Back to 4.4.4 from Lollipop

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For anybody that wants to go back to 4.4.4 from 5.0 I can confirm it works great, I just flashed back with Odin. The 4.4.4 firmware is at sammobile right below the lollipop firmware. The 4.4.4 flash put it into a bootloop to which I then factory reset and it started up perfectly with none of the completely unusable issues I was having.

Bummed out that I can't use lollipop for the time being, but more than relieved that I have a usable phone again, I thought it was toast.Lollipop made my phone worthless, literally couldn't do anything, major bootloops and constant crashes.

I made another thread about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/help/reboots-lollipop-t3090421
 

xm41907

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I took the upgrade and found it to be faster and more reliable as well. Still fingers crossed for a root exploit. At least we know if an exploit ever happens for 4.4.4 then we can downgrade to get it. Good to know!
 
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You should retry the upgrade, it's faster and more stable. You just had a corrupted file or something, if you really want the best is worth a try. It's 40% faster. There was just something wrong with your install.
Trust me I really wanted it and tried all the usual steps. I think something is wrong with my phones hardware that works mostly ok on this version. I actually stayed on an old version for a very long time, I rooted "root de la vega" and took one ota using the supersu option to keep root when using an ota. The next update after that would not work for me, I would have had to wipe and odin to update, so I held off thinking I wasn't missing anything. Till about a week or less after 4.4.4 came out then my phone started crashing the moment I received or made a call. I hadn't gotten any new apps or anything like that but just in case I factory reset to see if it fixed with no luck. So I finally upgraded via odin, no root now, but miraculously my phone could make calls again. I am giving you this essay because I have a feeling this issue is related. It seems it's my phones hardware that is messed up and i'm just lucky that 4.4.4 works at all. I still have issues every couple days where I make or receive a call and hear nothing, with a reboot needed to fix, that is confirmed still after a fresh install of 4.4.4 after all the 5.0 stuff I tried. Anyways thats why I think it's my phone. I wish I had an extended warranty so I could just update and make a claim.

As for everything I tried in the update, I took the ota, which was literally unusable by anybodys standard, I could use the phone for about 5-20ish seconds before it would crash, turning the sound to mute would help, but still crash at a couple minutes of use. I downloaded the firmware and flashed via Odin, same exact issues, changed nothing. Did several factory resets between all these steps. I kind of walked through the process on that thread I posted in the OP.

After making this thread I did try it one last time and flashed via odin, knowing that I had a workable fix, but same exact thing again. If they release another update I'll try then, but looks like I'm stuck till then at least. :(
 

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Awesome, glad it helped. I'm SO glad they didn't block the ability to do this, I'd have been out a phone if they had.
Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?

I want to rollback to the previous build until they sort out the radio issues. My phone was fine on NK1 but on lollipop it drops LTE indoors frequently. Aside from the radio issue, lollipop runs great. I factory reset after the update, didn't make a difference.
 

thornev

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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?

I want to rollback to the previous build until they sort out the radio issues. My phone was fine on NK1 but on lollipop it drops LTE indoors frequently. Aside from the radio issue, lollipop runs great. I factory reset after the update, didn't make a difference.
You can use any radio with any rom. Just flash the modem file via flash app or Odin.
 

YayNote

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Well, I'd still rather 4.4.4.. it's too bad. When I have strong LTE it's amazing. Did this speedtest today - kilobytes per sec. Incredible.
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Well, I'd still rather 4.4.4.. it's too bad. When I have strong LTE it's amazing. Did this speedtest today - kilobytes per sec. Incredible.
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No matter what....once you go to lollipop, you can NOT go back to any earlier version.



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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?.
Yep. The OP did. Hell that's the title of the topic and there's two confirmed posters that did it successfully. I only wanted to know if they flashed NJ6 or NK1 and what build of Odin they used..
 
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Yep. The OP did. Hell that's the title of the topic and there's two confirmed posters that did it successfully. I only wanted to know if they flashed NJ6 or NK1 and what build of Odin they used..
Okay, to anyone whose interested: I used Odin 3.09 & NK1 (most current VZW build of 4.4.4) and it worked. Phone went into a bootloop, started recovery did a factory reset an it's back to normal.

Lollipop ran fine on my phone-probably because I reset it as soon as I updated...BUT, my data signal was halved. I get a weak LTE signal at work and by weak I mean 1 or 2 bars 105-115DB at best. Old brick building and I work in the basement. On lollipop, it wouldn't hold onto LTE anymore. It'd flip between 1x/3g..usually settling on 3G. Voice was unaffected. Hopefully they sort this out but this sort of signal performance (especially when it was fine on KK) is unacceptable.

Rolling back to NK1 has solved that. Thanks to the OP!
 

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I can also confirm that flashing 4.4.4 NK1 from 5.0.0 OB6 works.
Tried it myself, but after I got done playing with it I went back to 5.0.0 OB6 afterwards.

I didn't look to see if it kept the 5.0.0 radio when downgrading to 4.4.4, but it kept the 5.0.0 boot loader.
I did not test the radio (as I didn't have a usable sim card at the time.)

Also, don't try to run URDLV on the 4.4.4 firmware before flashing, it will not boot (even with a factory reset.)
But I didn't try to flash a modified 4.4.4 firmware after 4.4.4 was already on there.
 
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