With respect and zero confrontation I disagree the battery situation is a Samsung phenomena.
I have been purchasing mobiles phones since 1989 and have generally owned the flagship models but also many other variants crossing every brand I can think of and the one common denominator in all the flagship models is battery use.
I have zero idea how the technology has advanced so fast in nearly every area of usage except battery time?
It amazes me how the various brands have trained us to purchase Uber mobiles that are more powerful than the average laptop then add software and advise us to downgrade the mobiles performance in order to conserve battery life?

Its so absurd yet we mobile nuts keep buying the mobiles? I don't know who is worse the manufactures or us, the consumers.
I have my SGS8+ set to the lowest level of performance in order to last the day. In reality I would be better off buying a middle range phone. This is certainly not just a Samsung situation.
Ryland :good:
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The size of the note 8 battery has zero to do with what happened to our much loved and missed note 7's. You simply cannot compare the note 8 with the SGS8+. I have seen the schematics for the Note 8 and its the real estate the S-pen occupies that results in a smaller battery than the SGS8+. Samsung are not "Playing it safe", its a question of internal space. You cant fit a pin head inside the Note 8 its chocobloc full.
Ryland