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drago10029

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Nov 19, 2008
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I know people have been having Mixed Battery life & I found this so I thought this would help. Found it on the Moto X community G+ Page. Thanks if it helps, if not post below, maybe this can be stickied if it's helpful enough.

EDIT 4/21/2015: You can download a permission manager app from the playstore and make sure no apps have the wake device permission & start on boot permission. Unless you know the app needs it.

Give it a few days to test please

BATTERY LIFE TIPS FROM - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116517178872973348174

""Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Do this every two weeks. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.

Battery Tip 2: Go to the Google Settings App, Location, then turn off Location Reporting. Your phone location apps will still work great, Google Now will also but it won't pop up Transit stops unless you open and refresh. It will still pop up Time To Leave info. There is currently a bug that randomly triggers the CPU to keep active with a constant 7-10%. I narrowed this down to Location or rather one of Moto's custom LocationServices process conflicting. When this happens, your stand by drain increases(loosing 2-5%/hr not doing anything). A reboot will fix it. Read more: #motoxbugs Sadly, I don't believe Moto will fix it. For now, this helps prevent it and lowers the ping rate Google Search uses for location requests.

Battery Tip 3: Android OS is too high(Is it's cpu time 2hr or more after 13hrs)? Disable Android Device Manager in the Google settings App by unchecking the first option. Reboot, twice. Monitor it until your next discharge. If you see a difference, then this is your problem. Test it, by enabling it again and reboot. I found a way to keep it on and not experience extremely high Android OS but I don't have enough testers to be 100% sure it works. This part is an Google issue. For now, you can use Moto's version of this service.
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Things to note, an overnight stand by drain that I've found achievable is 1%/hr. The tips above should help get you there. I've helped and seen users get 0.3-0.6%/hr on stock software and no root. I'll say the X is able to get good stand by but right now for majority of users they'll see the optimal 1%/hr to 1.7%/hr. Even in airplane mode, which is just wrong to me, Android OS being a tad high is the reason why. Hopefully..and I hope, Moto optimizes stand by drain like it did on the Moto G.

That's it for now, have fun. Let me know any good and bad below. Hopefully I can write a post with more tips on my blog to help more.""
 
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rsromano

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Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.

Can you explain why this helps battery life? Is this battery calibration? It is to remove a wakelock? Also, I'm not sure I understand the procedure completely.
 

Teksu

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Jun 9, 2010
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""Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Do this every two weeks. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.

Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"

http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
 
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jayboyyyy

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Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"

http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

that is true. but draining your battery down to 0 doesn't actually fully discharge the battery. Companies know this so when it gets that close the phone auto shuts down before it actually fully discharges the battery. Did lots of research on it and I don't think fully discharging the battery to 0 is a problem. Clearly, even then it hits "0" it is not actually at 0 because the phone uses power to **** itself down, thus protecting the battery from actually reaching 0.


This isn't as much of a battery saving tip as a battery calibration thing. It will help your battery charge properly and show your discharge rate properly as opposed to randomly losing a lot of battery all at once because it is reporting wrong as oppossed to your battery actually draining that fast. Or for users that can stay on 0 battery for many hours. Thats a calibration issue that this technique fixes.
 

drago10029

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Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"

http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

That Gizmodo article is a little too general and misleading. I would recommend the above advice I posted as it's pretty solid. Can't confirm the bugs that were mentioned though but it won't hurt to try some of those tips out if you're experiencing wacky battery lol
 

rsromano

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what does the following refer to?



uncheck what first option and what/where is the Android Device Manager? I don't see it in my Apps list.

In settings, go to Settings - Security - Device Administrators

uploadfromtaptalk1395840373155.jpguploadfromtaptalk1395840387817.jpguploadfromtaptalk1395840401777.jpg

Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
 
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640k

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that's a lot more helpful than the post above. thanks.

does anyone know how/if this interferes with security settings from exchange accounts?
 

bcellis

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In settings, go to Settings - Security - Device Administrators

View attachment 2651240View attachment 2651241View attachment 2651243

Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk

I think he was referring to the app "Google Settings" in the app drawer. The first setting is to remotely locate the device and the second setting allows you to remotely lock and erase. I'm guessing the method you described disables both completely.

Google Settings > Android Device Manager > "Remotely locate this device" (uncheck)



On an unrelated note, I've been wrestling with the high amount of wakelocks from NlpCollectorWakeLock and NlpWakeLock. After trying a ton of different options and disabling specific apps and/or services, the one with the most success so far is disabling the scanning of wifi networks even when wifi is off.

Settings > WiFi > Advanced > "Scanning always available" (uncheck)

As best I can tell, that eliminated a majority of the wakelocks I was getting. I still get NlpCollectorWakeLock and NlpWakeLock but it's on the order of a few minutes per 4-5 hours vs. ~1 hour per 4-5 hours. All other apps (tasker, maps, etc) work fine and all other settings are enabled (location reporting, high accuracy location mode, etc).

YMMV but it seems to have helped me quite a bit over the last 24+ hours. I'm sure there are further improvements to be made but at the end of the day yesterday I had 35% battery left whereas in the past it'd be <10%.
 

jco23

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In my experience, I leave Google tracking and android device manager on all the time. I get typically get 3 hours on screen time with with at least 24 hours off charger.
I leave them on bc my last device was stolen, and had I left them on, I would have been able to find it quicker.

Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
 

erikiksaz

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I disabled a couple of the things you mentioned (I left location reporting on, though, google now navigation works weird without it on), and my wake times went from about 15% down to 1%.

Thanks!
 

ranick01

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Nov 11, 2010
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Wow, thanks.

I implemented your # 2 and 3 and now I am getting crazy battery life. Easily makes it through the day with no wifi, lots of talk/text, and about 3 hours of screen time. I maybe have 30-40% after that
 

drago10029

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Nov 19, 2008
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I disabled a couple of the things you mentioned (I left location reporting on, though, google now navigation works weird without it on), and my wake times went from about 15% down to 1%.

Thanks!

Wow, thanks.

I implemented your # 2 and 3 and now I am getting crazy battery life. Easily makes it through the day with no wifi, lots of talk/text, and about 3 hours of screen time. I maybe have 30-40% after that

Turning off Location Reporting really made a difference for me, thanks!

Glad it helped you people! Unfortunately Kit Kat brought bugs for some people and some of these have helped me to. just it a thanks in OP so people know it's actually useful, also rate the thread!

that is all.
 

EVOSerb

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Jan 17, 2011
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I have to say so far #2 tip works great. I can notice since yesterday that the phone is actually sleeping and my battery doesn't drop.

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aviwdoowks

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Here is what I have for #2. Is it as you suggest, op?
 

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    I know people have been having Mixed Battery life & I found this so I thought this would help. Found it on the Moto X community G+ Page. Thanks if it helps, if not post below, maybe this can be stickied if it's helpful enough.

    EDIT 4/21/2015: You can download a permission manager app from the playstore and make sure no apps have the wake device permission & start on boot permission. Unless you know the app needs it.

    Give it a few days to test please

    BATTERY LIFE TIPS FROM - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116517178872973348174

    ""Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Do this every two weeks. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.

    Battery Tip 2: Go to the Google Settings App, Location, then turn off Location Reporting. Your phone location apps will still work great, Google Now will also but it won't pop up Transit stops unless you open and refresh. It will still pop up Time To Leave info. There is currently a bug that randomly triggers the CPU to keep active with a constant 7-10%. I narrowed this down to Location or rather one of Moto's custom LocationServices process conflicting. When this happens, your stand by drain increases(loosing 2-5%/hr not doing anything). A reboot will fix it. Read more: #motoxbugs Sadly, I don't believe Moto will fix it. For now, this helps prevent it and lowers the ping rate Google Search uses for location requests.

    Battery Tip 3: Android OS is too high(Is it's cpu time 2hr or more after 13hrs)? Disable Android Device Manager in the Google settings App by unchecking the first option. Reboot, twice. Monitor it until your next discharge. If you see a difference, then this is your problem. Test it, by enabling it again and reboot. I found a way to keep it on and not experience extremely high Android OS but I don't have enough testers to be 100% sure it works. This part is an Google issue. For now, you can use Moto's version of this service.
    --
    Things to note, an overnight stand by drain that I've found achievable is 1%/hr. The tips above should help get you there. I've helped and seen users get 0.3-0.6%/hr on stock software and no root. I'll say the X is able to get good stand by but right now for majority of users they'll see the optimal 1%/hr to 1.7%/hr. Even in airplane mode, which is just wrong to me, Android OS being a tad high is the reason why. Hopefully..and I hope, Moto optimizes stand by drain like it did on the Moto G.

    That's it for now, have fun. Let me know any good and bad below. Hopefully I can write a post with more tips on my blog to help more.""
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    In settings, go to Settings - Security - Device Administrators

    View attachment 2651240View attachment 2651241View attachment 2651243

    Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk

    I think he was referring to the app "Google Settings" in the app drawer. The first setting is to remotely locate the device and the second setting allows you to remotely lock and erase. I'm guessing the method you described disables both completely.

    Google Settings > Android Device Manager > "Remotely locate this device" (uncheck)



    On an unrelated note, I've been wrestling with the high amount of wakelocks from NlpCollectorWakeLock and NlpWakeLock. After trying a ton of different options and disabling specific apps and/or services, the one with the most success so far is disabling the scanning of wifi networks even when wifi is off.

    Settings > WiFi > Advanced > "Scanning always available" (uncheck)

    As best I can tell, that eliminated a majority of the wakelocks I was getting. I still get NlpCollectorWakeLock and NlpWakeLock but it's on the order of a few minutes per 4-5 hours vs. ~1 hour per 4-5 hours. All other apps (tasker, maps, etc) work fine and all other settings are enabled (location reporting, high accuracy location mode, etc).

    YMMV but it seems to have helped me quite a bit over the last 24+ hours. I'm sure there are further improvements to be made but at the end of the day yesterday I had 35% battery left whereas in the past it'd be <10%.
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    ""Battery Tip 1: Discharge your device all the way until it turns off, plug it in, charge up, turn on, after boot...unplug. Do this every two weeks. Optimal ranges to begin charges is usually 10-13% and above while your device is off. If On it may not work as well due an calibration issue.

    Discharging your battery down to 0% is not good for the battery or your device. I would change this tip to "reboot any time you take your phone off the charger"

    http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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    what does the following refer to?



    uncheck what first option and what/where is the Android Device Manager? I don't see it in my Apps list.

    In settings, go to Settings - Security - Device Administrators

    uploadfromtaptalk1395840373155.jpguploadfromtaptalk1395840387817.jpguploadfromtaptalk1395840401777.jpg

    Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
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    Turning off Location Reporting really made a difference for me, thanks!