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sirgoldi

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Many of us think as for now that at least one type of displays mounted in Mi Lite 11 is very poor quality. Real resolution is much lower than it should be as advertised and if you used especially LCD display before, you would be very disappointed. Colours are also worse than in old Redmi Note 8 Pro so don't treat this 10-bit as an real thing. Xiaomi delivers cheap displays to customers and probably delivered phones with good ones to reviewers hence the good reviews. IMO don't buy this phone.
 

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150 mAh for one hour is nowhere near my result. Please let me know then, that's weird. This was usage mostly outside so minimum 3/4 on auto brightness. I really have feeling that this screen is a glitch which was put into this phone by accident.
This is what I'm getting for nearly 3 hours. It's strange, there must be something wrong with your display which should be covered in warranty either way. I don't think the RGB would be draining it so fast
 

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:O Is this at home or outside? Auto brightness? 90 or 60 Hz?
I have Manual brightness (between Half and 3/4) and it's mostly inside but combined with outside. I have the display on 90hz currently. Today I was outside mostly with manual brightness and 90hz, screenshot attached
 

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I have Manual brightness (between Half and 3/4) and it's mostly inside but combined with outside. I have the display on 90hz currently. Today I was outside mostly with manual brightness and 90hz, screenshot attached
Thanks. I read about AMOLEDs killing batteries on auto brightness in full sun. However, I can still see display is on first place in battery section in your case. AMOLEDs are ****, IPS in Redmi Note 8 Pro still needs half of that, offers much better sharpness and is even more colorful. And I doubt it's high class IPS considering Redmi Note 8 Pro price...!
 

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The theme difference also contribute to battery drain.

Dark theme has lower battery consumption than white theme in OLED.
 
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Thanks. I read about AMOLEDs killing batteries on auto brightness in full sun. However, I can still see display is on first place in battery section in your case. AMOLEDs are ****, IPS in Redmi Note 8 Pro still needs half of that, offers much better sharpness and is even more colorful. And I doubt it's high class IPS considering Redmi Note 8 Pro price...!

LCD is mature old technology. It's been around so long and all the manufactures make equally top notch panels. While AMOLED is the future, only a few companies can make high quality ones. Tianma certainly is not one of them.
 
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sirgoldi

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LCD is mature old technology. It's been around so long and all the manufactures make equally top notch panels. While AMOLED is the future, only a few companies can make high quality ones. Tianma certainly is not one of them.
Good point. It's probably easy now to make cheap good looking LCD. I remember old LCDs. Disaster. However, AMOLED is on markets for a while and I really didn't expect such bad display in - all in all - lite version of flagship Xiaomi phone...!

I'm in touch with Xiaomi support. I asked for possible workaround like swap my phone for one with Huaxing display. They kind of agreed with my email and promised to let me know if they can do something for me after I pointed issues and showed that Redmi Note 8 Pro display just looks much better. Also they were "surprised" (ekhm...) about such higher energy consumption. They know now users are aware of problem so maybe they will act. I really want this phone because of weight but - damn - with display just a bit on par with the rest...! Huaxing meets retina standard so that should be fine.
 

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Good point. It's probably easy now to make cheap good looking LCD. I remember old LCDs. Disaster. However, AMOLED is on markets for a while and I really didn't expect such bad display in - all in all - lite version of flagship Xiaomi phone...!

I'm in touch with Xiaomi support. I asked for possible workaround like swap my phone for one with Huaxing display. They kind of agreed with my email and promised to let me know if they can do something for me after I pointed issues and showed that Redmi Note 8 Pro display just looks much better. Also they were "surprised" (ekhm...) about such higher energy consumption. They know now users are aware of problem so maybe they will act. I really want this phone because of weight but - damn - with display just a bit on par with the rest...! Huaxing meets retina standard so that should be fine.

Be sure not to tell them how you find this out.

Or else in the future, they will hide it, or patch it.

Even eventually they will find out, but the longer it keeps hidden, the less burden to find out the manufacture for everyone else in the future.
 
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Good point. It's probably easy now to make cheap good looking LCD. I remember old LCDs. Disaster. However, AMOLED is on markets for a while and I really didn't expect such bad display in - all in all - lite version of flagship Xiaomi phone...!

I'm in touch with Xiaomi support. I asked for possible workaround like swap my phone for one with Huaxing display. They kind of agreed with my email and promised to let me know if they can do something for me after I pointed issues and showed that Redmi Note 8 Pro display just looks much better. Also they were "surprised" (ekhm...) about such higher energy consumption. They know now users are aware of problem so maybe they will act. I really want this phone because of weight but - damn - with display just a bit on par with the rest...! Huaxing meets retina standard so that should be fine.
They will not act. This issue is nothing compared to Redmi Note 7 Pros' touch problems (again, same panel lottery with Tianma screens) and they did not do anything then.
 

sirgoldi

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Vodafone UK agreed to swap my phone because of "faulty screen". I tried to explain it's not faulty but that's just worse type of screen but they were pushing for phone exchange. In the end I have no idea if it makes any chance because I doubt they are aware of problem and will send me random item not the one with Huaxing display. Hard to sort out this problem somehow.
 

sirgoldi

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Mine replacement phone was supposed to be delivered today but I'm delaying courier as I'm not sure if makes any sense to swap current phone to find out that they send me another Tianma phone. I doubt same vendor (Vodafone) might have phones with displays from 2 different manufacturing. Unlikely.

If you ordered directly from Xiaomi, you might be lucky to push them to send Huaxing. I'm sure they are already aware their little trick was already uncovered. It's almost everywhere in comments now that display is **** and it stops people from buying this phone. It's sad because it's a perfect design but Xiaomi decided to silently cut corners and it backfires now. Or quality control totally failed.

BTW: I haven't seen any users with Huaxing Mi 11 Lite 5G so looks like it's pretty non existent phone version which probably reached reviewers. It might be more expensive to manufacture displays with Pentile instead of RGB Delta.
Also we haven't seen comparison of those so maybe in general display of this phone can't be considered good.
 
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Mine was Huaxing, M2101K9G (global).
Display is fine. Texts are sharp and clear even with tiny and thin font.

Battery is also very good. SOT ~ 6h30 with dual sim, 4G all day. I'm not a gamer.
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my dump file info :
DisplayDxe: K9 42 02 0b amoled dsc cmd
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    Gizmochina previewed new Mi 11 Lite 5G NE. SD778 is slower (GPU) but offers better battery life what is weird considering 6 nm instead 5 nm. Everything is the same besides SoC. Everything including... display. Delta RGB is BACK. :D Just can't believe it. They clearly don't check XDA forum to find out about issues. Let's see if all phones will be RGB Delta or lottery again. :D

    It must be explanation for this. I think one is weight, second is how thin this phone is. I assume that Tianma might not be able to design display with different pixel arrangement to meet above due to manufacturing limits while Huaxing have technology but HDR is f**** and could be impossible to fix that for other technical reasons. Hence two types of displays as no manufacturer could design for them exactly what they wanted at least in such price range. Not an expert but maybe how thin AMOLED is also affects its final quality.

    I'm still surprised they fit to that phone stereo speakers (loud!) and decent 4250 mAh battery. If Xiaomi launched NE version due to 5 nm shortage chipsets, Mi Lite 5G must be a success and as for now no competitor designed such light phone with large display. Coming back to 200 g brick would be really hard.
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    I'm reading and reading... Have Tianma displays on 2 Poco X3 Pro. No blur what so ever. Not too bright as my old Nokia 8 screen, still very descent. Can someone show me a picture of a "faulty" tianma display cause i can't imagine your ptoblems?

    Somebody put here screenshots Tianma Vs Huaxing side by side.

    It's not necessary true that all displays made by Tianma. I don't think they only make Delta RGB displays. It's not a manufacturer, it's a pixel arrangement what causes problem. You might have Tianma Pentile display and those are much better (of course still worse than 1080p LCDs but that's normal. 1080p LCD = 1440p OLED in terms of resolution).

    It's like with SoCs. 5 nm could be less efficient than 7 or 8 nm. Samsung does disappointing 5 nm so our SD 780G is far from perfect in terms of efficiency. SD778 6 nm offers around 15% better battery life but GPU performance is affected. This SoC is not made by Samsung.
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    I bought a mi 11 lite 5G a few days ago, and it's a great phone. On the other hand, I thought the screen was not great, I felt like everything was blurry compared to my old Samsung A5 2016 (also having a 1080p amoled).

    After asking around on Reddit, it looks like Xiaomi is using two different screen suppliers, with two different technologies.
    The video below explains it perfectly well.

    So it is possible to come across a "PenTile" (or diamond) screen, a classic for AMOLED, or else a "RGB Delta" screen.

    The problem with the "RGB Delta" is that it is not as sharp as a "PenTile" because of its pixel layout. We can clearly see a drop in terms of definition and display sharpness. It is especially visible on the text (see photo below, Rgb Delta on the right)

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    I'm really disappointed with Xiaomi, either you get a good screen or a not so good one... I tried to contact the support to have more information, but without more.
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    Ok,I can't take better pictures with Iphone 8.Tianma display is 30% brighter and colour calibration is different and more yellowish(in the reality they are not yellow as on those black and white theme dialer pictures but they are still slightly different).Both displays are crisp and clear and I'm sorry I don't have a better camera to take a picture of it.Here are the pics...
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    GOT HUAXING! YES!

    FOURTH phone. Green Mint from Xiaomi UK. Difference is DAY AND NIGHT.

    I consider this display clearer than Redmi Note 8 Pro while Tianma is clearly the worst performer. What an absolute joke. I wasn't convinced that difference is there but after displays side by side showed by one user I knew I couldn't go wrong with this last gamble.
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    Hi. I got Mi 11 Lite 5G from Vodafone in UK. Black colour. Display is absolute disaster. Clarity is like in cheap phone 7 years ago. Additionally this display uses 3.8 TIMES more mAh in auto brightness then IPS in my Redmi Note 8 Pro causing much faster battery drain. It was in 90 Hz but now I'm testing in 60 Hz and it will be approximately around double what RM8 Pro needs for display.

    This is absolute joke Xiaomi. They sent reviewers good phones and scamming customers with cheap junk displays.

    For that reason I can't see any other choice than return this phone. I was so excited because of lightweightness and there we go... I feel Xiaomi scammed me. This is nowhere premium or midrange display. This is cheapest of the cheapest AMOLED. RN8 Pro IPS feels like Lamborghini compared to that junk. Mi Lite 5G screen is so unclear it causes huge discomfort for my eyes.

    Thanks for this thread.
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    Just received my phone, ran the ADB command and found it's DisplayDxe: K9 42 02 0b amoled dsc cmd!! (Huaxing) :)
    Purchased it (the black color) on eBay from this USA seller page: https://www.ebay.com/itm/194143992052

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