[BATTERY REVIEW]Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh Lithium Ion "Fat Phone"

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d33ps1x

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Just checking the post box and lo and behold my Cameron sino 2200 MAh battery had finally arrived from England.

It looks like the real deal but only testing will tell.

I purchased in from this Ebay shop.

They delivered it via Royal Postal Service and considering it is the Christmas season it took 14 days instead of the usual 8. Not bad.

The battery and shipping cost me around $22.00 US.

It's charging right now on my universal charger so I still have the use of my phone but I did take some initial photos of the difference in the case size, battery, etc, to post.

My initial response was...whoa! Big! It's exactly twice the depth of the OEM battery.

The back case of of a smoother plastic and not as "grippy" as the original. It's well made and fits perfectly.

The battery itself it a surprisingly tight fit. At first I thought I had gotten the wrong size but it finally popped into place and sits snug in the case.

In hand it feels different of course. Only with some use will I be able to really tell if it's a benefit or a detriment to have a case that size in hand. I have big hands so it might actually end up nice. Some swyping and other activities will tell and I will report of this when I do.

I did a test of the camera with the inset camera and flash holes and there are no blackout spots in the pictures, nor do they suffer in quality as a result of the case.

I had a theory that this case would be provide more bass by acting as a passive subwoofer cavity and indeed it does although I tested it with the standard battery installed. With less cavity space with the CSI battery installed it should fall somewhere in the middle.

One of the things I noticed is increased low end response was created with a sacrifice in overall volume which makes sense. Will report further once battery is charged and there is a little less cavity space inside the casing.

Below are some pics of the batteries, phone profile, etc.

I will follow up with usage test results once it's charged and in the phone.

Battery charged fully after a couple of hours as it was already pre-charged for a bit. On the phone and Battery Monitor base battery profile created. Will find out the true mAh once I deplete and recharge it once.

I hope it will be a day or two before I report in on this. ;)

EDIT: Update

As I would have bloody well hoped, this battery does extend the life of the Wildfire S by quite a bit. Still trying hard to wear it down here by playing some games, coming up with a new tutorial, some recording of me playing guitar with 4 Track Pro, etc.

No solid stats yet but I will have after a drain and recharge or two.

Battery stays at a cool 25-26 degrees centigrade in operation and was cool to the touch while fast charging on the universal wall charger initially. I''ll provide charge while in use stats in short while.

EDIT:
11:10 pm and this thing is still charging. It's a lot of juice to squeeze in I guess. Waiting patiently and then I will post the charging profile screen shot from Battery Monitor.

EDIT:
12:00 pm and the battery is now showing full. Removed battery stats file and doing a complete drain. During charging while using the battery next jumped above 26.5 degrees centigrade. 10 degrees cooler than the stock battery.

EDIT:
2:00 pm and the battery is at 85 percent with moderate usage. Didn't get to sleep until 5:00 am and was up at 11:00 am checking mail etc.

I have to say that compared with the other WFS with the standard battery I REALLY like the feel of this double sized one in the hand. I find it easier for Swyping and general use. It just feels substantial and cups in the palm of your hand in a way that the shallow case doesn't.

EDIT:
The battery is still going strong. Used it heavily last night doing backups and playing Words With Friends online, tapatalk, gmail etc. for a long while. Had a mega text session with a cute girl.

Just after 3:30 PM on day two. Battery finally powered down after a heavy use phase for the last 10% for a total runtime on the first full charge of 40 hours.

Way cooler than the stock battery. Never got warm to the touch. Clocked in at 26.5 C at it's highest temp.

Apparently they even out and get even more capacity after a charge or two so if I get this up to 48 hours with moderate to heavy usage I'm thinking Phat is the new Thin! ;-)

FINAL UPDATE:
Battery charged over 7 hours while under a heavy load playing games.

All in all I've gotten used to the size, love the amount of power and longevity I get, it stays cool, and the price was great.

Next up... Ecell gold 2430 mAh standard sized lithium polymer review.

Coming soon.

DS
 
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d33ps1x

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it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
Hehe. :p
Yah it's not the smallest but I'm liking how it feels in the hand even though it's no longer a Zoolander cell.

So far I've been running it hard since 5 pm or so yesterday. NANDROID backups, restores, lots of web time, some games, FB, doing a bunch of root stuff to fix GPS and figure out WiFi issues. Sitting here with another couple of estimated hours left on it. Trying to run it dry for a calibration or two and it's taking a while to say the least.

It's like the weekend pill Cialis...You could call this thing the weekend battery. :cool:

I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.

Me <3 testing...
 
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Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?

Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)

I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.
 

d33ps1x

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Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?

Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)

I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.
Mine was in around 16 to 20 hours based on my usage.

I'll give you the stats on this one after it runs dry. Down 10% over the last 13 hours so far.
 

miguelca

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I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.

Me <3 testing...

That's the test I'm more curious about. Anyway I thank you a lot for the review on the FAT battery. ;) It's bigger so it should be better. As I already wrote on another thread I've had nice experiences with Cameron Sino batteries.
I'm curious about the Li-Polymer because the density and weight of the material are totally different. If that one approves I will buy one for sure.
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac. :D
 
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d33ps1x

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Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac. :D
ROFL. Nice.

As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.

I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.

Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating. :p

I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.

It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.
 
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miguelca

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ROFL. Nice.

As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.

I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.

Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating. :p
ROTFLMAO

I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.

It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.

Good luck with the shipping time and with the batteries too. ;)
If the Li-Polymer Gold battery only has about 1700mAH then it is pretty false advertising. My feedback would be pretty negative on eBay.
Sellers shouldn't be so greedy and announce values that are way above reality.
Anyway if 15.50€ gets me about 30-35% battery increase then I will probably buy one.
An original battery costs the double... :confused:
I will wait for your review before I decide because I really don't like ordering so near Christmas...
Thanks for your help mate. :cool:
 
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Had to put the discharge profile over two landscape screen shots :cool:

Sent from my HTC Wildfire S
 
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miguelca

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No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.

Final update. 40 hours on first charge.

This means that on the 3rd or 4th complete charge cycles you will probably get a few more hours. Just follow the battery maker's instructions and I guess that 45 hours of moderate usage will be possible. That's quite an achievement! :)
Even if it's a Big Mac, for work purposes that wouldn't be a problem. :p
 

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OP, can you come back after a few weeks using this battery, and do a 2nd review to see how it's lasting?

I only ask because I tried a similar 3500mah extended battery, which was amazing for the first few days, but after a week or two it started losing it's charge realy quickly.

40 hours use from a single charge seems awesome, but I don't wanna go spending on another battery until it's withstood the test of time :)
 

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    Just checking the post box and lo and behold my Cameron sino 2200 MAh battery had finally arrived from England.

    It looks like the real deal but only testing will tell.

    I purchased in from this Ebay shop.

    They delivered it via Royal Postal Service and considering it is the Christmas season it took 14 days instead of the usual 8. Not bad.

    The battery and shipping cost me around $22.00 US.

    It's charging right now on my universal charger so I still have the use of my phone but I did take some initial photos of the difference in the case size, battery, etc, to post.

    My initial response was...whoa! Big! It's exactly twice the depth of the OEM battery.

    The back case of of a smoother plastic and not as "grippy" as the original. It's well made and fits perfectly.

    The battery itself it a surprisingly tight fit. At first I thought I had gotten the wrong size but it finally popped into place and sits snug in the case.

    In hand it feels different of course. Only with some use will I be able to really tell if it's a benefit or a detriment to have a case that size in hand. I have big hands so it might actually end up nice. Some swyping and other activities will tell and I will report of this when I do.

    I did a test of the camera with the inset camera and flash holes and there are no blackout spots in the pictures, nor do they suffer in quality as a result of the case.

    I had a theory that this case would be provide more bass by acting as a passive subwoofer cavity and indeed it does although I tested it with the standard battery installed. With less cavity space with the CSI battery installed it should fall somewhere in the middle.

    One of the things I noticed is increased low end response was created with a sacrifice in overall volume which makes sense. Will report further once battery is charged and there is a little less cavity space inside the casing.

    Below are some pics of the batteries, phone profile, etc.

    I will follow up with usage test results once it's charged and in the phone.

    Battery charged fully after a couple of hours as it was already pre-charged for a bit. On the phone and Battery Monitor base battery profile created. Will find out the true mAh once I deplete and recharge it once.

    I hope it will be a day or two before I report in on this. ;)

    EDIT: Update

    As I would have bloody well hoped, this battery does extend the life of the Wildfire S by quite a bit. Still trying hard to wear it down here by playing some games, coming up with a new tutorial, some recording of me playing guitar with 4 Track Pro, etc.

    No solid stats yet but I will have after a drain and recharge or two.

    Battery stays at a cool 25-26 degrees centigrade in operation and was cool to the touch while fast charging on the universal wall charger initially. I''ll provide charge while in use stats in short while.

    EDIT:
    11:10 pm and this thing is still charging. It's a lot of juice to squeeze in I guess. Waiting patiently and then I will post the charging profile screen shot from Battery Monitor.

    EDIT:
    12:00 pm and the battery is now showing full. Removed battery stats file and doing a complete drain. During charging while using the battery next jumped above 26.5 degrees centigrade. 10 degrees cooler than the stock battery.

    EDIT:
    2:00 pm and the battery is at 85 percent with moderate usage. Didn't get to sleep until 5:00 am and was up at 11:00 am checking mail etc.

    I have to say that compared with the other WFS with the standard battery I REALLY like the feel of this double sized one in the hand. I find it easier for Swyping and general use. It just feels substantial and cups in the palm of your hand in a way that the shallow case doesn't.

    EDIT:
    The battery is still going strong. Used it heavily last night doing backups and playing Words With Friends online, tapatalk, gmail etc. for a long while. Had a mega text session with a cute girl.

    Just after 3:30 PM on day two. Battery finally powered down after a heavy use phase for the last 10% for a total runtime on the first full charge of 40 hours.

    Way cooler than the stock battery. Never got warm to the touch. Clocked in at 26.5 C at it's highest temp.

    Apparently they even out and get even more capacity after a charge or two so if I get this up to 48 hours with moderate to heavy usage I'm thinking Phat is the new Thin! ;-)

    FINAL UPDATE:
    Battery charged over 7 hours while under a heavy load playing games.

    All in all I've gotten used to the size, love the amount of power and longevity I get, it stays cool, and the price was great.

    Next up... Ecell gold 2430 mAh standard sized lithium polymer review.

    Coming soon.

    DS
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    No problem. I'll put it in my Calendar. :)
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    it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
    Hehe. :p
    Yah it's not the smallest but I'm liking how it feels in the hand even though it's no longer a Zoolander cell.

    So far I've been running it hard since 5 pm or so yesterday. NANDROID backups, restores, lots of web time, some games, FB, doing a bunch of root stuff to fix GPS and figure out WiFi issues. Sitting here with another couple of estimated hours left on it. Trying to run it dry for a calibration or two and it's taking a while to say the least.

    It's like the weekend pill Cialis...You could call this thing the weekend battery. :cool:

    I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.

    Me <3 testing...
    1
    uploadfromtaptalk1324163465945.png
    uploadfromtaptalk1324163508483.png
    Had to put the discharge profile over two landscape screen shots :cool:

    Sent from my HTC Wildfire S
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    Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.
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