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Noe367

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I'm having the same "issue" as the OP, currently i'm on LineageOS and everything runs just fine but i want to try something else, i just don't know which one to pick. I know "best" is subjective but i'm still curious.

Also, which gapps would you guys suggest, i only use gmail, maps, fit and the store.
Honestly, for AOSP, there are so many options. But if you don't mind having not much customization, I would go with arrowos : constant update, and stable. But other ROMs maybe better (most likely), depending on what you want and need.
 

RS156

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Just asking the question again.
Currently are there any other roms available that have all the features in the stock rom? From what I have been reading most of the aosp roms have more battery drain, lower brightness, lower camera ( but can be improved by gcam), and worse sound.
Are there any roms available that give as much features as current stock rom as of today?

I personally feel for a normal user, it is better to wait and just use debloated stock MIUI. Many people tell they hate MIUI, but what they really hate are all those notification ads and that battery drain. With simple debloat the battery improves by around 20 - 30% and you retain all the features. You don't risk soft bricking your phone and keep your bootloader locked until there are custom roms better than current debloated stock MIUI.
 

motbot

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Just asking the question again.
Currently are there any other roms available that have all the features in the stock rom? From what I have been reading most of the aosp roms have more battery drain, lower brightness, lower camera ( but can be improved by gcam), and worse sound.
Are there any roms available that give as much features as current stock rom as of today?

I personally feel for a normal user, it is better to wait and just use debloated stock MIUI. Many people tell they hate MIUI, but what they really hate are all those notification ads and that battery drain. With simple debloat the battery improves by around 20 - 30% and you retain all the features. You don't risk soft bricking your phone and keep your bootloader locked until there are custom roms better than current debloated stock MIUI.
have you heard of Miui ROMs?
 

Noe367

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Yes. They are good but personally I would not risk rooting and unlocking bootloader just for slightly better MIUI experience.
Just asking the question again.
Currently are there any other roms available that have all the features in the stock rom? From what I have been reading most of the aosp roms have more battery drain, lower brightness, lower camera ( but can be improved by gcam), and worse sound.
Are there any roms available that give as much features as current stock rom as of today?

I personally feel for a normal user, it is better to wait and just use debloated stock MIUI. Many people tell they hate MIUI, but what they really hate are all those notification ads and that battery drain. With simple debloat the battery improves by around 20 - 30% and you retain all the features. You don't risk soft bricking your phone and keep your bootloader locked until there are custom roms better than current debloated stock MIUI.
Honestly, in my opinion, I could never go back to MIUI, even with all the "features" that it offers. AOSP ROMs, are, to me, the best options, nearly everything is perfect You just have to find the one you want
 

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Looking to switch to a POCO F3 as my daily driver (from Samsung A71).

Any recommendations for a clean and stable custom ROM?

To give you some context, I have kept my A71 on the stock rom since it's pretty clean and works well!

I don't want to deal with minor bugs/inconveniences on my daily driver, it should "just work" without workarounds required or resets/bugs.

I don't care about rooting or a crazy number of features - just want something stable.

I have read that AOSP based roms make the fingerprint scanner work poor, decrease screen quality/brightness, decrease vibration quality etc.

Given this criteria, I am leaning towards Xiaomi.eu as it will maintain the good camera quality and other nice features of MIUI without the bloat/ads/privacy issues, which is my main complaint with the stock rom.

Are there any AOSP based (or MIUI based) roms that do not have these drawbacks?
 

fadedave

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Looking to switch to a POCO F3 as my daily driver (from Samsung A71).

Any recommendations for a clean and stable custom ROM?

To give you some context, I have kept my A71 on the stock rom since it's pretty clean and works well!

I don't want to deal with minor bugs/inconveniences on my daily driver, it should "just work" without workarounds required or resets/bugs.

I don't care about rooting or a crazy number of features - just want something stable.

I have read that AOSP based roms make the fingerprint scanner work poor, decrease screen quality/brightness, decrease vibration quality etc.

Given this criteria, I am leaning towards Xiaomi.eu as it will maintain the good camera quality and other nice features of MIUI without the bloat/ads/privacy issues, which is my main complaint with the stock rom.

Are there any AOSP based (or MIUI based) roms that do not have these drawbacks?
The only problem with aosp based roms is the battery life imo, but everything else works great. You can install ANXcamera for good camera quality (it is the miui camera ported). I recommend ArrowOS if you need simplicity, and crDroid if you need a lot of customization options (I mean a LOT).
 
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alb3rtt

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The only problem with aosp based roms is the battery life imo, but everything else works great. You can install ANXcamera for good camera quality (it is the miui camera ported). I recommend ArrowOS if you need simplicity, and crDroid if you need a lot of customization options (I mean a LOT).
Battery life as in, it's worse than MIUI?

Anyways, thank you for the information! Will check them out :)
 

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Yeah, miui has a lot of battery optimizations (kills apps quickly, etc.).
Ive seen some AOSP roms reports with less than 0.2% per hour battery drop and some people managed to get 0% overnight with custom kernels. I just applied for unlocking bootloader cuz i grew bored of MIUI stock battery life. Its so inconsistent that it irritates me. Ive had the pinacle of custom ROMs the nexus 5 and used to flash a rom every month till i settled. Now my options would be a MIUI based rom ( cuz its not that bad for me ) or a AOSP one for that close to vanilla feeling. I just want my phone to not drain battery while not in use, that being said no bugs would be great.

In this threads there are tons of people who have tried many custom ROMs but they dont seem to make up their mind lol.
Imagine me coming from a 5 year break from flashing ROMs how do i feel.

Also i would like to ask about the screen brightness. Is it fixed yet on AOSP ?
 
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Ive seen some AOSP roms reports with less than 0.2% per hour battery drop and some people managed to get 0% overnight with custom kernels.
Well, for me arrowOS had a ~usable~ battery life, with lasting pretty much a day, and I am now using crDroid which for some reason doesn't dose correctly and sometimes drains 20%+ overnight (with data, vpn, and bluetooth turned off). And I have no idea how to fix it, I tried the force doze app, tried looking at BBS, which did not return any usable info, so I am lost why I have such a bad battery drain. Maybe because of my always-on wireguard vpn (which runs in kernelspace btw).
 
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Prototype18

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Well, for me arrowOS had a ~usable~ battery life, with lasting pretty much a day, and I am now using crDroid which for some reason doesn't dose correctly and sometimes drains 20%+ overnight (with data, vpn, and bluetooth turned off). And I have no idea how to fix it, I tried the force doze app, tried looking at BBS, which did not return any usable info, so I am lost why I have such a bad battery drain. Maybe because of my always-on wireguard vpn (which runs in kernelspace btw).
i remember reading from someone that posted here, he was on crdroid and had 2 days of usage with like 8hr SOT and nothing disabled. I mean i dont want to cripple the phone. Looking in between oneOS and crdroid/hentaiOS until now. Idk im still reading alot and have 168 hours time to choose lol
 
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motbot

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i remember reading from someone that posted here, he was on crdroid and had 2 days of usage with like 8hr SOT and nothing disabled. I mean i dont want to cripple the phone. Looking in between oneOS and crdroid/hentaiOS until now. Idk im still reading alot and have 168 hours time to choose lol
Oneos is very good, I think it's the best miui based ROM and I've tried them all.

if you choose AOSP, try arrow, it is serving me very well with regards to battery life. It is also very snappy.


btw what kernels did you see that were enabling 0.2% battery percent drop per hour?
 
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Oneos is very good, I think it's the best miui based ROM and I've tried them all.

if you choose AOSP, try arrow, it is serving me very well with regards to battery life. It is also very snappy.


btw what kernels did you see that were enabling 0.2% battery percent drop per hour?
Sorry for late reply. Crdroid and miui roms like casanova(support stalled atm), oneos(same) and miuimix. These have the best idle atm(stock no apps as then it will depend over the apps and settings u have installed). I have seen the screenshots showing less than 0.2% even some with 0% on telegram. Tbh im pretty happy with stock miui even though the "enhanced"(trash imo) version lowered my battery life. Before i would get 2 days out of 100% charge and now atmost 1 day. 22 hours left for bootloader to unlock and start flashing. I will try crdroid and arrow first and then check MIUI roms (the three mentioned above).Each day different rom .....
 
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Sorry for late reply. Crdroid and miui roms like casanova(support stalled atm), oneos(same) and miuimix. These have the best idle atm(stock no apps as then it will depend over the apps and settings u have installed). I have seen the screenshots showing less than 0.2% even some with 0% on telegram. Tbh im pretty happy with stock miui even though the "enhanced"(trash imo) version lowered my battery life. Before i would get 2 days out of 100% charge and now atmost 1 day. 22 hours left for bootloader to unlock and start flashing. I will try crdroid and arrow first and then check MIUI roms (the three mentioned above).Each day different rom .....
I'm getting 0.17% idle drain per hour with arrowOS with some tweaks
 
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    AICP rom is best!
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    +1 for AICP. Came from syberia to AICP
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    I do turn off wifi and cellular to get 0.17% so I cant do a full cycle unfortunately since I do no need to actually use the phone😆
    I'm currently with Android 12 MMX12.6 21.10.27, and I must say it's very good.
    This ROM is perfectly stable, well debloated (and you can always deactivate the few Xiami applications you don't like), idle drain is virtually 0% during the night without any tricks (see attached), everything working properly and the performance are also very great (AnTuTu reach 702500 see below).
    What else ?
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    I don't use xiaomi so I can't say, I think I know what the problem or rather misunderstanding here is tho!

    the battery page in miui only shows SOT and other battery consumption meeters of other apps for the last 24hs, that means that ur SOT is likely a lot lot above 4hrs, 9-15h I would say.

    Cheers.

    btw your "instantaneous consumption" is exceptionally good, what tweasks did u do in settings? did u undervolt? thanks :)
    No tweaks, except that I set the min CPU clock at 300MHz (instead of 691MHz by default) for the core 1 to 4 and I deactivated all the useless applications.
    I never undervolt: it makes the phone unstable for a very marginal gain !
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    Sorry for late reply. Crdroid and miui roms like casanova(support stalled atm), oneos(same) and miuimix. These have the best idle atm(stock no apps as then it will depend over the apps and settings u have installed). I have seen the screenshots showing less than 0.2% even some with 0% on telegram. Tbh im pretty happy with stock miui even though the "enhanced"(trash imo) version lowered my battery life. Before i would get 2 days out of 100% charge and now atmost 1 day. 22 hours left for bootloader to unlock and start flashing. I will try crdroid and arrow first and then check MIUI roms (the three mentioned above).Each day different rom .....
    I'm getting 0.17% idle drain per hour with arrowOS with some tweaks
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    Saying which rom is the best .. It is so subjective, because if you look closely, the vast majority of users will recommend and say that the rom they are using is the best.

    Personally, on my previous mobile, I was using only miui, specifically the Xioami.EU and I was delighted.

    But when I switched to Poco F3, I decided that even though I was happy with Miui, I wanted to make a change and try something else, hence I have been trying some roms (not all, because luckily, we have many to choose from).

    Personally, I wanted them to work if not perfect, as well as possible, without apparent failures. That the performance is very good, that the battery behaves, but above all, that they provide you with a plus of personalization (extra adjustments and pops to put on the mobile).

    So I tried:

    - ArrowOS -> Quite happy, everything was going well and with some customization touches, I recommend trying it if you are looking for that and I think that it also updates from its own updater, in case you do not want to always carry the TWRP in tow.

    - Hentai OS -> I don't like it at all, due to its null customization. I have also tried it 2 times, due to the good opinions that I have always read when they talk about it and to see if after a few weeks, it had improved in that aspect, but nothing, no matter how good they say it is, I don't like it at all nor does it give me that extra that I am looking for, so it is not a rom for me. Now, if you are looking for an experience as similar to a Pixel and as I mentioned, with zero customization, this may be your rom.

    - Evolution X -> I tried the first version and it didn't really look bad. What happens, I think that the issue of updates is somewhat stopped and they have not released many since then, but I'm not sure about it either.

    - LineageOS -> What to say about a mythical rom. I tried the first version and everything was going so well, that it is already a joy. I think this rom is also updated directly from its own updater, if you keep the TWRP they recommend for installation. It works in general lines very well, you have the security of the great community behind it and that it will be constantly updated and it also has its personalization touches, therefore, another recommended test.

    - crDroid -> For me, for the use that I give to the mobile and what I was looking for as I said at the beginning, to this day, the "best" rom that I have tried by far. Everything works really well, it has customization options to give and sell, which I have not seen in other AOSP roms (as you will see, those based on miui I have not bothered to try any rom, because I wanted a change of miui after so many years being only true to miui). Above is constantly being updated with performance improvements and new customization options. And in addition, the developer / group of developers are very active and answer any questions that may arise, either in the rom thread or in the channel that is dedicated to the rom and our mobile in particular, the Poco F3, on Telegram.

    This is broadly speaking, my totally subjective opinion, that there will be someone who may agree with me and surely many others, who do not agree.

    But asserting that such a rom is better than the rest, just because it is the one you use, without giving any weighty argumentation, does not make much sense, because it can lead to mistakes, for someone who has no idea about roms.

    The best thing is to know what you want and based on it, try different roms for several days each, in order to form a strong opinion and with arguments.

    Sorry for the brick.​
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    For MIUI roms i always go to EU rom, but anyways with this Poco F3 the best rom out there it's Arrow OS, fast, continous updates with his own updater, necessary customization, and this last update is something really good. Flash and forget anything.
    As Calamaros said best ROM is a matter of subjective preference. I also tried for at least one day in this order Xiaomi EU, Pixel Experience, OneOs, Syberia, Arrow, Havoc, Crdroid, EvolutionX, Lineage. In the end the winner for me was ArrowOs because is really, really fast, NFC, banking and Netflix (L1certification) works, not as customisable as HavocOs, Crdroid and EvolutionX but not lacking either, and the battery seems to last the longest. I don't game but I do Netflix, HBO and Emby alot and I get 7-9 hours screen time of 1080 playback at 50-60% luminosity on Data and Bluetooth (AptX HD). Animations are set at 0.5x and unnecessary boot apps disabled. If it helps someone...
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    Currenly, Arrow and Syberia are the best to me. I've flashed every rom many times as I have an extra Poco to play with. The runners up for me are crDroid and AICP. If you use the Always On Display you won't get great battery life on any of the ROMs. One of my pet peeves is if the rom doesn't have something so simple like a clear all button at the bottom in recents and an option to only show the battery percentage in the statusbar then it's a failure.
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    I got GCAM work on Arrow without any problem. Selfies & video quality is superior to the stock.
    Try MGC with IronHrt xml

    The IronHrt XML for gcam.

    The Gcam MGC APK.

    To make life easier :)
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    This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).

    I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.

    I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.

    MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.

    And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).

    =)