Benchmark shock

[RussianBear]

You can't compare an overclocked phone running god knows which kernel (It's easy to cheat by optimizing the kernel for specific benchmarks) with a stock phone running at stock speeds. That doesn't make any sense.
It's like trying to prove that Toyota is faster than a Lexus by strapping a jet engine on to the Toyota: Unfair, irrelevant and proves nothing: Except that a Toyota with a jetengine strapped on to it iis faster than a Lexus...

So yeah, the iPhone 4S does beat whatever HTC has out by a significant margin even. I have an Evo3D and a SGSII and it is pretty annoying that the HTC is so poorly optimized. Time for HTC to lock some engineers in a basement, and not let them out until they modified Sense to be as fast as iOS...

lol that's some awesome "comparisons" you've provided there. was anyone talking about putting a new cpu/gpu in their phone? lmao if anything, you could've said a car that was tuned (software) vs a car that wasn't.... gtfo

 

[052]

Guys, sorry for polluting your thread but I put my MIUI SGS2 to the test and this came out
Even underclocked to 800 mhz I managed to get over 65000 points so their tests are pretty much bullshit
PS overclocked to 1.6

 

[rafiqc]

Just ran these benchmarks myself and it looks a lot better than they make it seem, sure I'm an update up from their benchmark Sensation, but technically iOS 5 is newer than Android 2.3 anywayso it's negligible.I would like to see how Ice Cream Sandwich will compare to the 4GS (iOS 5).


Sunspider - 3532
Browsermark - 56065

Just loaded Android Revolution HD ROM (with all it's tweaks and boosts ) and tested again ..

Sunspider - 2532
Browsermark - 76720

Much better, but the i is still kicking my butt ... lets hold thumbs for Android 4

 

[foxmeister]

I've yet to see a phone benchmark translate into anything of real world interest or use.

According to benchmarks, my SGS II is quite a bit faster than my Sensation, but I don't notice this at all in actual usage, and in general prefer my Sensation over my SGS II.

My wife has an iPhone 4 and I find it to be a nice bit of kit, but exceedingly annoying, and I'm certain I'd feel no different about the iPhone 4S.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Ndokami]

i just looked at the chart again and my sensations scores out did the GSII
now i believe that the did little to no research and jest posted random scores

 

[yourpassenger]

Anyone that judges a phone based on benchmarks is kinda dumb. My phone is soooo fast and runs every game flawlessly, including some of the graphically intense ones from gameloft etc

It was fast before I rooted and flashed but now it's insanely fast.

Sent from my brain

 

[casperi]

I have just have to post after reading all of this.
1) why do you guy even care? It's an IPhone for crack sake.
It's got to be Apples marketing leaking into heads or something.
"If don't have an IPhone you can't do whatever"

So be glad you don't have an iPhone and their crack monkey benchmarks
Because you are an Android.
1)You can flash custom kernels
2) You can flash custom ROMs in ever degree that personalizes that Android device to you , and you alone.
3) We have a massive dev community here. Some of the dev/chefs stay up 18 hours at time to bring us their next best thing.
It surly isn't.to get rich but to enrich the Android community. You will never find that at Apple ever. They would rather just sue you instead and call it there's.

I could go on and but do I really need.to ?


So
If you dont have an iphone you can't "post yours".



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[setzer715]

The old iPhone vs EVERYTHING problem. If your concerned your phone doesn't BENCH as high as the 4S, then go get a 4S. If you love your Android and could care less that some website says the 4S is faster than anything in existence then welcome to Android!

My wife has a 3GS (just loaded iOS 5 on it today) and while I'm messing with it I get excited to see something new (in iOS 5) but within a minute or 2 I'm board and off to xda to see what I can flash today. New Theme? New Kernel? New Mod? New ROM? Answer to all is usually yes on almost a daily bases.

What can an crapple user flash today? iOS 5? Wait, they already did that,,,,hmmm,,,,nothing I guess. Just download another overpriced app/game from the app store I guess...

 

[s10shane]

ISO 5 supports duel core cpu's vs gingerbread which doesnt. wait till we get a hold of ICS and then compare the scores. thats why apple is loving that its on top cause pretty soon when ICS hits they will be out of the number 1 slot lol.

Apple=Fail!
Android=FTW!

 

[Catnap]

1900.6ms in Sunspider with Opera.

Hence why I use Opera.

 

[Gillion]

Benchmarking will always and forever be a controversial.

 

[L8 APEKS]

You can't compare an overclocked phone running god knows which kernel (It's easy to cheat by optimizing the kernel for specific benchmarks) with a stock phone running at stock speeds. That doesn't make any sense.

So...you don't think Apple's developers realize that the majority of the ignorant public will look at these benchmarks and mistakenly think they "prove" that the iPhone is "better" than another phone? And in turn, you don't think they, too, are OPTIMIZING THE IPHONE to get higher benchmark scores even though they don't necessarily translate to better real world performance? Duh. Think about it.

It's like trying to prove that Toyota is faster than a Lexus by strapping a jet engine on to the Toyota: Unfair, irrelevant and proves nothing: Except that a Toyota with a jetengine strapped on to it iis faster than a Lexus...

Ok then. So ask yourself - which matters to you? Buying the more expensive car that you can't really modify at all just to follow all the other sheeple or because you're a sucker to their marketing? Or buying the less expensive car with huge aftermarket offerings and blowing the doors off several more expensive or more popular cars for less money, and having the freedom to customize it the way you want?

Personally, I drive a Volvo station wagon that dyno'd @ 327whp/369wtq and I smoke STI's and EVO's...so you know which one I'd choose.

(850 Turbo wagon, T3/T4E .63, 3" turbo back, E85 tune @ 20psi...automatic trans!)

So yeah, the iPhone 4S does beat whatever HTC has out by a significant margin even. I have an Evo3D and a SGSII and it is pretty annoying that the HTC is so poorly optimized. Time for HTC to lock some engineers in a basement, and not let them out until they modified Sense to be as fast as iOS...

In the car world, you're the noob at the track telling people your stock STI would smoke anything...because it's popular and it's trendy. Then I turn a 12 second ET against you in an automatic wagon and make you look silly.

Benchmarks are not everything.

PS, another big negative for the iPhone/iPod = iTunes. omfg that software is utter garbage and the way it takes over your system you'd think it was a joint venture between Mussolini and Hitler.

 

[lianw]

Lots of rationalization going on in this thread.

Also lol @ attacking AnandTech, which is probably one of the most respected and trusted websites for benchmarks and reviews.

 

[i900frenchaddict]

Anyone that judges a phone based on benchmarks is kinda dumb. My phone is soooo fast and runs every game flawlessly, including some of the graphically intense ones from gameloft etc

It was fast before I rooted and flashed but now it's insanely fast.

Sent from my brain

If you really think Gameloft games are the most graphically intense possible, you are a real noob

Gameloft games run fluently on a single core HD2 or DHD

Try to run Tegra2 games using Chainfire 3D drivers, or try to run PSX or N64 games, these ones are graphically intense, and here you'll see the difference between a Sensation and a single core like the HD2

Sure, Gameloft games are nice, I play them too, but they were already full speed on my single core previous devices with custom ROMS.
Gameloft are NOT the most heavy games available!


Nevermind, at least one thing is sure here: Apple is telling lies, as usual, even at 1.2ghz, the Sensation is about 20000+ at browsermark than what apple is repporting in their fake graphics.....and iphone fans are so dumb they'll believe without searching if it's true or not......
Don't be mistaken, in 2009, when I started to record on youtube videos of PSX games going faster on a Windows Mobile than on an Apple 3GS, I was insulted hundred times by Apple fans, saying my videos were fake, saying it was impossible to defeat iphone, blahblahblah. I've been hating these stupid people since these days when they were ready to burn me for proving their baby was not the best in one field...

 

[L8 APEKS]

Hehe...yeah, not to mention, being the "best" doesn't really mean anything since (a) it's a relative term depending on what a person uses the device for, and (b) technology moves so quickly that "best" only lasts a couple of months and then it becomes "outdated."

 

[Dj_ReX]

I don't understand the people who buys phones looking at benchmark scores.

This logic should be changed.

"Iphone vs Others" is like "Intel vs AMD". Although AMD is much better in many cases among the same class motherboards, Intel makes it giving much better values in Benchmark scores. Test it man ! Do real tests , not benchmarking !

 

[rafiqc]

Being a blind follower of anything, be it HTC, Apple, Android or whatever, is really foolish. Everything\everyone have their good points and only through comparison can we find these points and improve.

 

[anarchyuk]

not sure how the benchmark was ran and how much android ICS will help but my sunspider results dont suffer the same fate

ps: browsermark result 71879 this is on android 2.3.7 btw

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I don't understand the people who buys phones looking at benchmark scores.

This logic should be changed.

"Iphone vs Others" is like "Intel vs AMD". Although AMD is much better in many cases among the same class motherboards, Intel makes it giving much better values in Benchmark scores. Test it man ! Do real tests , not benchmarking !

never heard such pap on a screen as what you have wrote...

 

[i900frenchaddict]

I don't understand the people who buys phones looking at benchmark scores.

This logic should be changed.

"Iphone vs Others" is like "Intel vs AMD". Although AMD is much better in many cases among the same class motherboards, Intel makes it giving much better values in Benchmark scores. Test it man ! Do real tests , not benchmarking !

Well, before the arrival of our asynchronous dual core, benchmarks have always been kinda trusted. At least, their scores have always increased proportionally to the power of the devices (I mean each new generation of CPU was killing the previous one in benchmark scores, scores improved proportionnally to the overclocking etc)

Then the Sensation came out.....fast UI using our both cores, but slow benchmarks (and 3D!!!!) because most of the time our second core was OFF, or just not used by apps.
And so people started to say benchmarks are **** because they have fast UI whatever the very low bench scores of the Sensation and the not-so-huge 3D perf.
Nevermind, today we can force CPU1 and have huge scores too.

Hey man, as for me, I don't understand people buying a dual-core with a GPU but who don't care of raw performance
Why didn't they buy a blackberry if they just have a professional use? Because they love the design of the case? lol Let them go for the Sensation XL, single core but nice too, sure it will have lower bench scores ^^

Don't see any offense, I'm just trying to say that we can use the same phone differently and appreciate it differently. I need my phone to deliver the biggest CPU power possible, and here, the highest CPU power I have, the higher benchmark scores I have too.

And the most important point here: Apple is clearly telling lies, fake figures, trusting bench or not is not the point here.

 

[whynot66]

I do like a good apple bash lol

I'd like to get my hands on a 4s out of the box.
Benchmarks don't mean all that much if your comparing android to android because you can cook it up

But when comparing to ios its usefull

I guarantee that I could beat any benchmark score that the 4s can produce with my Sensation 73% better undrclocked at 800 ha ha what a load of tosh

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