Car Panel

[xwing_5]

Not a problem feel free to click the thanks button.

On more thought, from what you just said, your phone is obviously rooted, so another thing to think about is do you have the right combination of radio, ril, settings etc. If your phone is set up wrong, it might be for example, 'busting its nuts' keeping a lock on the gps or downloading data. This it gets hot.
You said all the right things though, (about waiting a bit) test it a bit, change one thing, and repeat.... The number of people who change 6 things and then never know what made a difference to what...

Marty




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Actually I do not know the first thing on how to root the phone!!

The Circular Battery, according to this thread does not require a rooted phone to work. :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8639993#post8639993

And the HTC Car Panel was a .apk that I also got from here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114510&page=2

Is it possible that I NEED to root the phone?

 

[artymarty]

Actually I do not know the first thing on how to root the phone!!

The Circular Battery, according to this thread does not require a rooted phone to work. :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8639993#post8639993

And the HTC Car Panel was a .apk that I also got from here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114510&page=2

Is it possible that I NEED to root the phone?

No one NEEDS to root their phone, but it's FUN.
there is a version of the battery mod that needs a rooted phone, sorry I thought that was what you had.

OK, so you are not rooted, that's good for you, because it eliminates about 100 reasons why your phone might get hot and overheat. (don't let this put you off if you were thinking of rooting though! - but I wouldn't do it just yet )

Warmly, Marty


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[xwing_5]

So I let the phone charge all night and put it on the car dock this morning and turned on Navigation. It got hot but not as hot as it was before. So I was temporarily relieved. Well at lunch time I put the phone on the car dock again, this time it actually needed to charge unlike the situation this morning where it had been charging all night. This time I did NOT turn the navigation on. It got hot. WAY WAY HOT!!! So I did the test that Marty suggested to see what my cigarette lighter was actually outputting with engine off and with it turned on. I was getting about 13 amps even when I was revving up the engine. So I am thinking that this is a defective charger or car dock. Reasoning: when I charged the phone at home using the supplied micro USB with the wall plug it got warm but not HOT like it was at lunch time.

Off to the t-mobil store again to make the exchange. Will post results later.

Anyone have these same heat related issues with the car dock?

 

[artymarty]

So I let the phone charge all night and put it on the car dock this morning and turned on Navigation. It got hot but not as hot as it was before. So I was temporarily relieved. Well at lunch time I put the phone on the car dock again, this time it actually needed to charge unlike the situation this morning where it had been charging all night. This time I did NOT turn the navigation on. It got hot. WAY WAY HOT!!! So I did the test that Marty suggested to see what my cigarette lighter was actually outputting with engine off and with it turned on. I was getting about 13 amps even when I was revving up the engine. So I am thinking that this is a defective charger or car dock. Reasoning: when I charged the phone at home using the supplied micro USB with the wall plug it got warm but not HOT like it was at lunch time.

Off to the t-mobil store again to make the exchange. Will post results later.

Anyone have these same heat related issues with the car dock?

(assuming you mean volts not amps above )
Before you take it back, try one more thing for me if you can. Have it in the charger dock tomorrow not fully charged (so the doc is charging it) but DON'T use NAVIGATION.
See how hot that gets. If it gets hot, it's your charger doc for sure, as that should only make it warm.

Even if you use it for playing mp3's in the car dock it should only get warm while charging.

Oh, just a note: those $1.50 usb socket car chargers from ebay are a pile of **** too, so don't be tempted haha. Your phone won't get hot, but won't even charge fast enough to keep up with the gps drain either...

Personally I use a cheap $2 plastic phone holder and a genuine htc car usb dual port charger. (htc car chargers are great and work as fast as charging from AC wall adapter.) Only issue is it does not automatically activate dock mode.
You can hack it to do that, but I can't be bothered.

Marty

Sent from the future using a sensational Z710a size rip in the space-time continuum

 

[xwing_5]

I had it in the car dock with the Navigation off and it got really hot.

Now I need to test the cigarette lighter adapter alone: bypassing the car dock, to see if the problem is the cigarette adapter or the car dock.

 

[Rumball]

HTC have made it that way on new versions of sense. Sometimes it works if you uninstall or delete or freeze locations (there are three apk's in the set though.) or use "select other map for htc" from the market. First time you nav it asks, after that, auto google maps!

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Thanks Marty! Wasn't aware of this app. Now all we need is for that developer to figure out how to prevent HTC Locations from auto-launching when Car Mode is enabled.

 

[artymarty]

Thanks Marty! Wasn't aware of this app. Now all we need is for that developer to figure out how to prevent HTC Locations from auto-launching when Car Mode is enabled.

Send the Dev an email, most of them are quick to respond..

 

[xwing_5]

this is the apk for htc car panel works perfect in my sensation enjoy:

Will I have problems if I download the .apk in the beginning of the thread and install on a stock non-rooted out of the box HTC Sensation?

 

[xwing_5]

Will I have problems if I download the .apk in the beginning of the thread and install on a stock non-rooted out of the box HTC Sensation?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

 

[pakraider]

The Car Panel app will work just fine on a stock non-rooted Sensation. (I was using it on mine)

As for auto-launching Locations.. I was able to get Car Panel to auto-launch in my car dock on InsertCoin. I removed the DockMode.apk from system/app and replaced it with DockMode.apk from a T-Mobile based ROM. Now, the car icon shows up in the taskbar when plugged into the dock, and the Car Panel comes up.

The reason it gets hot is because the Car Panel app keeps a GPS fix as long as it's open.. no clue why. I got around the issue by setting a Tasker profile to turn GPS off when Car Panel is running. It naturally switches GPS back on when exiting the profile (i.e. when exiting Car Panel or running another app), so Maps and Navigation still work just fine. Now it stays cool and charges rapidly as it should with a proper car charger plugged into the dock.

 

[xwing_5]

Thanks pakraider!!

Con you please post or pm me a step by step process on how you did this?:

I got around the issue by setting a Tasker profile to turn GPS off when Car Panel is running. It naturally switches GPS back on when exiting the profile (i.e. when exiting Car Panel or running another app), so Maps and Navigation still work just fine. Now it stays cool and charges rapidly as it should with a proper car charger plugged into the dock.

As I said earlier in the thread I and an Android Newbie, I have a non rooted stock Sensation and have no idea on how to do what you stated above.

Thanks again,

xwing

 

[pakraider]

Instructions:

Firstly, you'll need an app called Tasker to do this. I think it's about $6 in the Market. Trust me, it's MORE THAN WORTH the money! Don't hesitate about the price. It lets you automate almost everything on your phone and customize it as much as you want.

Once you have Tasker installed, you'll need to setup profiles. A profile is like a trigger that lets you program Tasker to do something when certain conditions are met.

In our case, we need a profile that runs when the Car Panel app is launched. The action performed in this profile will be to turn off GPS. This way, whenever the Car Panel pops open after docking the phone, the profile will be triggered and GPS will turn off. By default, any changes to settings will return to their previous state afterwards, so GPS will turn back on whenever we leave Car Panel.

This works great, except the Navigation app doesn't play nicely. Tasker takes some milliseconds to turn GPS back on, and the Navigation app complains right away that GPS is off (even though it is on by the time the app actually loads up). The fix is another profile that will dismiss the notification from Navigation, quickly flip back to Car Panel, turn GPS on again, and return to Navigation. All of this takes less than half a second, so it's no big deal.

Tasker lets you import profiles that people have already made. I've attached mine to this post. Unzip, and copy the files to the Tasker/profiles folder on your SD card. Then, run Tasker, hit the menu button on your phone, and hit Profile Data. Choose Import One Profile, and choose Car_Dock. Repeat this to import Maps and Navigation.

Hope this helps!

 

[spoks]

... Only issue is it does not automatically activate dock mode.
You can hack it to do that, but I can't be bothered.

Marty

Sent from the future using a sensational Z710a size rip in the space-time continuum

Do You have any information how to do that?

 

[artymarty]

Do You have any information how to do that?

Do a Google on 'home made htc car doc'
I am not sure where I saw it, or what it was.
I decided I couldn't be bothered to do it in the end as I am too busy with uni.

I know if you short out the middle two pins of the usb it it forces the phone to see a "wall charger " not a car charger, and with a car kit I think it was that but with a resistor.
I read so many for so many phones its all a blur now...
I also know some phones use magnets in different positions for different modes.. It's actually fascinating stuff to research..

Warmly, Marty

Sent from the future using a sensational Z710a size rip in the space-time continuum

 

[xwing_5]

Instructions:

Firstly, you'll need an app called Tasker to do this. I think it's about $6 in the Market. Trust me, it's MORE THAN WORTH the money! Don't hesitate about the price. It lets you automate almost everything on your phone and customize it as much as you want.

Once you have Tasker installed, you'll need to setup profiles. A profile is like a trigger that lets you program Tasker to do something when certain conditions are met.

In our case, we need a profile that runs when the Car Panel app is launched. The action performed in this profile will be to turn off GPS. This way, whenever the Car Panel pops open after docking the phone, the profile will be triggered and GPS will turn off. By default, any changes to settings will return to their previous state afterwards, so GPS will turn back on whenever we leave Car Panel.

This works great, except the Navigation app doesn't play nicely. Tasker takes some milliseconds to turn GPS back on, and the Navigation app complains right away that GPS is off (even though it is on by the time the app actually loads up). The fix is another profile that will dismiss the notification from Navigation, quickly flip back to Car Panel, turn GPS on again, and return to Navigation. All of this takes less than half a second, so it's no big deal.

Tasker lets you import profiles that people have already made. I've attached mine to this post. Unzip, and copy the files to the Tasker/profiles folder on your SD card. Then, run Tasker, hit the menu button on your phone, and hit Profile Data. Choose Import One Profile, and choose Car_Dock. Repeat this to import Maps and Navigation.

Hope this helps!

I installed Tasker, followed your instructions and installed the profiles that you attached in the .zip file. Everything seems to work, although I only tested it for about 5 minutes in the car. Usually in that amount of time the phone got really really hot without your work around. This time it only got warm, which still kind of bugs me, but I did try the navigation for about 30m seconds to make sure that it worked. That may be the reason why it is warm.

Now that I have Tasker I will also add a profile to turn on Blue-Tooth while in the car dock. Should I just add it to your car dock profile or create a new one?

The ultimate profile would be to create a task that remembers where your last location was when you turned the blue tooth off and then automatically turn it back on once you get back there!!

 

[pakraider]

Usually in that amount of time the phone got really really hot without your work around. This time it only got warm, which still kind of bugs me, but I did try the navigation for about 30m seconds to make sure that it worked. That may be the reason why it is warm.

It will still get warm because it's charging. Once it's fully charged though, it will cool down, just as it would if you were charging it on your desk.

Also, if your dock is exposed to sunlight, remember that the sun will warm it up a bit too. The getting hot was due to the GPS fix always being on, which is bad software on HTC's part. Perhaps a smart dev can mod the Car Panel app to stop that.

Now that I have Tasker I will also add a profile to turn on Blue-Tooth while in the car dock. Should I just add it to your car dock profile or create a new one?

The ultimate profile would be to create a task that remembers where your last location was when you turned the blue tooth off and then automatically turn it back on once you get back there!!

Yep, you can just add it to the existing profile.

And nothing is stopping you from making that bluetooth profile you're talking about. That's the beauty of Tasker, you really can do almost anything you want!

p.s. Tasker has built-in location capability (i.e. you can use location to trigger a profile)

 

[Golubev]

Choose app when insert phone in cradle

Could you provide me with app or possibility to tune up wich application will run automatically when i insert phone in car dock? I Hate HTC Navigation and want to have a choice which program will run immediately after car docking?
So I find a method through Gemini App Man how to disable autorun Location in Car Mode. Now nothing start after cardocking, but how to tell to system to run something i want?

 

[davemazo]

Could you provide me with app or possibility to tune up wich application will run automatically when i insert phone in car dock? I Hate HTC Navigation and want to have a choice which program will run immediately after car docking?
So I find a method through Gemini App Man how to disable autorun Location in Car Mode. Now nothing start after cardocking, but how to tell to system to run something i want?

Think a paid for App called Tasker should be able to do what you want. Apparently it can automate virtually anything, don`t ask me how though it is far too complicated for me

 

[Golubev]

Think a paid for App called Tasker should be able to do what you want. Apparently it can automate virtually anything, don`t ask me how though it is far too complicated for me

Already had Tasker, but his do not have some kind event like - cardocking! (Docking - is different)

 

[xwing_5]

Already had Tasker, but his do not have some kind event like - cardocking! (Docking - is different)

Tasker is not the easiest program to use but CarDock is there somewhere, you just need to do a lot of fiddling around to find it.

I want to use the CarDock to automatically turn on Bluetooth with the use of Tasker. With Tasker I found the CarDock app(dont ask me to repeat the process: just dumb luck I guess), then I try to set a "task" and found "Blutooth settings" however I do not know how to tell "blutooth settings" to turn on bluetooth", then turn off when unplugged from the CarDock. Right now the bluetooth settings menu comes up when i use the car dock. I click turn on, it turns on and then stays on the bluetooth settings screen and does not go back to the HTC Navigation Panel.

Still fiddling with it.

Looks to be a good app but there are no decent instructions, at least none that I have been able to find, in order to use it. The developers instructions are greatly lacking:
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/index.html