Camera Discussion/Image Samples (Post Your Pictures!)

[ndonnine]

Here are 3 photos. Taken with Google cam port, Essential cam and another app call Camera HD Professional. All taken using HDR.
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Notice the bag under the chair? It looks like essential phone app was able to give the most detail onthat while the pixel camera app gave more bright colors on the shirts.

Great photo spot to test BTW

 

[ndonnine]

Essential:

Pixel App:


Pretty close. Pixel port actually took longer to shoot than essential app on this one. Sorry they are rotated it's default with XDA uploader.

 

[ndonnine]

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Pretty close. Pixel port actually took longer to shoot then essential app on this one.

 

[ctonylee1965]

First Monochrome

Somewhat nice.

 

[bricky23]

Trying out the black and white

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Night shot

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[takertx]

Trying out the black and white

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Night shot

The night shot is with the Essential App right?

 

[bricky23]

The night shot is with the Essential App right?

Yes

 

[BigJermZ]

I finally received my 360 camera...requires update for klik and a reboot as it still didn't work after the update. Here is a pic from the 360 camera

 

[dpackerz]

Camera update is available:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.essential.klik

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[resident0915]

It seems like Essential was just overly obssessed with their perfectly flat back idea (which I don't even think looks so great, it's almost too plain) and thought they could do "magic" by combining two 1/3 sensors, one in BW mode, and somehow produce better pictures from two lower grade sensors. 2X bad information does not equal good information. Yeah, maybe they'll get a little extra detail out of the extra monochrome sensor. But it's not going to compete with a larger sensor. And it really doesn't look like they have even used the extra monochrome sensor well (while suffering the expense of severe shutter lag while the camera tries to interpolate the information from two sensors).

I'm really disappointed that they cheaped out on the camera and were overly obssessed with not having even the tiniest camera hump (which I think Samsung and Apple have proven people are totally fine with and still think their designs are great). What attracts me to the Essential phone is the large screen in a small phone size (and the titanium and ceramic are nice pluses); but I really don't give a damn about a perfectly flat back. To get the nice design with the screen I was willing to accept the lack of a 3.5 mm jack and other corners they cut on features. But they hyped the camera as being great, when they knew they had inferior sensors in it. If they can't get the things they do have in the phone right, it's hard for me to still want to get this phone (or trust this company).

I have a feeling that something like this played out:
Essential: Hi Qualcomm. We're Essential and we want to make a high-end phone. We're going to need Snapdragon 835s for that.
Qualcomm: Nice to meet you Essential. We really like your team and we love associating the Snapdragon name with high-end devices!
Essential: So... can we get those SD835s?
Qualcomm: I think we can come to an arrangement. All you need to do is join our Spectra Module Program. (pg. 15-16 https://www.qualcomm.com/media/docu...with-qualcomm-snapdragon-mobile-platforms.pdf)
Essential: So if we adopt one of your dual camera solutions, we'll get SD835 allocation for a summer launch?
Qualcomm: Sure and don't worry, you'll be amazed by the picture quality!

 

[graffixnyc]

I got my 360 camera yesterday, does anyone else's fan constantly run when it's connected to the phone? It seems to stop when you take a picture or video but other times the fan is constantly running

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[anandlal]

Comparison shots after the updated camera. Essential first, Google after.


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[jerflash]

I got my 360 camera yesterday, does anyone else's fan constantly run when it's connected to the phone? It seems to stop when you take a picture or video but other times the fan is constantly running

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Yes that is normal operation

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Comparison shots after the updated camera. Essential first, Google after.
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The camera is definitely better than it was but not the best still. I think the small sensor size will still hold it back

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[cb474]

I have a feeling that something like this played out:
Essential: Hi Qualcomm. We're Essential and we want to make a high-end phone. We're going to need Snapdragon 835s for that.
Qualcomm: Nice to meet you Essential. We really like your team and we love associating the Snapdragon name with high-end devices!
Essential: So... can we get those SD835s?
Qualcomm: I think we can come to an arrangement. All you need to do is join our Spectra Module Program. (pg. 15-16 https://www.qualcomm.com/media/docu...with-qualcomm-snapdragon-mobile-platforms.pdf)
Essential: So if we adopt one of your dual camera solutions, we'll get SD835 allocation for a summer launch?
Qualcomm: Sure and don't worry, you'll be amazed by the picture quality!

I guess that's plausible, but I don't really see why Qualcomm would force the dual camera down people's throats like that. Are they really going to turn away a paying customer for millions of SD835s, because they reject the dual camera? Essential is the client with the money.

I think it was more like:

Essential: We are making a phone like no other. No camera humps!
Qualcomm: As long as you're buying our SD835, you should try out Clear Sight dual camera technology (https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2...-photos-qualcomm-clear-sight-dual-camera-tech).
Essential: OMG!!!! We love it. Our genius handful of overworked programmers can definitely make a technology work that hasn't worked in any other phone that tried it (like those Xiaomi losers with the Mi 5s Plus and lameass return of the Nokia 8).
Qualcomm: Yes, you are geniuses, you can do it, we love you.
Essential: We love ourselves too!

As CNET recently said in their review of the Ph-1, about Essential as a company and all their screw ups: "The hubris still feels astounding."

See: https://www.cnet.com/products/essential-phone-ph-1/review/

 

[resident0915]

I guess that's plausible, but I don't really see why Qualcomm would force the dual camera down people's throats like that. Are they really going to turn away a paying customer for millions of SD835s, because they reject the dual camera? Essential is the client with the money.

Wouldn't that be nice if it was that easy to get allocation of Snapdragon 835s, especially as a start-up.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/04/20/demand-for-qualcomm-incs-snapdragon-835-exceeding.aspx

The people at Essential aren't idiots. I think they made a business decision that had to be made, or else they'd have a better camera. Qualcomm is pretty ruthless when it comes to business, as evident with some of their dealings that have become public recently. That's my theory at least

 

[takertx]

Has anyone tried this on their Essential phone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZO7f0MB0Ak

Seems to be a very interesting way to keep the premium look of the phone without the need for a case & at the same time save it from scratches of everyday use. Though I am not quite sure if all those sprays applied during the installation is going to do any harm to the phone which has no IP rating!

 

[cb474]

Wouldn't that be nice if it was that easy to get allocation of Snapdragon 835s, especially as a start-up.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/04/20/demand-for-qualcomm-incs-snapdragon-835-exceeding.aspx

The people at Essential aren't idiots. I think they made a business decision that had to be made, or else they'd have a better camera. Qualcomm is pretty ruthless when it comes to business, as evident with some of their dealings that have become public recently. That's my theory at least

I don't know. People can be very smart and technically proficient and have bad judgement. Essential has made a lot of bad choices, not just with the camera.

But, more importantly, I think that Essential has been clear that they are obsessed with the perfectly flat back being some kind of great design accomplishment, It's one of the features of the phone they mention all the time at promotional events. I really don't care about it and I see a lot of people saying the same thing. It's the screen (and very secondarily the titanium and ceramic materials) that make the Essential Phone stand out. But they seem to really think the flat back is some kind of amazing thing. So my impression is that the desire for a flat back drove the decision to use the dual camera setup, and try to get good low light photography and better detail in general that way, rather than do the obvious thing and use better hardware in the form of a 1/2.3 sensor (like all of the best phone cameras, U11, Pixel, S8).

I also really don't see what Qualcomm gets out of pushing their Clear Sight technology on companies. The benefit is to Sony who gets to sell two sensors, instead of one. But Clear Sight seems to be just another thing that Qualcomm has stuffed into their chipset to attract customers. They don't, as far as I know, get extra money for these things. Their strategy is just to put as much functionality as possible in their chipset (whether or not every phone uses them) to make the chipset more attractive to potential customers.

So, I just don't think it adds up. It is far more plausible that Essential made their own design decisions about the phone and the camera and not that component manufacturers forced them into those decisions.

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Has anyone tried this on their Essential phone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZO7f0MB0Ak

Seems to be a very interesting way to keep the premium look of the phone without the need for a case & at the same time save it from scratches of everyday use. Though I am not quite sure if all those sprays applied during the installation is going to do any harm to the phone which has no IP rating!

That seems largely if not entirely like a gimmick. They say the special self-healing skin can go up against a "brass brush." Brass is actually fairly soft on the Mohs scale of hardness, about 3. The Gorilla Grass on the front and the ceramic on the back both are resistant to much harder materials than that, before they scratch. About 8 or 9 for the ceramic and 6 or 7, I think, for the glass. I wouldn't be worrying about scratches too much with the Essential Phone. I would worry about the ceramic back shattering, since the harder a material the more brittle it is. And in JerryRighEverything's drop test the screen shattered from a fairly small drop, so the Essential Phone may be more fragile than average in that regard.

 

[808phoneaddict]

I don't know. People can be very smart and technically proficient and have bad judgement. Essential has made a lot of bad choices, not just with the camera.

But, more importantly, I think that Essential has been clear that they are obsessed with the perfectly flat back being some kind of great design accomplishment, It's one of the features of the phone they mention all the time at promotional events. I really don't care about it and I see a lot of people saying the same thing. It's the screen (and very secondarily the titanium and ceramic materials) that make the Essential Phone stand out. But they seem to really think the flat back is some kind of amazing thing. So my impression is that the desire for a flat back drove the decision to use the dual camera setup, and try to get good low light photography and better detail in general that way, rather than do the obvious thing and use better hardware in the form of a 1/2.3 sensor (like all of the best phone cameras, U11, Pixel, S8).

I also really don't see what Qualcomm gets out of pushing their Clear Sight technology on companies. The benefit is to Sony who gets to sell two sensors, instead of one. But Clear Sight seems to be just another thing that Qualcomm has stuffed into their chipset to attract customers. They don't, as far as I know, get extra money for these things. Their strategy is just to put as much functionality as possible in their chipset (whether or not every phone uses them) to make the chipset more attractive to potential customers.

So, I just don't think it adds up. It is far more plausible that Essential made their own design decisions about the phone and the camera and not that component manufacturers forced them into those decisions.

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That seems largely if not entirely like a gimmick. They say the special self-healing skin can go up against a "brass brush." Brass is actually fairly soft on the Mohs scale of hardness, about 3. The Gorilla Grass on the front and the ceramic on the back both are resistant to much harder materials than that, before they scratch. About 8 or 9 for the ceramic and 6 or 7, I think, for the glass. I wouldn't be worrying about scratches too much with the Essential Phone. I would worry about the ceramic back shattering, since the harder a material the more brittle it is. And in JerryRighEverything's drop test the screen shattered from a fairly small drop, so the Essential Phone may be more fragile than average in that regard.

I think if anything, the need for a case is more so needed (at least bumper type) because of the easily shattering screen. Altho, technically I think most phones today all have that same gorilla glass 5 so they should all be as vulnerable to shattering

 

[cb474]

I think if anything, the need for a case is more so needed (at least bumper type) because of the easily shattering screen. Altho, technically I think most phones today all have that same gorilla glass 5 so they should all be as vulnerable to shattering

How the screen is seated in the frame of the phone, the way the bevels around the screen are constructed, the way the sides of the phone are constructed, and the internal structure of the phone can all make a difference in how well the screen survives a fall, even if it's the same Gorilla Glass 5 material.

Anyway, the first instance of a broken ceramic back has turned up on reddit, from someone who didn't even drop the phone. Since ceramic is more fragile to shattering, I still think in the long run it is much more likely to be the thing that breaks more for Essential Phone users on average. Time will tell.

 

[808phoneaddict]

How the screen is seated in the frame of the phone, the way the bevels around the screen are constructed, the way the sides of the phone are constructed, and the internal structure of the phone can all make a difference in how well the screen survives a fall, even if it's the same Gorilla Glass 5 material.

Anyway, the first instance of a broken ceramic back has turned up on reddit, from someone who didn't even drop the phone. Since ceramic is more fragile to shattering, I still think in the long run it is much more likely to be the thing that breaks more for Essential Phone users on average. Time will tell.

Yeah I seen that... Guy said he puts it in his front pocket, made me wonder if it was a pressure thing as u sit when it's in your front pocket I can see it putting pressure on the top and bottom of the phone... Could have been a defective phone also with a weak spot... Not sure... Like you said, only time will tell...