[Bounty] SM-N975U1 Note 10+ (USA unlocked version) bootloader unlock and root method
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His story is fantastic. Talk about making it later in life.
The Brits prefer Otis Spunkmyers.
Back on subject, what would you do if Samsung decided in the near future to BL lock all their next gen devices ?
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you mean would i whine and moan about it on public forums instead of using the official venus to express my deep disatisfaction?
if i were to buy a new phone, i would not buy an unrootable phone. it's my own personal policy that I do not deviate from. I dont buy then regret. I choose to do my homework before buying.. A wise purchase I'd call it.
Please if you haven't done so, sign the petition in OP. I haven't seen anymore pledges for the bounty, but anything helps. Let's get this bounty up!
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$30 down. All I want is to support my developers, and use the roms I want. I buy the hardware not your stupid os. #freethephone
This needs to get more attention if there is even a chance of something to come of this....
Maybe there should be a general petition to unlock bootloaders amongst all phones... One that would apply to more than just the owners of a note 10 plus...
Mobile phones/PC's should have the same build style as laptops and desktops. Such as a bios that is comparable to PCs with gpt style booting, and ability to boot from type c or USB ports. Because they removed all of these qualities and have put locks on the preinstalled OS. They literally created the concept of "bricking" phones. In my opinion, it is the "Company's" fault for all the phones that have been "bricked". If they included these basic features in every phone just like they do in every laptop or desktop, then not one single phone in the world would be bricked ""or at least would be rare and limited to users that are playing with the BIOS"" , even if the user is inexperienced and destroys the stock OS. They have simply removed all the safeguards that we have come to rely on. Because we have accepted this as Normal, now they can control the products they sell even after it is sold... I despise what these companies have done...
Maybe there should be a general petition to unlock bootloaders amongst all phones... One that would apply to more than just the owners of a note 10 plus...
Mobile phones/PC's should have the same build style as laptops and desktops. Such as a bios that is comparable to PCs with gpt style booting, and ability to boot from type c or USB ports. Because they removed all of these qualities and have put locks on the preinstalled OS. They literally created the concept of "bricking" phones. In my opinion, it is the "Company's" fault for all the phones that have been "bricked". If they included these basic features in every phone just like they do in every laptop or desktop, then not one single phone in the world would be bricked ""or at least would be rare and limited to users that are playing with the BIOS"" , even if the user is inexperienced and destroys the stock OS. They have simply removed all the safeguards that we have come to rely on. Because we have accepted this as Normal, now they can control the products they sell even after it is sold... I despise what these companies have done...
You should see how easy it is to brick a Huawei device , and I'm referring to their non rooted devices.
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but it's a north americain carrier issue. the rest of the world dosen't have this problem. petition the cause, aka the American carriers. as long as people don't realise where the problem comes from, the issue won't get resolved.
if your mechanic keeps on putting the wrong oil in your car and you have problems in winter time starting, will you go after the car maker or the mechanic? the uneducated might go after the car manufacturer unfortunately...
Yes, having a bootloader that is locked is a North American Carrier issue... But someone somewhere decided that they were not going to include basic features that you expect out of every laptop or desktop or PC . Which is the ability to boot off of a selected source independent of the internal storage ( USB/Type C). Wow, Imagine if this concept was also applied to every laptop and desktop. Imagine if tomorrow every PC manufacturer decided from now on to remove user access to the PC BIOS, disable USB booting(or just booting from any source other then internals + it's also soldered on) and remove user rewrite permissions to everything except the user land... ((((( The main point I am trying to get across is that they removed the ability to boot of off removable media, which by itself would give that person root access to the internal storage))))) which is explicitly why (in my opinion) support for it was removed. And you can't really say it's a security issue because every single Desktop/PC has built in support for booting from removable media...
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but were talking about android phones and or maybe tablets but mainly android based hardware...
so the point is: devices sold by americian carriers.
not a PC running windows and accompanying subsystems.
notice how raspberries pies are android based devices and do not suffer any limitations because they arent resold through carriers.
You are appealing to a very small community of folks when talking about booting from external media.
The folks willing to sign the petition just on unlocked bootloader's alone is already tiny compared to the entire mobile market but we slice it even thinner by talking about booting from external media to save bricked devices.
Nevermind directly equating the bios of a PC to the Android OS is a bit of an over simplification.
Also booting from USB is absolutely a security risk for PCs.. Thats why it's usually not recommended to leave your machine in that state and why you can lock bios.
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The unlocked models sold directly from Samsung USA are also bootloader locked. Wonder why?
In any case , it doesn't really take time to sign that petition .
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you tell me:
80 % of what you produce is towards carriers(your company is not American, theirs is. we all know that americian government and american companies eat at the same table when big money is involved. and canadians are unfortunate laggy copycat cousins).
said carriers have the big end of the stick. they do not want any deterrence towards they sales. if word got out that the unlocked models were also BL unlockable that would make a big hit in their sales.
speculation a side, the mere fact that the rest of the world dosen't get locked out really proves my point:
the carriers have a say in it. and in america, money is power over laws and individuals.
lets take Vodafone, i think they are big enough to rival the top American 3 right? why haven't they aswell pushed the same agenda? im thinking even if they wanted to, European laws might prohibits such actions. again,speculation but we all know carriers dont have the same supreme powers over there. just look that the history of data plans for your answer.
I believe companies have much less power in other markets/nations over user rights than in north america.
anyways all this is deviating very closely to politics and i know how that and xda dosen't mix well so ill leave it at that.
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and lets say we want to play devil's advocate for a minute: if samsung is pushing the locked BL for what ever reasons, why arent our carriers protecting us? why isint our government doing anything about it?
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In your third paragraph you mentioned that if word got out that Samsung direct devices were bootloader unlockable, then it would effect sales of carrier locked devices?
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its tough to understand why carriers would be so greedy, yet i still try to understand. what's your take on all this my deer sir?
yes you! young buck.
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