Buying a new Android display

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Astur_Torque

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Hi

I have and old Sofia 3R 1 GHz 1 core head unit in my Open Corsa

Its extremely slow and I'd like to update to another unit

What should I know before buying another one? What is the lastest recommended?

I am asking this because i found a little messy this forum, because everyone is talking about a different MCU

thanks beforehand!
 

Onkypig

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teyes and ts7/10/18 (topway) are non FYT based. Theyve got the 2000x1200QLED screens and the TS18 is the 13" 1920x1080 QLED. They are floating units, much like thick tablets. Most of the others headunits out there are either single or double din units, such as joying. There are very few problems when it comes to head units, some are sorted out by the manufacturer-and mostly to do with bluetooth connectivity. FYT based units dont have aggressive restrictions on changing system firmware variables and as such there are some custom roms for those that like to fix certain aspects of their systems such as themes, system managers, rooting, and overall control of the device's software itself. FYT-based units are the most forgiving to work out problems.
I own a Topway TS10 10.36" 2000x1200 8gb/128gb 7862uis cpu and the single problem is that i own a creative gc7 dac that uses spdif and its own bluetooth app. The creative bluetooth app doesnt want to connect to the DAC at all.
If using a DAC and you want to route ALL the head units audio to it than an FYT based unit offers the capability of changing to that. I haven't given any attention to the mediatec android HUs.
Heres some useful posts
Routing USB Audio for an external DAC via FYT-based joying unit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ll-audio-topics-usb-dac-music-player.3577217/
MarioDantas FYT-based custom roms and firmware- https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-fyt-7862-a-s-kernel-md-edition-with-fmc.4542673/
Marios website- http://fytfactory.mariodantas.com/fmc-platform/
Topway TS10/18 Non-FYT based firmware - https://lnx.pausacafeone.it/wordpress/2022/12/09/topway-ts10-firmware/

Theres are also the new android headunits that have the snapdragon 665 Processor that are now popping up on the market. Ive yet to see anyone review it, but its should be the most up-to-date hardware and software. Possibly real android 11/12, fixes to prior known issues..... maybe....
 
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Astur_Torque

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teyes and ts7/10/18 (topway) are non FYT based. Theyve got the 2000x1200QLED screens and the TS18 is the 13" 1920x1080 QLED. They are floating units, much like thick tablets. Most of the others headunits out there are either single or double din units, such as joying. There are very few problems when it comes to head units, some are sorted out by the manufacturer-and mostly to do with bluetooth connectivity. FYT based units dont have aggressive restrictions on changing system firmware variables and as such there are some custom roms for those that like to fix certain aspects of their systems such as themes, system managers, rooting, and overall control of the device's software itself. FYT-based units are the most forgiving to work out problems.
I own a Topway TS10 10.36" 2000x1200 8gb/128gb 7862uis cpu and the single problem is that i own a creative gc7 dac that uses spdif and its own bluetooth app. The creative bluetooth app doesnt want to connect to the DAC at all.
If using a DAC and you want to route ALL the head units audio to it than an FYT based unit offers the capability of changing to that. I haven't given any attention to the mediatec android HUs.
Heres some useful posts
Routing USB Audio for an external DAC via FYT-based joying unit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ll-audio-topics-usb-dac-music-player.3577217/
MarioDantas FYT-based custom roms and firmware- https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-fyt-7862-a-s-kernel-md-edition-with-fmc.4542673/
Marios website- http://fytfactory.mariodantas.com/fmc-platform/
Topway TS10/18 Non-FYT based firmware - https://lnx.pausacafeone.it/wordpress/2022/12/09/topway-ts10-firmware/

Theres are also the new android headunits that have the snapdragon 665 Processor that are now popping up on the market. Ive yet to see anyone review it, but its should be the most up-to-date hardware and software. Possibly real android 11/12, fixes to prior known issues..... maybe....

thanks mate By i don't know all the terminology, what means FYI, MCU, MCU.. is there any post where I can find everything?
 

Onkypig

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Heres an FYT based QLED https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/mekede-m6pro-plus-with-2k-2000x1200-screen.4516547/. Theres no need to mess with anything to do with MCU unless you plan on modding.
At the time the biggest selling point to me was the 360 degree camera setup, but joying didnt have a unit with that design. You also should consider converting high-level to low-level RCA outputs no matter what headunit you go with, unless you plan on using spdif digital output. Both are options for a stronger voltage and cleaner singal
 

Pavel-71

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how can you identify FYT and no FYT?

I won't buy joying again because there is not customisez face for the car anymore
You don't specify what shape you need. For example, Mekede has different types for Opel Corsa, choose the one that suits you. The UIS7862S FYT is listed in the table on the device page, I recommend taking the m600s or m700s, the memory requirements of applications keep increasing. If you want HDMI or a 360° camera, write to the seller.

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Onkypig

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how can you identify FYT and no FYT?

I won't buy joying again because there is not customisez face for the car anymore
all you need to know is that FYT is moddable, non FYT has virtually no aftermarket modding support other than what is provided by the manufacturer and a very rare instance of a rooting possibility. Some people prefer non-FYT aka TS10/TS18 because of the more appealing theme, upgradeable Windows Theme firmware, and manufacturing of their own independent software that suits the mass appeal aspect.
FYT and non-FYT can both use the "fastest" processor to date that makes up Android head unit (uis7862). OP needs to ruse through the Mekede, Topway, and Joying FYT kernel mass mega threads.. It might take awhile, but theres tons of helpful info. If you want a bezel matching headunit than that would already limit your options, unless OP you can find a bezel purchase separately. Distinguishing between FYT and Non-FYT ISNT always specified by the resellers. Lots of threads posted about what HU they have. If you want to see more, please post requirements you seek in a HU.... WhATs YoUr bUdGEt.
If i HAD to choose. GO WITH the MEKEDE or TEYES CC3 for FYT based units or the Topway TS10/18 for Non-FYT.
 
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Astur_Torque

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all you need to know is that FYT is moddable, non FYT has virtually no aftermarket modding support other than what is provided by the manufacturer and a very rare instance of a rooting possibility. Some people prefer non-FYT aka TS10/TS18 because of the more appealing theme, upgradeable Windows Theme firmware, and manufacturing of their own independent software that suits the mass appeal aspect.
FYT and non-FYT can both use the "fastest" processor to date that makes up Android head unit (uis7862). OP needs to ruse through the Mekede, Topway, and Joying FYT kernel mass mega threads.. It might take awhile, but theres tons of helpful info. If you want a bezel matching headunit than that would already limit your options, unless OP you can find a bezel purchase separately. Distinguishing between FYT and Non-FYT ISNT always specified by the resellers. Lots of threads posted about what HU they have. If you want to see more, please post requirements you seek in a HU.... WhATs YoUr bUdGEt.
If i HAD to choose. GO WITH the MEKEDE or TEYES CC3 for FYT based units or the Topway TS10/18 for Non-FYT.

It would be this:


the problem they don't have shipping from europe

insted maybe i can get one like this, this is not FYT I think:


Not sure yet!
 
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Onkypig

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Both of those choices look good, personally Id get the FYT model. Ask seller if it comes with optical output, and if they say optional, just tell them to include it. I can tell you that the 8GB/128gb isn't lightning fast, but it definitely isnt slow. Its CPU is from Q2 2020 so its still speedy. My android test bench without running a ton of background apps eats up 2+gb of ram, so a 7862 with 4gb/64gb would probably be bare minimum. Driving with it running Maps, youtube, amazon music, spotify, carplay, ect probably gets closer to 3.5-4Gb. In terms of hardware, the FYT model is exactly what i own, besides the QLED screen. It also has the option for front/rear usb dvr cameras as well as the 360 degree camera system, as a potential upgrade path.
Opting for the lower ram capacity, you could always add external storage for media content. I wouldnt recommend anything lower than 6Gb seeing as though that is the bare bones stock that comes with loads of tablets, as mainstream tablet manufacturers probably make it 6Gb for a good reason.
Ask the non-FYT seller if their HU supports 360 degree bird eye camera, if you are interested in that.
 
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Astur_Torque

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Both of those choices look good, personally Id get the FYT model. Ask seller if it comes with optical output, and if they say optional, just tell them to include it. I can tell you that the 8GB/128gb isn't lightning fast, but it definitely isnt slow. Its CPU is from Q2 2020 so its still speedy. My android test bench without running a ton of background apps eats up 2+gb of ram, so a 7862 with 4gb/64gb would probably be bare minimum. Driving with it running Maps, youtube, amazon music, spotify, carplay, ect probably gets closer to 3.5-4Gb. In terms of hardware, the FYT model is exactly what i own, besides the QLED screen. It also has the option for front/rear usb dvr cameras as well as the 360 degree camera system, as a potential upgrade path.
Opting for the lower ram capacity, you could always add external storage for media content. I wouldnt recommend anything lower than 6Gb seeing as though that is the bare bones stock that comes with loads of tablets, as mainstream tablet manufacturers probably make it 6Gb for a good reason.
Ask the non-FYT seller if their HU supports 360 degree bird eye camera, if you are interested in that.

well. 8/128 GB 210K in Antutu means more than Oneplus 3T mobile, is low for todays standarts of speed in mobile phone, but remember I come from Sofia 3gr with 1 core at 1 Ghz

My idea is getting 6 or 8 GB of RAM if possible and UIS7862S FYI if I can. I think I can have it till the end of the times of my corsa hehe

I wouldn't change SOFIA, but is extremely slow and unresponsive, and being x86 some apk on the internet don't run propertly
 
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