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PhilMorin

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Feb 16, 2017
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I upgraded. Don't see any drawbacks so far. All apps seem to work, battery life is fine. If anything, it might be slightly better. System is snappy. Doesn't feel like a major update but doesn't feel like it broke anything. Gcam still works well. Haven't noticed any improvement with stock camera app.
 

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I upgraded. Don't see any drawbacks so far. All apps seem to work, battery life is fine. If anything, it might be slightly better. System is snappy. Doesn't feel like a major update but doesn't feel like it broke anything. Gcam still works well. Haven't noticed any improvement with stock camera app.
Yea no issues here either other than theming being broken. Hopefully that gets fixed quickfast
 
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omaralwardian

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I've been on Android 12 UI4 since a day before launch (work for a carrier here in Canada.)

All is ok.

I have identified these problems thus far:

*Seems like the time from a lower charge to a full charge takes longer than 3.1 R30. A PD 65W Charger with the Samsung in box cable renders a full charge from dead in approx 1 hour 45 mins. The power bounces significantly between 1000mAh and 3100mAh, and in last 5% goes to around 500mah, no matter the battery setting or charge setting. All fast, super fast charge options engaged, adaptive battery on or off, we we have used probably 50 brand new USBC cables on multiple outlets, the behavior remains.
*Expert RAW (new RAW camera for all 4 back lenses is extensively buggy and crashes a lot when processing shots with 3rd and 4th lenses.
*GCAM BSG worked with the front camera although not raw, now it just crashes, same thing with all of the GCams.
*Unable to access the Accessibility Menu in settings. We have discovered a way to get there via activity launcher, however the menu should work and it does not.
*In the last 7 days, OneUI had used almost 6% of total battery usage.
*Chrome Beta continues opening even when restricted, if left for extended period of time. I've forced it closed and shut and it has still consumed over 33%, of battery over L7D.
*A developers here was able to activate a second eSIM (3rd live account) using software I'm not familiar with, and it shows up in the network menu. I'm not in key with this, so I don't want to give instructions that I don't know.
*Boot time might be longer than before. This shouldn't happen considering this device has 16GB physical and 4GB pagesys RAM.
*Device care and Galaxy booster don't affect the processing speed.
*We haven't found any processing enhancements between "High" and "Maximum".
*It's possible notifications aren't coming in timely, or at all.
*The Google Home app went an entire week before updating so it didn't crash consistently on the Ultra after opening a speaker group.


Not sure if I'm missing anything here or not, anyone having the same problems? I haven't even gotten into some of the major problems we had with Android Auto, e.g. launch, and immediately crash and reopen, random crashes, assistant hanging in full 5G area, and the double prompt when responding to the assistant. Eg driving, tell it to send a text, and it will say ok who, *DING DING* and repeat the double ding constantly after responding to anything. Not to mention if it produces incorrect verbatim when sending a message, it occasionally says read to send it and boom, without even a response, ok, it's sent.

This can lead to extremely embarrassingly texts.

Oh, we are experiencing a problem, when you connect to a Bluetooth earphones set, and for example are listening to a read aloud page on Google Chrome or word, whatever it is, when you disconnect the Bluetooth connection, suddenly a music service begins playing through the speaker. 😆

Galaxy store shows black screen when searching apps as well.

Anyone having any similar problems?
 
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I've been on Android 12 UI4 since a day before launch (work for a carrier here in Canada.)

All is ok.

I have identified these problems thus far:

*Seems like the time from a lower charge to a full charge takes longer than 3.1 R30. A PD 65W Charger with the Samsung in box cable renders a full charge from dead in approx 1 hour 45 mins. The power bounces significantly between 1000mAh and 3100mAh, and in last 5% goes to around 500mah, no matter the battery setting or charge setting. All fast, super fast charge options engaged, adaptive battery on or off, we we have used probably 50 brand new USBC cables on multiple outlets, the behavior remains.
*Expert RAW (new RAW camera for all 4 back lenses is extensively buggy and crashes a lot when processing shots with 3rd and 4th lenses.
*GCAM BSG worked with the front camera although not raw, now it just crashes, same thing with all of the GCams.
*Unable to access the Accessibility Menu in settings. We have discovered a way to get there via activity launcher, however the menu should work and it does not.
*In the last 7 days, OneUI had used almost 6% of total battery usage.
*Chrome Beta continues opening even when restricted, if left for extended period of time. I've forced it closed and shut and it has still consumed over 33%, of battery over L7D.
*A developers here was able to activate a second eSIM (3rd live account) using software I'm not familiar with, and it shows up in the network menu. I'm not in key with this, so I don't want to give instructions that I don't know.
*Boot time might be longer than before. This shouldn't happen considering this device has 16GB physical and 4GB pagesys RAM.
*Device care and Galaxy booster don't affect the processing speed.
*We haven't found any processing enhancements between "High" and "Maximum".
*It's possible notifications aren't coming in timely, or at all.
*The Google Home app went an entire week before updating so it didn't crash consistently on the Ultra after opening a speaker group.


Not sure if I'm missing anything here or not, anyone having the same problems? I haven't even gotten into some of the major problems we had with Android Auto, e.g. launch, and immediately crash and reopen, random crashes, assistant hanging in full 5G area, and the double prompt when responding to the assistant. Eg driving, tell it to send a text, and it will say ok who, *DING DING* and repeat the double ding constantly after responding to anything. Not to mention if it produces incorrect verbatim when sending a message, it occasionally says read to send it and boom, without even a response, ok, it's sent.

This can lead to extremely embarrassingly texts.

Oh, we are experiencing a problem, when you connect to a Bluetooth earphones set, and for example are listening to a read aloud page on Google Chrome or word, whatever it is, when you disconnect the Bluetooth connection, suddenly a music service begins playing through the speaker. 😆

Galaxy store shows black screen when searching apps as well.

Anyone having any similar problems?
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That last part about music app playing after disconnecting from Bluetooth speaker happens to me too. But it's occasional, happens only wihj Spotify playing in the background, and only when I disconnect from my car BT (turn off the car without stopping playback). But this happens on one UI 3.1 as well so I'm not sure whether something is wrong with Samsung, Spotify or my car.

But thanks for the detailed description of your findings. There's a lot of hiccups with one UI 4. Nothing devastating but the sum of all niggles does make for a less than acceptable experience on a flagship device.
 

omaralwardian

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That last part about music app playing after disconnecting from Bluetooth speaker happens to me too. But it's occasional, happens only wihj Spotify playing in the background, and only when I disconnect from my car BT (turn off the car without stopping playback). But this happens on one UI 3.1 as well so I'm not sure whether something is wrong with Samsung, Spotify or my car.

But thanks for the detailed description of your findings. There's a lot of hiccups with one UI 4. Nothing devastating but the sum of all niggles does make for a less than acceptable experience on a flagship device.
Yep, but we had it happen with Spotify forced closed and when disconnection occured, it opened up and started playing on its own. 🤣
 
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Ipse_Tase

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Feb 29, 2012
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Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
I've been on Android 12 UI4 since a day before launch (work for a carrier here in Canada.)

All is ok.

I have identified these problems thus far:

*Seems like the time from a lower charge to a full charge takes longer than 3.1 R30. A PD 65W Charger with the Samsung in box cable renders a full charge from dead in approx 1 hour 45 mins. The power bounces significantly between 1000mAh and 3100mAh, and in last 5% goes to around 500mah, no matter the battery setting or charge setting. All fast, super fast charge options engaged, adaptive battery on or off, we we have used probably 50 brand new USBC cables on multiple outlets, the behavior remains.
*Expert RAW (new RAW camera for all 4 back lenses is extensively buggy and crashes a lot when processing shots with 3rd and 4th lenses.
*GCAM BSG worked with the front camera although not raw, now it just crashes, same thing with all of the GCams.
*Unable to access the Accessibility Menu in settings. We have discovered a way to get there via activity launcher, however the menu should work and it does not.
*In the last 7 days, OneUI had used almost 6% of total battery usage.
*Chrome Beta continues opening even when restricted, if left for extended period of time. I've forced it closed and shut and it has still consumed over 33%, of battery over L7D.
*A developers here was able to activate a second eSIM (3rd live account) using software I'm not familiar with, and it shows up in the network menu. I'm not in key with this, so I don't want to give instructions that I don't know.
*Boot time might be longer than before. This shouldn't happen considering this device has 16GB physical and 4GB pagesys RAM.
*Device care and Galaxy booster don't affect the processing speed.
*We haven't found any processing enhancements between "High" and "Maximum".
*It's possible notifications aren't coming in timely, or at all.
*The Google Home app went an entire week before updating so it didn't crash consistently on the Ultra after opening a speaker group.


Not sure if I'm missing anything here or not, anyone having the same problems? I haven't even gotten into some of the major problems we had with Android Auto, e.g. launch, and immediately crash and reopen, random crashes, assistant hanging in full 5G area, and the double prompt when responding to the assistant. Eg driving, tell it to send a text, and it will say ok who, *DING DING* and repeat the double ding constantly after responding to anything. Not to mention if it produces incorrect verbatim when sending a message, it occasionally says read to send it and boom, without even a response, ok, it's sent.

This can lead to extremely embarrassingly texts.

Oh, we are experiencing a problem, when you connect to a Bluetooth earphones set, and for example are listening to a read aloud page on Google Chrome or word, whatever it is, when you disconnect the Bluetooth connection, suddenly a music service begins playing through the speaker. 😆

Galaxy store shows black screen when searching apps as well.

Anyone having any similar problems?
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Thanks for taking the time to document all this...I was wondering why the S21Ultra subreddit is full with complaints and everything seemed fine in the cold North 🤣
I see a BUL1 floated around, looks to me that Samsung has their work cut out for them.
Using paying customers as QC testers is not ok in my books, but that's exactly what they are doing.
I would have been A-OK just getting security updates until January, February...even March instead of a rushed A12.
 

PhilMorin

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Feb 16, 2017
72
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I've been on Android 12 UI4 since a day before launch (work for a carrier here in Canada.)

All is ok.

I have identified these problems thus far:

Wow, you seem to be one unlucky guy! I haven't tested everything in your list but...

Charging speed is as fast as before

Android auto is very stable

No drain issue here (I do use chrome as my main browser so didn't try disabling it)

No issue with Google home and I use it daily.. Though I don't have speaker groups

Accessibility menu is accessible. I actually went in there to enable to extra dim option for when using the phone in pitch dark

Notifications are coming in just fine

Gcam I've noticed front camera showing only a dark screen but couldn't remember if it was working before as I prefer stock selfies... Only use gcam for inside shots, sport shots or zoom lenses using rear cams

Haven't yet tried their new camera raw app... But I think that's still in beta? Or at least in theory not officially available worldwide so I don't think we can really blame one UI4 for this one...

Anyway, just some counter feedback to yours. Weird how our experience completely differs

Edit: still getting a bit above 6h of screen time which is what I was getting before on average based on my own usage... Oh and in some games the phone doesn't get as hot as it used to. Haven't noticed higher thermal throttling or anything... So that's a benefit of this latest patch for me
 

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Oh...wow, seems that G99xW has been downgraded too.

Now stable channel just show Android 11 as downloadable update, meanwhile internal channel share the same build (BULB) of international models.

They must have found a really serious bug, even though I've never encountered it on my device. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Oh...wow, seems that G99xW has been downgraded too.

Now stable channel just show Android 11 as downloadable update, meanwhile internal channel share the same build (BULB) of international models.

They must have found a really serious bug, even though I've never encountered it on my device. 🤷‍♂️
Don't trust the Checkfirm application. All the time it's wrong . At least for me
 

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Don't trust the Checkfirm application. All the time it's wrong . At least for me
I don't trust of date shown by CheckFirm, but of buildnames.

Indeed today Samsung released BULD, always in the internal channel. So they are working on the next firmware release (maybe the one of January).
 

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    I have identified these problems thus far:

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    *Expert RAW (new RAW camera for all 4 back lenses is extensively buggy and crashes a lot when processing shots with 3rd and 4th lenses.
    *GCAM BSG worked with the front camera although not raw, now it just crashes, same thing with all of the GCams.
    *Unable to access the Accessibility Menu in settings. We have discovered a way to get there via activity launcher, however the menu should work and it does not.
    *In the last 7 days, OneUI had used almost 6% of total battery usage.
    *Chrome Beta continues opening even when restricted, if left for extended period of time. I've forced it closed and shut and it has still consumed over 33%, of battery over L7D.
    *A developers here was able to activate a second eSIM (3rd live account) using software I'm not familiar with, and it shows up in the network menu. I'm not in key with this, so I don't want to give instructions that I don't know.
    *Boot time might be longer than before. This shouldn't happen considering this device has 16GB physical and 4GB pagesys RAM.
    *Device care and Galaxy booster don't affect the processing speed.
    *We haven't found any processing enhancements between "High" and "Maximum".
    *It's possible notifications aren't coming in timely, or at all.
    *The Google Home app went an entire week before updating so it didn't crash consistently on the Ultra after opening a speaker group.


    Not sure if I'm missing anything here or not, anyone having the same problems? I haven't even gotten into some of the major problems we had with Android Auto, e.g. launch, and immediately crash and reopen, random crashes, assistant hanging in full 5G area, and the double prompt when responding to the assistant. Eg driving, tell it to send a text, and it will say ok who, *DING DING* and repeat the double ding constantly after responding to anything. Not to mention if it produces incorrect verbatim when sending a message, it occasionally says read to send it and boom, without even a response, ok, it's sent.

    This can lead to extremely embarrassingly texts.

    Oh, we are experiencing a problem, when you connect to a Bluetooth earphones set, and for example are listening to a read aloud page on Google Chrome or word, whatever it is, when you disconnect the Bluetooth connection, suddenly a music service begins playing through the speaker. 😆

    Galaxy store shows black screen when searching apps as well.

    Anyone having any similar problems?
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