Bugs!Bugs!Bugs!

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It would be a pure miracle if brand new OS's like Android were released without bugs. But we are not living in a utopia - Android 7.1.1 is extremely buggy. (BTW, if you are not experiencing bugs, your settings and apps installed are very different, and not at all like mine. Hence the bugs - they are not features, they appear when they please, for different setups.) One of the latest bugs is the "Android OS" battery drain. I have my Pixel XL set up like the rest of my phones - minimal notifications, minimal features, minimal drain. And until 7.1.1 and the latest "Google" app update, my stuff was working just fine.

Enter the newest update, BAM! We have battery drain from "Android OS." No battery drain before 7.1.1! Double battery drain after!
Here are the actual numbers.

Normal battery drain with a smartwatch connected, most basic push notifications enabled like Gmail, wifi on - about 0.5% battery per hour. Phone awake time is about 10% or less, depending on settings.

New, abnormal battery drain, with a new Google app - drain is at least double, 1+% per hour, phone awake time is at least 20+% time.

This used to be a problem before. Then they fixed it. Now it is here again!
It's as if these people keep reusing the same basic and buggy code!

Is it possible? Google started hiring coding people who reuse buggy original code without even checking what was wrong with it in the first place?

 

[M9guy]

Sorry to hear your having problem. Mine has been buttery smooth since day one. Only issue I ever had was using open wifi networks but that I fixed but turning off the setting to automatically connect to open wifi networks, which is of no use to me anyway as I know all the places that I go that have free wifi and they are all saved to my phone.

 

[nabbed]

Sorry to hear your having problem. Mine has been buttery smooth since day one. Only issue I ever had was using open wifi networks but that I fixed but turning off the setting to automatically connect to open wifi networks, which is of no use to me anyway as I know all the places that I go that have free wifi and they are all saved to my phone.

Thank you. I've just been very frustrated with the inability of the coolest company in the world to fix the most obvious bugs.
It's like their ideology has become "innovate first, fix problems at the very last moment, no matter the cost." So many bugs!

And I've been using Samsung phones, intertwined with a few Nexus and HTC devices, for the last 3 years - their update schedule is atrocious, but at least they release nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice, which one can disable.

But the Google Bluetooth problems have been around for literally years. And the "Android OS" battery drain bug has been around for a few years. They keep fixing it, and keep reintroducing it. It seems like whoever is in charge of their Bluetooth department is a complete moron. Same for Android OS battery drain bug.

 

[Scott]

It's like their ideology has become "innovate first, fix problems at the very last moment, no matter the cost." So many bugs!

And I've been using Samsung phones, intertwined with a few Nexus and HTC devices, for the last 3 years - their update schedule is atrocious, but at least they release nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice, which one can disable.

But the Google Bluetooth problems have been around for literally years. And the "Android OS" battery drain bug has been around for a few years. They keep fixing it, and keep reintroducing it. It seems like whoever is in charge of their Bluetooth department is a complete moron. Same for Android OS battery drain bug.

OMG, this post made LOL for real. The best part...

"nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice"

Aside from Lag, LOL.

Sorry that was funny!


But back to your issue. I checked my devices and I am not getting any drain. I am on 7.1.1 with Elemental X 1.02 Kernel. Right now I am at 12 hours with 20% battery use with a prediction of another 48 hours.

Can you screenshot your battery screen so I can see it?


EDIT: Here is mine...

 

[quangtran1]

I'm sure Samsung would love to have these "problems" right now.

 

[Scott]

I'm sure Samsung would love to have these "problems" right now.

Hehe... I am guessing a Note 7 reference?

 

[quangtran1]

Hehe... I am guessing a Note 7 reference?

Lol.

 

[nabbed]

OMG, this post made LOL for real. The best part...

"nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice"

Aside from Lag, LOL.

Sorry that was funny!

I don't understand. You are a developer with 65k thanks votes yet you seem to suggest that lag elimination is more important than squashing of bugs? Do you work for Google, because that seems to be their strategy now? Maybe because iPhones are faster, even though they are complete ****...

I am sorry but currently I cannot use my BT car kit, Motorola Roadster 2, because a BT bug disables it when I'm wearing my beautiful Huawei watch with a custom shiny band. I'm sorry but my battery is draining twice faster than it used to after the latest Google app update. And I'm sorry if I like my Samsung Note 7, which tried to do too much and was crucified by the press. It was 10 times the phone my current Pixel XL is. Oh yeah, Note 7 didn't have the BT bug. Life was good!
Here - some real life sentiment injected for genuineness.

But back to your issue. I checked my devices and I am not getting any drain. I am on 7.1.1 with Elemental X 1.02 Kernel. Right now I am at 12 hours with 20% battery use with a prediction of another 48 hours.

Can you screenshot your battery screen so I can see it?

You don't want to see my screenshot. It's much better than yours even after the Android OS bug. My Pixel XL is currently draining about 1% per hour when it's idle. That is about twice of what it used to do before the latest Google app update. And yours is even twice more!
How can you not see these problems?!

 

[bobby janow]

I just never understand why Samsung fans come on Google phone forums and rant like they actually own the devices in question. By the time they end the tirade I'd have sold my "flawed" device and gone back to my Sammy. This has been going on since the N5 with a huge rant in the 5x forum and now in the Pixel and the XL. But to be fair there are Moto fans doing it too. Not many iPhone users, a testament to the phone since they will almost never buy an Android. Bottom line, why don't they just sell it or even better why buy it, if they actually do. It's interesting that there are usually no screen shots backing up the claims of Google bugs (bugs! x3) One bug was simply not enough. I just don't get it. Sell it already!!! (x3)

 

[SouthernEvo]

Its very possible your phone is having issues yet I haven't seen anything that indicates you have tried to fix said issues . Have you done a factory reset ? Have you tried to clear caches ? Is it an app on your phone causing these issues ? I only ask these questions mainly due to the fact the other manufacturers you listed in your post would ask you to do the same thing . As for Scott he has been developing roms since as far back as I can remember and has done nothing but outstanding work . I have personally ran his roms and can honestly say he knows what he is talking about . It was his software I started using when I first started rooting etc etc . As for bugs in OS updates I have seen them on everything from HTC , Samsung , Moto , LG and Apple . I would advise relaxing,doing some digging around to find others who have said problems and utilizing whatever fixes they have applied to correct the issues you mentioned .

 

[destes37]

It is too bad the op needs to use offensive terms to express him/herself...

 

[nabbed]

Its very possible your phone is having issues yet I haven't seen anything that indicates you have tried to fix said issues . Have you done a factory reset ? Have you tried to clear caches ? Is it an app on your phone causing these issues ? I only ask these questions mainly due to the fact the other manufacturers you listed in your post would ask you to do the same thing . As for Scott he has been developing roms since as far back as I can remember and has done nothing but outstanding work . I have personally ran his roms and can honestly say he knows what he is talking about . It was his software I started using when I first started rooting etc etc . As for bugs in OS updates I have seen them on everything from HTC , Samsung , Moto , LG and Apple . I would advise relaxing,doing some digging around to find others who have said problems and utilizing whatever fixes they have applied to correct the issues you mentioned .

Have I done a factory reset? Yes, when Project Fi was just isn't working, and I was on the phone with a Google rep for 90 minutes, I did a factory reset. It fixed the issue with project FI.

Have I tried to clear caches? Yes, I have cleared caches and sometimes data for many apps.

I am beginning to see a pattern.. Are you suggesting that my problems with bugs are of my own doing?
As if I'm using specific settings that only I prefer and apps only I prefer that are breaking a brand new os, that is completely bug free...

 

[nabbed]

It is too bad the op needs to use offensive terms to express him/herself...

Offensive?

 

[Alcolawl]

3/7

Pretty OK attempt to piss people off but a lot of us saw right through it. I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing), I'm actually just here to pick apart your argument. Newsflash: The Note 7, battery issues aside, sucked. (See: With the Note 7, Samsung Still Delivers Embarrassing Real-World Performance).

No screenshots to backup your complaints and your insults and bragging are as ridiculous as the thread title. Someone refutes your claims with actual proof and you claim it's much worse but preface this whole conversation with "Well, if you don't have this battery drain problem it's because you don't use the same apps as me". OK, so is that an Android issue or is it an app issue? I'll admit that Google frameworks updates have caused wakelock and battery drain issues in the past on my N5X and N5, but they were usually easily remedied. Not every release is perfect. Even a company like Apple, developing a new iOS update for only a handful of devices (not thousands of different ones like Android), struggles with smooth releases.

If you hate the phone so much, sell it. I'm sure someone else would love to have it as a late Christmas gift.

 

[nabbed]

3/7

Pretty OK attempt to piss people off but a lot of us saw right through it. I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing), I'm actually just here to pick apart your argument. Newsflash: The Note 7, battery issues aside, sucked. (See: With the Note 7, Samsung Still Delivers Embarrassing Real-World Performance).

No screenshots to backup your complaints and your insults and bragging are as ridiculous as the thread title. Someone refutes your claims with actual proof and you claim it's much worse but preface this whole conversation with "Well, if you don't have this battery drain problem it's because you don't use the same apps as me". OK, so is that an Android issue or is it an app issue? I'll admit that Google frameworks updates have caused wakelock and battery drain issues in the past on my N5X and N5, but they were usually easily remedied. Not every release is perfect. Even a company like Apple, developing a new iOS update for only a handful of devices (not thousands of different ones like Android), struggles with smooth releases.

If you hate the phone so much, sell it. I'm sure someone else would love to have it as a late Christmas gift.

"Pretty OK attempt to piss people off"
You are crazy. That was not my intention at all. I'm sorry you felt that way.

"but a lot of us saw right through it"
You are double crazy to think that you have some kind of an army against me.

"I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing)"
You are literally doing the defending.

I'll skip pointless drivel that follows...

"Not every release is perfect."
No, this one is not perfect! This is my whole point!
How can you blindly praise an OS so buggy?

 

[Alcolawl]

"Pretty OK attempt to piss people off"
You are crazy. That was not my intention at all. I'm sorry you felt that way.

"but a lot of us saw right through it"
You are double crazy to think that you have some kind of an army against me.

You can't apologize about making me feel a certain way and then immediately backhand me with an insult like "you're crazy".
It's also not an army, it's a dozen or so users that disagree with almost everything you're saying.

"I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing)"
You are literally doing the defending.

Because I stated my opinion of it being amazing? This is the one and only time I mention the Pixel XL, so I'm not sure how I'm defending it. If I had my N5X my attitude would still be the same. Is your argument against Android or is it the Pixel? Or is it Google? Hmm.

I'll skip pointless drivel that follows...

Ok? You skipped the meat and potatoes of my post because you have no retort.

"Not every release is perfect."
No, this one is not perfect! This is my whole point!
How can you blindly praise an OS so buggy?

Let me rephrase: No release is perfect.

Now, let me ask you something. Do you update your computer? Do you like to update the apps you use every day? What's guaranteed to be on a change log for an update? Bug Fixes. Why are you holding Android (but only stock Android, not Samsung's bloated rendition) to a much higher standard? I'm blindly praising Android as much as you're blindly praising Samsung and your Nade Note 7.

Let me ask you something else. You say you're not trolling so what is the point of this thread? To see if anyone agrees with you? To fire up this silent majority of people that secretly hate their brand new phone? You can be disappointed with your flagship phone all you want, but you don't have to force your opinion on others. I'm always down for a civilized conversation but I won't tolerate insults as a rebuttal. I'm sorry you're disappointed with your phone or Android in general and I hope that you find the phone you're looking for. Maybe the Note 8 will be your cup of tea. Or maybe check out the OP3T, but be careful, it's running the latest release of Android.

 

[nabbed]

You can't apologize about making me feel a certain way and then immediately backhand me with an insult like "you're crazy".

Apologize to you... Right.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
I don't normally do that.

 

[toknitup420]

Apologize to you... Right.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
I don't normally do that.

Where's the screenshots of you're battery stats.

 

[quangtran1]

The plot thickens......

 

[bobby janow]

Don't even tell me you guys got punked again.

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