Bing?! wtf!

[bojangalz]

So I've been going back and forth about which Android phone is going pop my cherry and I've decided to allow myself to be deflowered by either the X or Fascinate. I'm in the midst of an ugly break-up with my Touch Pro (I know, I'm due) and it's about time to send that phone packing.

I've got a bit of trepidation about the X's size... It might be too big for me. I may want to ease myself into this, ya know. (in all seriousness I'm not sure that thing will fit into the shirt pocket on my uniform while I'm at work)

But I've heard rumors that the fascinate is dirty. From what I've seen it's got Bing's disease. Please tell me that someone here will have a prescription for that shortly after it hits the market.

 

[brickbeats]

it may be a option...

Maybe its just an option for search providers. This will also be my first, I will be moving up from a moddoded Omnia 910

 

[peperonikiller]

I got a chance to see the X the other day when I went into the verizon store, they had it activated and made it a big deal I was being able to see it by taking me into the back room. I must say, its big.. but it should fit into a shirt pocket.. at least width wise lol. Looking at the specs for the Fascinate and everything I really dont find it all that special. That being said, I will be the owner of an X by the end of the week :O

 

[Roland Deschain]

The Galaxy S has already been rooted, not like it's hard to replace the launcher and everything and use your own search provider.

 

[bizzshow26]

I got a chance to see the X the other day when I went into the verizon store, they had it activated and made it a big deal I was being able to see it by taking me into the back room. I must say, its big.. but it should fit into a shirt pocket.. at least width wise lol. Looking at the specs for the Fascinate and everything I really dont find it all that special. That being said, I will be the owner of an X by the end of the week :O

Wonder what you mean by not all that special because spec wise it stands at the top of the heap with the droidx. And if your speaking about the higher spec camera, that's been out done by the iPhone. Or the 3 mics. Remember this has a smaller but better screen. Better processor and gpu and its footprint is smaller. Don't get me going on the hardware locked bootloader the x has. All in all I will get this in a second screw Bing

 

[sprintrjm]

omg

i cannot believe the people that are dancing around like little girls because there is a "bing" search widget.

Holy ****, seriously. Just delete the widget off the front screen and use a google widget..

This kind of stupidity makes me sad for the human race. To quote Fight Club, " A generation of men raised by women".

 

[hexto]

i cannot believe the people that are dancing around like little girls because there is a "bing" search widget.

Holy ****, seriously. Just delete the widget off the front screen and use a google widget..

This kind of stupidity makes me sad for the human race. To quote Fight Club, " A generation of men raised by women".

Thanks. I couldn't agree more. I've been toying with the idea of getting this phone and here and other forums have people complaining about Samsung's decision to go with Bing like we can't do anything about it. You don't even need root to get rid of Bing

 

[Jez2cool]

I cant believe what i am see...HAS anyone on here actually used bing with the navigation before... don't get caught up in the name.. it work just as fine( In my opinion better the gmaps)

 

[Bateluer]

I've used Bing on the PC, never find a useful thing and has a cluttered results list. No way would I want it on my phone either. Handset makers and carriers should leave this choice in the hands of the end user.

Sent from my Droid using XDA App

 

[hydrogenman]

Anyone notice it's not going to be able to use Google Navigation either?

You're going to have to pay for VZ Navigation...check the training documents.

That's a huge WTF

Hope the documents are wrong too about the ram, they're listing it in the 300's instead of 512 like all the other Galaxy phones

Verizon is back to it's "lets see how bad we can nerf and screw up this phone" days

 

[ksizzle9]

It will have 512mb ram. It will have gmapps and navigation. Its an android phone. I would b freaking stunned if it didn't have these. Ill b getting one either way. I'm got rid of my dinc and x for the captivate on att and can't wait til I get my fascinate. The CPU and GPU are the absolute best in a mobile device anywhere period. This is going to b a great device. Even my 5mp camera and camcorder on my captivate is WAY better than either of the 8mp shoooters on the x or dinc. Trust me. These will b the best overall phone on vzw. Better than the x or the dinc. Period. I've had every Droid phone vzw has to offer. The captivate blows them all away

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[wrxlvr]

So, what will happen when you press the hardware search button? Will it be Bing? Will we have the option to change it to Google?

I will be rooting my phone and likely running a custom ROM once available (love you devs), but I'm not a fan of Bing.

 

[b15love]

Anyone notice it's not going to be able to use Google Navigation either?

You're going to have to pay for VZ Navigation...check the training documents.

That's a huge WTF

Hope the documents are wrong too about the ram, they're listing it in the 300's instead of 512 like all the other Galaxy phones

Verizon is back to it's "lets see how bad we can nerf and screw up this phone" days

youre wrong on all 3 points. You can use Google Maps/Nav, Specs are listed as 512MB Flash/384MB RAM with 2GB of Internal Memory, Verizon hasnt crippled any Android, its upto the manuf to come up with the hardware, the carrier can set limits on what the device does on their network, such as AT&T

 

[ranova]

Anyone notice it's not going to be able to use Google Navigation either?

You're going to have to pay for VZ Navigation...check the training documents.

That's a huge WTF

Hope the documents are wrong too about the ram, they're listing it in the 300's instead of 512 like all the other Galaxy phones

Verizon is back to it's "lets see how bad we can nerf and screw up this phone" days

sounds like all BS to me.

First off, 2.1 can only use 384mb of ram or so - so if what you say is true about hte documents, it is accurate until 2.2 is out to enable highmem for the full 512mb of ram

EVEN if they blocked google navigation (which makes NO sense, because it is available on Verizon's other android phones), you could still install it or root your phone and install it.

Because this phone is already rootable, nothing in this thread is relevant or anything to be afraid of.

You can change the background, change home launchers, change the search widgets, etc etc...

 

[HolyGrail]

I think some of you don't understand the possible issues this might have.

Verizon took away my option to have Google, or any other search provider as my default search, when I had my blackberry. Woke up, and (bam!) all that was there was, was Bing. Google and all my other search providers was gone. You could still use Google by bookmarking it tho, but that was extra steps for no reason.

Verizon has shown by my example they can cripple a phone if they so choose.

Worst case scenario? (And I hope it isn't)

Unlike blackberry, Google is deeply integrated into Android. If Verizon broke Google integration, and replace it with Bing integration, then that would be worse then you think. That means even if you replace the widget with a Google one, (for example) it won't stop links in the browser from defaulting to Bing when you click on them. Another example would be Bing maps would open instead of Google maps. Another limitation would be Bing's voice search, which can't compare to Google's.

That search/magnifying glass button would only open Bing search, A nightmare.

 

[wrxlvr]

If that's the case, I forsee a LOT of rooted phones... running Google.

 

[davisbs999]

I think some of you don't understand the possible issues this might have.

Verizon took away my option to have Google, or any other search provider as my default search, when I had my blackberry. Woke up, and (bam!) all that was there was, was Bing. Google and all my other search providers was gone. You could still use Google by bookmarking it tho, but that was extra steps for no reason.

Verizon has shown by my example they can cripple a phone if they so choose.

Worst case scenario? (And I hope it isn't)

Unlike blackberry, Google is deeply integrated into Android. If Verizon broke Google integration, and replace it with Bing integration, then that would be worse then you think. That means even if you replace the widget with a Google one, (for example) it won't stop links in the browser from defaulting to Bing when you click on them. Another example would be Bing maps would open instead of Google maps. Another limitation would be Bing's voice search, which can't compare to Google's.

That search/magnifying glass button would only open Bing search, A nightmare.

It's like you could see into the future Funny how many folks (e.g. see the quote below) torched people who said that Bing would be the only unrooted search option, yet here we are.

i cannot believe the people that are dancing around like little girls because there is a "bing" search widget.

Holy ****, seriously. Just delete the widget off the front screen and use a google widget..

This kind of stupidity makes me sad for the human race. To quote Fight Club, " A generation of men raised by women".

insufferable haters like you make me sad for the human race. Perhaps you should do some homework before you start spewing insults

 

[hijackerjack]

insufferable haters like you make me sad for the human race. Perhaps you should do some homework before you start spewing insults

Its alright. If he had a brain, he'd realize that even replacing the widget doesn't replace the default search provider. Trolls these days.


Anyways.. Two words.. Verizon Sucks..

Love their network, hate their bloat.

 

[Epell]

I bet first thing that's gonna come out after root is a method to get rid of bing!
So... not that worried, but samsung/verizon lost lots of sales by choosing bing as the only search engine for fascinate.
I hope the money from microsoft is worth the lost sales.

 

[badmf222]

All of the reviews and hands-on posts I have seen and read basically say the same thing. Bing cannot be removed. Everything is mapped back to Bing no matter what you do without rooting. On top of that Google Maps and Nav seem to crash when trying to launch. Just about all of the Google services have been mamed, broken, hidden or disabled. Root can't come soon enough to this phone, and hopefully root can fix it.