Bugless ROM(s)

[comunity]

I'm really appreciated for ROM developers' work! All these guys working really hard and give to all of us ROMs, with useful features and tuning. But...

Take a look on every first post for almost every ROM. Long-long-long list with huge banners like DISCLAIMER, CREDITS, FEATURES, etc. Are you really sure that your users can estimate your work looking on this "(des)infographics"?!

I'm personally, like thousands of other visitors, are looking for ROM, at first - without bugs, which may be vital for them. For example, ROM with excellent design and unique features is absolutely useless for me if there is a sim switching bug is exists in it. Just imagine situation: I switched off one of my sims and found that the only one way to return it back to work, is "reflash ROM"!!! Why? Bcz it's "a well known bug". Relay great case to get this knowledge, for example, right during going out of a plane in unknown country which you decide to visit first time in you life and left without any communication channel! )))

May I suggest to all ROM developers and regular ROM users list on ROM's first page or here in this thread very short text list with list of ROM's bugs and possible solutions for them, if any exists?

As I know, now there are following bugs that may be critical for lot of users:

1. fast charge - not working or working but haven't indicator in status bar.
2. root - buil-in or must be installed separately? Which one SuperSU, Magisk, or other one?
3. NFC & safetynet test - can this ROM provide wireless payments?
4. VOLTE - is it working?
5. sim switch off/on - you switching off one sim and then can't bring it alive even after reboot.
6. flight mode - after switching it off you must reboot your phone to make new calls.
7. led indicator - it may not work at all, may partially work with one blue color, can be tuned by LightFlow or other app
8. double tap to wake up - is it working from the box or required external app?
9. one key (energy saving switcher on left side) - is it working?
10. dark video - when switching from photo mode to video, picture and video itself becomes noticeable darker than photo.
11. finger print actions - don't work, work after reswitching navigation buttons, work with registered FP only.
12. huge bluetooth power consuming - showing more than 10% while in fact the weren't any device connected and BT wasn't in use.

Please review all above in my list ant type for us short report about their current state in your ROM.

And one more point: dear ROM builders, please do not use bugs descriptions like "same as lineage OS 14 from ....". When you publish your ROM some bugs may be present in other ROMs too. But later, in those other ROMs their authors may fix some of them, while in your ROM they still may left, because you haven't update it. Please don't confuse your customers and don't force them to scan all threads trying to find answers. You know your bugs - please simply list them. And maybe community will give you advice how to fix them (like in case with FP from HigwaySatr).

 

[Egyptiandroid]

ViperOS lacks updates. Otherwise, it's a great rom really

 

[comunity]

ViperOS lacks updates. Otherwise, it's a great rom really

unfortunately "great" - it's only your emotion. To get facts - try to check every item from my list in your "great rom" and you will find at least "sim switch of/on" and "dark video" issues.
DotOS looks similar to ViperOS but it haven't "sim switch of/on" issues. but DotOS development already stopped (

 

[Egyptiandroid]

unfortunately "great" - it's only your emotion. To get facts - try to check every item from my list in your "great rom" and you will find at least "sim switch of/on" and "dark video" issues.
DotOS looks similar to ViperOS but it haven't "sim switch of/on" issues. but DotOS development already stopped (

Then, can you suggest a ROM that has the fewest bugs, besides great battery backup?

 

[comunity]

can you suggest a ROM that has the fewest bugs

it was done in my previous message - DotOS. One more choice - LOS from HigwayStar. As I found these twos are both without "sim switch off/on" bug. But they have some other bugs (f.e. dark video).
Now I switched from DotOS to HigwayStar because HWS still working on it, and DotOS is freezed.

 

[Milan-XDA]

I'm really appreciated for ROM developers' work! All these guys working really hard and give to all of us ROMs, with useful features and tuning. But...

Take a look on every first post for almost every ROM. Long-long-long list with huge banners like DISCLAIMER, CREDITS, FEATURES, etc. Are you really sure that your users can estimate your work looking on this "(des)infographics"?!

I'm personally, like thousands of other visitors, are looking for ROM, at first - without bugs, which may be vital for them. For example, ROM with excellent design and unique features is absolutely useless for me if there is a sim switching bug is exists in it. Just imagine situation: I switched off one of my sims and found that the only one way to return it back to work, is "reflash ROM"!!! Why? Bcz it's "a well known bug". Relay great case to get this knowledge, for example, right during going out of a plane in unknown country which you decide to visit first time in you life and left without any communication channel! )))

May I suggest to all ROM developers and regular ROM users list on ROM's first page or here in this thread very short text list with list of ROM's bugs and possible solutions for them, if any exists?

As I know, now there are following bugs that may be critical for lot of users:

1. fast charge - not working or working but haven't indicator in status bar.
2. root - buil-in or must be installed separately? Which one SuperSU, Magisk, or other one?
3. NFC & safetynet test - can this ROM provide wireless payments?
4. VOLTE - is it working?
5. sim switch of/on - you switching of one sim and that can't bring it alive.
6. flight mode - after switching it off you must reboot your phone to make new calls.
7. led indicator - it may not work at all, may partially work with one blue color, can be tuned by LightFlow or other app
8. double tap to wake up - is it working from the box or required external app?
9. one key (energy saving switcher on left side) - is it working?
10. dark video - when switching from photo mode to video, picture and video itself becomes noticeable darker than photo.
11. finger print actions - don't work, work after reswitching navigation buttons, work with registered FP only.
12. huge bluetooth power consuming - showing more than 10% while in fact the weren't any device connected and BT wasn't in use.

Please review all above in my list ant type for us short report about their current state in your ROM.

And one more point: dear ROM builders, please do not use bugs descriptions like "same as lineage OS 14 from ....". When you publish your ROM some bugs may be present in other ROMs too. But later, in those other ROMs their authors may fix some of them, while in your ROM they still may left, because you haven't update it. Please don't confuse your customers and don't force them to scan all threads trying to find answers. You know your bugs - please simply list them. And maybe community will give you advice how to fix them (like in case with FP from HigwaySatr).

It amazes me how anyone can post anything on this forum...

 

[potatoman4321]

Can't you just dislike this post?

 

[comunity]

It amazes me how anyone can post anything on this forum.

can't understand - are you serious or ironic? but it seems to me - the last one.
if so - let me tell you: I'm really tired of the same dumb process:
discover "new" ROM at this forum -> backup currently running OS -> install new ROM -> make primary setup for it -> test that vital for me feature isn't work -> say 1-2-3 (un)censored words or sentences -> reboot to recovery -> wipe all installed stuff -> restore previous ROM with less bugs inside it -> one more time promise to myself no more trying unknown ROMs -> but... still watch for new releases.
ROM developers have enough time to draw useless first post dividing images, but appears so busy, to spent 2-3 mins for test above mentioned bugs and with real proud post their ROMs with the comment like "my ROM contains the only 3 bugs of total 12"? ))

 

[potatoman4321]

can't understand - are you serious or ironic? but it seems to me - the last one.
if so - let me tell you: I'm really tired of the same dumb process:
discover "new" ROM at this forum -> backup currently running OS -> install new ROM -> make primary setup for it -> test that vital for me feature isn't work -> say 1-2-3 (un)censored words or sentences -> reboot to recovery -> wipe all installed stuff -> restore previous ROM with less bugs inside it -> one more time promise to myself no more trying unknown ROMs -> but... still watch for new releases.
ROM developers have enough time to draw useless first post dividing images, but appears so busy, to spent 2-3 mins for test above mentioned bugs and with real proud post their ROMs with the comment like "my ROM contains the only 3 bugs of total 12"? ))

If you're so dissatisfied, don't change ROM's then.

 

[Siva Mk]

Hey. There's a good bugless(ughh) ROM it's called stock ROM. If you're not satisfied You can actually tell anything to them cuz you have paid for it. Have you tried that?

 

[comunity]

If you're so dissatisfied, don't...

my question was not about my satisfaction. it was about statistics - how many bugs from my list and which ones have every ROM published here.
I don't required recommendations or suggestions. I will be glad to see simple answers about each of 12 item - bugs exist or not. from anyone who had test them by himself )

 

[comunity]

Let me show answer example that I'm expected on:

LOS 14 from HigwayStar
fast charge - working but haven't indicator in status bar.
root - Magisk 16 built in ROM installation script
NFC & safetynet test - working, my payments were accepted lot of times. installing xposed module broke safetynet test (
VOLTE - supported, but I can't test bcz of absence 4G
sim switch of/on - working.
flight mode - after switching it off you can make new calls without any bodymovements.
led indicator - working out of the box. you can setup 16 mln colors, blinking speed and delays.
double tap to wake up - working from the box.
one key (energy saving switcher on left side) - may work, but ROM author decided to switch it off in latest release
dark video - when switching from photo mode to video, picture and video itself becomes noticeable darker than photo especially for dark scenes.
finger print actions - work after reswitching navigation buttons, even without registering FP.
huge bluetooth power consuming - showing more than 10% while in fact the weren't any device connected and BT wasn't in use. simply calculation issue, bcz battery isn't really draining by sleeping BT.

it's not an example. it's my real report about ROM that I'm currently using.

this report may be also about my DotOS usage, but i switched from DotOS to HWS because DotOS - frezed, and HWS - still under development.

 

[Siva Mk]

Do you know what all bugs(super annoying) the stock ROM have? Did you bust into Lenovo forum and post things like this?
If yes then wait for their update (rip in advance)
If no then go try that and tell me if somebody gives a #@!*

This ROM development is nothing you own. It's developer's hobby which they do in their free time. So creating a thread like this with such a demanding attitude is crossing the line.

You said about the long post on every ROM like intro and blah. Blah. You should read them.

* We are not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* Third World War, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, we will laugh at you.

If you think you can make something better do it by contributing towards ROM development.

 

[comunity]

Wow! So much angriness for one simple question! )))
Dear Senior Member Siva Mk, let me ask you why you are wasting your time and writing to me one more "long post",

You said about the long post on every ROM like intro and blah. Blah. You should read them.....

instead of provide us answers for my question, if you have any one?
You are right - no one owes nothing to nobody! at this and all other forums.
I DON'T REQUIRE from somebody, and from ROM developers especially - any warranties and immediately fixing all existing and not existing bugs. Please reread my very first sentence in first post.

I'm really appreciated for ROM developers' work! All these guys working really hard and give to all of us ROMs, with useful features and tuning.

I simply want to get help from other users (or ROMs' authors) and collect in one place info about ROMs critical bugs, which maybe helpful for all of us here, to choose ROM, most appropriate for himself.
I have a question - I had asked it. On my previous post I gave an example of answer that I expected. If you haven't such answer - please don't grow Universe entropy and simply ignore my posts and topics. Let we all stop this flooding, and will concentrate on help one to another

 

[medwatt]

How many threads like this are going to be opened ? And who are you to tell developers what to do or bemoan the lack of bugless ROMs ? Ask a mod to close this thread because it's useless as no developer cares about your opinion. This is one of the reasons why there should be a down vote button on XDA like there is on reddit.

 

[Siva Mk]

How many threads like this are going to be opened ? And who are you to tell developers what to do or bemoan the lack of bugless ROMs ? Ask a mod to close this thread because it's useless as no developer cares about your opinion. This is one of the reasons why there should be a down vote button on XDA like there is on reddit.

He's just another one who wants attention

 

[comunity]

And who are you

I'm one of the users legion. I'm those who use ROMs which developers creating not for their own using. As far as developer decided to publish his ROM in the Internet, he MUST be ready to answer the questions about his ROM.

Let me repeat once more to be completely clear:
1) I don't want to test on my own phone ALL published here ROMs.
2) I asked ROMs' users or their authors help in checking and reporting existing of some vital for lot of users bugs, that MAY be present in these ROMs.

Why did you all pounce on me (instead of check and report bugs existing)?
Am I asking anywhere at least one ROM developer to immediately FIX bugs in his ROM?!!
One simple question with pre-prepared themplate to make answer as easy as it possible. Are any criminal in my 12 items bugs list?

Once more I'm urging all to switch from hollywaring to finding bugless ROM or at least clarifying which bugs are exists in each ROM.

 

[The WiTcH Er]

Nice thread, Sorry there is no bug-less rom available for P2 right now ?

 

[fady saher]

For me the only rom that has no bugs is stock mm 6 even stock nougat for me has a bug that Lenovo can't solve till now linegue os by HWS is the best with minor bugs that does not affect daily drive

 

[b50corei5]

I'm one of the users legion. I'm those who use ROMs which developers creating not for their own using. As far as developer decided to publish his ROM in the Internet, he MUST be ready to answer the questions about his ROM.

Let me repeat once more to be completely clear:
1) I don't want to test on my own phone ALL published here ROMs.
2) I asked ROMs' users or their authors help in checking and reporting existing of some vital for lot of users bugs, that MAY be present in these ROMs.

Why did you all pounce on me (instead of check and report bugs existing)?
Am I asking anywhere at least one ROM developer to immediately FIX bugs in his ROM?!!
One simple question with pre-prepared themplate to make answer as easy as it possible. Are any criminal in my 12 items bugs list?

Once more I'm urging all to switch from hollywaring to finding bugless ROM or at least clarifying which bugs are exists in each ROM.

Dude seriously if all people have a attitude like yours developers will just stop building roms altogether.