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sirgoldi

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are all the ne versions rgb delta? or are they the same lottery luck with the old 5g model with some being pentile and other rgb delta???

We don't know yet. As for now I haven't seen opinion that NE has any other display than RGB Delta.

We have to wait for more opinions to find out.

PS. My girlfriend's phone has Delta RGB and looking at that even for a while makes my eyes hurt. She... just doesn't care and accepts it. On the other hand she is supposed to wear glasses. :D
 
I apparently have a Huaxing/Pentile slab and I don't find the consumption excessive.

Before I had the Mi 9 lite, and I immediately saw a difference in screen quality. It's hard to describe the difference, it's subtle, but very visible for someone who is used to an Amoled screen.
For me it's as if the Mi 11 lite 5G had a little lack of contrast and sharpness.
My former phone was also a Mi 9 Lite and I can clearly state that beside everything else the screen was a noticeable downgrade.
 

sirgoldi

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My former phone was also a Mi 9 Lite and I can clearly state that beside everything else the screen was a noticeable downgrade.

One reason can be cost cutting, another reason could be phone thickness. Not sure if that's the case but maybe there are differences between displays in terms of thickness. Thinner display could be less capable in general.
 

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We don't know yet. As for now I haven't seen opinion that NE has any other display than RGB Delta.

We have to wait for more opinions to find out.

PS. My girlfriend's phone has Delta RGB and looking at that even for a while makes my eyes hurt. She... just doesn't care and accepts it. On the other hand she is supposed to wear glasses. :D
dang haha was actually thinking of getting the ne but after hearing this i think i'll pass

ps. i haven't seen any reviewers mention anything about the display so i believe they were sent pentile ones while the consumer versions are delta ones. pretty scummy ngl
 

sirgoldi

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dang haha was actually thinking of getting the ne but after hearing this i think i'll pass

ps. i haven't seen any reviewers mention anything about the display so i believe they were sent pentile ones while the consumer versions are delta ones. pretty scummy ngl


Gizmochina found out about two display versions in Mi 11 Lite 5G. Then they reviewed NE and don't even mention about two versions so... NE has only Delta RGB apparently.

With Huaxing it's a really nice phone, unique thanks to its weight and it's only phone with Snap 780G so another "unique" feature but it doesn't mean it's better than 778 (offering better efficiency) but might be a sweet spot if you also want to play on phone (778 suffers with clearly worse GPU performance, like 30%). MIUI 12.5 Enhanced will fix some issues for sure and more or less 2 years software support should guarantee enough time until another 155 g phone appears.

People who used to 200 g phones don't even imagine how big game changer is almost 50 go less in hand especially if they use their phones a lot.
 
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Warren_Orange

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Has anyone ordered a 11 lite 5g from Xiaomi UK recently and received the Huaxing?

I feel like trying one at last. Currently have a Poco X3 Pro and the weight is annoying.

Are there newer Tianma that are better now?
 

shouk_1987

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I have preordered the 5g NE and should recieve it in 2 days and was checking xda threads for it
Then i found this thread which is really frustrating :(
This is beside seeing the fingerprint sensor that gets faulty on some units ( the non NE for now )
there is no other device with its value for money and the power effeciency of SD778 ( i am not a gamer )
Should i target the 128GB instead of the 256GB to cut some cost since the device is already a risky one ?
 

Warren_Orange

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I think I am going to pull the trigger on an original. They are £309 on Amazon at the moment. If the screen is crap I'll send it back.
 

Warren_Orange

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Amazon Germany is doing a NE 6GB version for £270. Seems all the NE have delta screens. I think I'm going to pick up two originals from Amazon. A green and a black. I prefer black and if that has Huaxing I'll keep and send back the green. If black is delta I'll try green and cross my fingers.
 

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    Not a troll post. He's right. Fake (emulated?) proximity sensor is a REAL problem, display is Tianma, battery is awful, and many people are losing fingerprint function because an unknown problem with software updates (I think it's some firmware update that bricks the fingerprint permanently).
    Xiaomi is really getting under the classic "cinese" smartphone nomenclature.
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    only if we stop buying them.
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    There is a clear difference between Huaxing and Tianma. My girlfriend and I had Huaxing, good quality although a remarkable Black Crush, but the fingerprint button failed and I sent the phone to Xiaomi for a warranty repair, however they told me that they could not give me a repair date due to a shortage of spare parts. I have received refunds and I have bought another one, but the new one has come to me with Tianma. Although this one does not have Black Crush, you can visibly notice the less defined text. :(

    Luckily for me, she has poor eyesight (and big glasses) and sees no difference, so she trades her phone for mine. 🤘😝

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    So far so good, I am getting used with it. I think I will keep it, for €230 I paid for it, I think is ok. The display does not bother me at all. I like the color options, I like more on white compared with yellowish of my Pixel 4 5g.
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    I bought a mi 11 lite 5G a few days ago, and it's a great phone. On the other hand, I thought the screen was not great, I felt like everything was blurry compared to my old Samsung A5 2016 (also having a 1080p amoled).

    After asking around on Reddit, it looks like Xiaomi is using two different screen suppliers, with two different technologies.
    The video below explains it perfectly well.

    So it is possible to come across a "PenTile" (or diamond) screen, a classic for AMOLED, or else a "RGB Delta" screen.

    The problem with the "RGB Delta" is that it is not as sharp as a "PenTile" because of its pixel layout. We can clearly see a drop in terms of definition and display sharpness. It is especially visible on the text (see photo below, Rgb Delta on the right)

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    I'm really disappointed with Xiaomi, either you get a good screen or a not so good one... I tried to contact the support to have more information, but without more.
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    After a bit of research I've found out that the Xiaomi 11 Lite NE (lisa) has exactly 2 types of panels - Tianma and CSOT. Comparison between the 2 can be found here. CSOT is supposed to be superior to tianma, but I am yet to come across any lisa unit or user with CSOT. Most of them are having Tianma.

    To check yours in MIUI, take a bugreport (settings > about > all specs > tap on cpu multiple times). It will be exported as a zip. Extract it, then extract the zip inside it, then you should see dumpstate_board.txt. Open it, and search for DisplayDxe.

    If you see
    Code:
    DisplayDxe: K9D 36 02 0a amoled dsc cmd
    Then you have a tianma panel.

    CSOT panel will show up as
    Code:
    DisplayDxe: K9D 42 0d 0b amoled dsc cmd

    Somewhere near that text you might also see
    Code:
    MDPPLATFORM_PANEL_K9D_CSOT_VTDR6130_FHD_PLUS_DSC_CMD
    Ignore this as its wrong, it shows the same even for tianma units.

    Another way to check is open the large text file bugreport-lisa***.txt, and search for
    goodix_get_panel_type. This is basically the dmesg of the goodix touchscreen driver. Tianma panel will show as:
    Code:
    [GTP-INF][goodix_get_panel_type:1054] This is TM Display Panel!
    While the CSOT panel will show:
    Code:
    [GTP-INF][goodix_get_panel_type:1054] This is CSOT Display Panel!

    Hope this helps!
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    GOT HUAXING! YES!

    FOURTH phone. Green Mint from Xiaomi UK. Difference is DAY AND NIGHT.

    I consider this display clearer than Redmi Note 8 Pro while Tianma is clearly the worst performer. What an absolute joke. I wasn't convinced that difference is there but after displays side by side showed by one user I knew I couldn't go wrong with this last gamble.
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    Hi. I got Mi 11 Lite 5G from Vodafone in UK. Black colour. Display is absolute disaster. Clarity is like in cheap phone 7 years ago. Additionally this display uses 3.8 TIMES more mAh in auto brightness then IPS in my Redmi Note 8 Pro causing much faster battery drain. It was in 90 Hz but now I'm testing in 60 Hz and it will be approximately around double what RM8 Pro needs for display.

    This is absolute joke Xiaomi. They sent reviewers good phones and scamming customers with cheap junk displays.

    For that reason I can't see any other choice than return this phone. I was so excited because of lightweightness and there we go... I feel Xiaomi scammed me. This is nowhere premium or midrange display. This is cheapest of the cheapest AMOLED. RN8 Pro IPS feels like Lamborghini compared to that junk. Mi Lite 5G screen is so unclear it causes huge discomfort for my eyes.

    Thanks for this thread.
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    Just received my phone, ran the ADB command and found it's DisplayDxe: K9 42 02 0b amoled dsc cmd!! (Huaxing) :)
    Purchased it (the black color) on eBay from this USA seller page: https://www.ebay.com/itm/194143992052

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