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Battery repair, placebo or worse?

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jajk

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@DarthJabba9 Almost hilarious what is being claimed here:laugh: The phones battery is a single cell and is is not like a NiCad battery that gets memory effect - it does not need to go through a process that is a graphical knock-off of the old defrag utilities in Windows. The graphic is totally irrelevant and nonsensical to any sort of battery conditioning.
The best thing you can do for your battery is not to run it to dead flat too often and not leave it charging after it reaches its full charge voltage (which may be different to the 100% charge indication). Some phones (like our RN2) overcharge the battery to increase the claimed Amp-hour capacity - this reduces battery life. The charged voltage should be slightly under 4.4V, not the 4.44V our charger software is set to.
 

DarthJabba9

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@DarthJabba9 Almost hilarious what is being claimed here:laugh: The phones battery is a single cell and is is not like a NiCad battery that gets memory effect - it does not need to go through a process that is a graphical knock-off of the old defrag utilities in Windows. The graphic is totally irrelevant and nonsensical to any sort of battery conditioning.
Exactly my thoughts.
 

jajk

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@DarthJabba9 and all,

Some interesting scientific facts:
Lithium batteries do not care if they are never fully charged or discharged and do not benefit from "conditioning" cycles.
4.23V is the technically correct fully charged voltage for the LiPo battery chemistry found in phones.
At 4.3V, the battery gains 5% in capacity but battery life is halved.
There is no rating for battery life or capacity at 4.44V since this is well above the accepted maximum charged voltage and risks spontaneous combustion.
 
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DarthJabba9

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@DarthJabba9 and all,

Some interesting scientific facts:
Lithium batteries do not care if they are never fully charged or discharged and do not benefit from "conditioning" cycles.
4.23V is the technically correct fully charged voltage for the LiPo battery chemistry found in phones.
At 4.3V, the battery gains 5% in capacity but battery life is halved.
There is no rating for battery life or capacity at 4.44V since this is well above the accepted maximum charged voltage and risks spontaneous combustion.
So basically, our fast charger is killing off our battery? How can we change our charger software?
 
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jajk

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@DarthJabba9 A long, long time ago, in the land of Froyo there was an elf called....... Anyway, these "tweaks" are mindlessly applied long since the original perceived need has passed. Still have 100% effectiveness in placebo strength so serve a need in the community;)
 

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    @DarthJabba9 and all,

    Some interesting scientific facts:
    Lithium batteries do not care if they are never fully charged or discharged and do not benefit from "conditioning" cycles.
    4.23V is the technically correct fully charged voltage for the LiPo battery chemistry found in phones.
    At 4.3V, the battery gains 5% in capacity but battery life is halved.
    There is no rating for battery life or capacity at 4.44V since this is well above the accepted maximum charged voltage and risks spontaneous combustion.
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    @DarthJabba9 and all,

    Some interesting scientific facts:
    Lithium batteries do not care if they are never fully charged or discharged and do not benefit from "conditioning" cycles.
    4.23V is the technically correct fully charged voltage for the LiPo battery chemistry found in phones.
    At 4.3V, the battery gains 5% in capacity but battery life is halved.
    There is no rating for battery life or capacity at 4.44V since this is well above the accepted maximum charged voltage and risks spontaneous combustion.
    So basically, our fast charger is killing off our battery? How can we change our charger software?