under / relates to that post, but I don't think it will hurt to try. There is a reference to DocumentsUI. It's an APK and if there is an issue, you should be able to uninstall it, I think.

Maybe someone else can say whether or not this would help. Or, you can try it yourself.

This looks like a real possibility... unless someone has a better idea I'll give it a try and report back...

 

[dishe2]

Does Bluetooth only reconnect to the last phone used? My wife and I share the car, and she told me recently her phone wasn't connecting when she drives anymore. So I went into settings under the phone shortcut, saw the list of paired handsets, and manually clicked to connect to hers. All was good until next time I drove the car myself. My phone wasn't connecting either, until I went into the list of paired devices and clicked my phone name.
This is silly, shouldn't it attempt to connect to other previously paired devices if the first isn't found like every other bluetooth player?
We upgraded from an Atoto F7, and the F7 used to connect to whoever was currently driving (although if I didn't drive last, there was a slight delay if I recall correctly).

Just an update, I reached out to Atoto about the bluetooth pairing thing and they said that this is just how it works, and then gave me some reason it is "by design" for security or something. I don't really understand it and it kind of sounds made up, but the rep mentioned that the bluetooth connected device can unlock the radio so for security it only works with the last known device.
I asked why the S8 does this when the F7 worked as expected. I was told the F7 doesn't need that kind of security so it can reconnect to any previously paired bluetooth device. That's dumb, and this is the first truly negative customer support experience I've had with them. The answer sounds truly made up. Is this a limitation of Android powered head units? Can they only be paired to reconnect with a single phone at a time?

 

[scorpio76r]

Just an update, I reached out to Atoto about the bluetooth pairing thing and they said that this is just how it works, and then gave me some reason it is "by design" for security or something. I don't really understand it and it kind of sounds made up, but the rep mentioned that the bluetooth connected device can unlock the radio so for security it only works with the last known device.
I asked why the S8 does this when the F7 worked as expected. I was told the F7 doesn't need that kind of security so it can reconnect to any previously paired bluetooth device. That's dumb, and this is the first truly negative customer support experience I've had with them. The answer sounds truly made up. Is this a limitation of Android powered head units? Can they only be paired to reconnect with a single phone at a time?

What they told you sounds about right for security reasons.

 

[dishe2]

What they told you sounds about right for security reasons.

Can you elaborate? Or are you being sarcastic? I mean, once the car is on, anyone can just add their phone or go into previously paired devices like we have to currently. It's extra unnecessary steps that are very frustrating. What security am I missing?

 

[vintagephone]

@vintagephone I believe your issue can be solved using one of the items listed in the first post of the https://xdaforums.com/t/general-fyt...unisoc-ums512-q-a-mods-tips-firmware.4396339/

I'm not sure if your unit falls under / relates to that post, but I don't think it will hurt to try. There is a reference to DocumentsUI. It's an APK and if there is an issue, you should be able to uninstall it, I think.

Maybe someone else can say whether or not this would help. Or, you can try it yourself.

Remember, anything you do is your own responsibility.

Good luck

This worked! Thank you! Note: this installs a "different" Files app from the one currently on the google store. I'd suggest removing the current/new "Files by Google" app if you install this one via DocumentsUI.