Att variant unlocked for Tmobile- poor experience

cfclay

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Well that's weird... Band 12 looks to be enabled....why dont you try locking to only Band 12 and see what happens. Also I could find out if T-Mobile owns Band 12 spectrum in your market if you tell me what that is.

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Sure, market is Little Rock. I'm getting band 12. All I know is when I trace back all cities or spots I didn't get coverage this week, it was showing as a 700 mhz area on there system in the store, and we check a lot of specific pinpoints.

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Sure, market is Little Rock. I'm getting band 12. All I know is when I trace back all cities or spots I didn't get coverage this week, it was showing as a 700 mhz area on there system in the store, and we check a lot of specific pinpoints.

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They're at least good on the spectrum front through the whole state.. View attachment 4505390

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cfclay

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I used your suggestion and only used band 12, had no issue last night on a drive 100 miles up through North Central part of the state....then on my Network Cell Lite app I noticed I was getting At&t Band 12 for some time.
Sure, market is Little Rock. I'm getting band 12. All I know is when I trace back all cities or spots I didn't get coverage this week, it was showing as a 700 mhz area on there system in the store, and we check a lot of specific pinpoints.

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I used your suggestion and only used band 12, had no issue last night on a drive 100 miles up through North Central part of the state....then on my Network Cell Lite app I noticed I was getting At&t Band 12 for some time.

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Must be that area with AT&T Band 12 T-Mobile either doesnt have Band 12 or haven't deployed it yet.

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cfclay

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Must be that area with AT&T Band 12 T-Mobile either doesnt have Band 12 or haven't deployed it yet.

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Thanks for your help. I should have had coverage all through an area of 20 miles that I lost it, maybe that's the mystery 700 mhz I'm missing out on.

You seem knowledgeable, let me ask you a question- in the store, TMobile uses a website that shows the mhz signal one would receive in a pinpoint. Is that available to me somewhere on the web or an app?

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Thanks for your help. I should have had coverage all through an area of 20 miles that I lost it, maybe that's the mystery 700 mhz I'm missing out on.

You seem knowledgeable, let me ask you a question- in the store, TMobile uses a website that shows the mhz signal one would receive in a pinpoint. Is that available to me somewhere on the web or an app?

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Yeah I think it's this one https://maps.t-mobile.com/pcc.html?map=mvno-roamd-34l

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cfclay

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It doesn't mean anything for us Snapdragon without root. We cannot get to this CA menu... you may be able to with QXDM but be very careful there...

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So I have another update. I've traveled to some areas where the 700mhz signal was the only one I would receive. The phone worked in those areas, band 12. I don't get it. If I trace back to some other mostly rural areas where I've had trouble, I see that band 1900 was in use there.

Is this what is known as the carrier aggregation, how these bands all come together to give the best experience?


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So I have another update. I've traveled to some areas where the 700mhz signal was the only one I would receive. The phone worked in those areas, band 12. I don't get it. If I trace back to some other mostly rural areas where I've had trouble, I see that band 1900 was in use there.

Is this what is known as the carrier aggregation, how these bands all come together to give the best experience?


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Yeah just let the network do its thing with the bands that you connect to. And that Band 2 only explains the coverage issue you have. Band 2 isn't as good for coverage as Band 12. If it's not to your liking perhaps switching to another carrier would be a good idea. Otherwise that's just how it is in some places with T-Mobile where either they dont own Band 12 or haven't deployed it yet. Another thing, Band 71 will be the coverage band once that gets mostly rolled out everywhere. So you'll want a phone with that band on tmobile in rural areas.

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cfclay

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Yeah just let the network do its thing with the bands that you connect to. And that Band 2 only explains the coverage issue you have. Band 2 isn't as good for coverage as Band 12. If it's not to your liking perhaps switching to another carrier would be a good idea. Otherwise that's just how it is in some places with T-Mobile where either they dont own Band 12 or haven't deployed it yet. Another thing, Band 71 will be the coverage band once that gets mostly rolled out everywhere. So you'll want a phone with that band on tmobile in rural areas.

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Do mean "let the phone connect to the bands", rather than the Network connect to the bands?
That's the issue here, it's just the phone and I'll have to decide how to proceed. Tmo is zero help. It's still the flagship Note last I checked , so my butt is hurt that it's not connecting to various points throughout the state, some ranging over 20 miles of what TMo shows as great coverage.

Thanks for the tips.

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Do mean "let the phone connect to the bands", rather than the Network connect to the bands?
That's the issue here, it's just the phone and I'll have to decide how to proceed. Tmo is zero help. It's still the flagship Note last I checked , so my butt is hurt that it's not connecting to various points throughout the state, some ranging over 20 miles of what TMo shows as great coverage.

Thanks for the tips.

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Oh I see. Yeah coverage maps are a huge overestimation of actual coverage, most of the time fair signal means nothing. Perhaps switching carriers would be the best option here because T-Mobile clearly isn't cutting it for you from what I see.


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Update: I've traveled 1500 moles all over the state this week and I've backtracked the issue to be this phone will not pick up Tmobiles 700mhz network.
If you look at the app from TMobile called BYOD, you put in your IMEI and it straight up tells you (or at least me) that arent going to get it.


Lots of wasted time this week. Wish we would have known this before I started service.
I just used that app. Mine can pick up 700mhz. I also have AT&T. Interesting
 

cfclay

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I just used that app. Mine can pick up 700mhz. I also have AT&T. Interesting
I backtracked by travels from Little Rock to the Gulf Coast; and the phone worked beautifully through AR . I'm getting bands 2,3,4 and 12. Unsure why it hasn't performed well for me until now. The same drive I made on Monday... didn't work through most of Central to Southeast AR. Could the whole region have been compromised for maintenance?
 
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