Change.org Petition AT&T Re: Bootloader Unlock: now with 1,678 supporters

[dxp2_sw]

I signed it and shared on Facebook, Twitter, and Google+

 

[kenscivic]

I'm signed up!!

 

[rambo6]

Samsung has now completely caved to AT&T. I've cast my vote by not only signing the petition but I'm done buying Samsung products with locked bootloaders. In fact, I passed up the Note 3 and bought a Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 is easy to root and it has global LTE unlike the paltry 2 or 3 LTE bands Samsung is putting in its region-locked phones. My next buy will be a LG G3 or Nexus 6. I'm through with this carrier controlled hardware BS. Google's project Ara will be wildly successful and hopefully break the necks of the controlling carrier beasts and allow true competition in the phone hardware market place.

Also, the new boyz on the block - One Plus, Huawei, and Oppo should also provide compelling products at competitive prices.

The carriers will have to compete on the price and quality of their data for once. Glorious days lie ahead.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

 

[rekamyenom]

There are over 5.5 MILLION XDA Members with 50K logged in at any given time, Spread the word to sign the petition! It should be mandatory for all XDA members to sign it. Spread the Word !! XDA alone should be able to generate 100K Signatures !!

 

[hp79]

But does this get us anywhere? I signed long time ago, but change.org looks like scam to me. They ask $100 for showing (advertising) to 500 potential people. T-mobile's Note3 is not locked, so why would anyone in their right mind waste their time and try to crack AT&T version of Note3? I'm kicking myself for upgrading to NC2 Kitkat, and believe there won't be any further development, not even root. I'm done with AT&T as soon as my contract is over next April. I called today to their retention department, and mentioned t-mobile paying up ETF and their cheaper plans. I got $50 credit from them. I'm going to call and ask for these kind of retention credit every time there is a chance.

 

[CyberGhos]

I don't see a pettition going anywhere. They aren't going to change unless the law requires them to change or see bunch of customers leaving taking their profit away. And we will never see that either because this country is about big coorporations, and all their competitors are kind of doing the same thing one way or another. We are helpless and hopeless. We are desperate .

 

[edounn]

signed and shared.

this is unreal. I broke my galaxy note 3, and bought another one.. (both full price) and didn't get around to rooting my new one in time.

going to return my second one. it might be a small gesture, but this behavior cannot be tolerated.

could I bother anyone for a 1+ invite, please!


also, just a few words to others who are viewing this as hopeless. just a friendly reminder. We're actually the ones in charge. We are the exact people who encourage others to buy tech. We are the people who can choose what to buy, and what we advise others to buy. We are actually completely in charge. We shall never fear a company! They are nothing without us! This is just a reminder; that if we do nothing, then nothing is done, and companies will ACTIVELY take advantage of it. The future of this mentallity will cost us our internet and the ability to create new and better things.

 

[903tex]

Money is the problem. Samsung wants to make more money and keep it coming and by doing security measure makes the masses more comfortable and has iPhone users wanting to switch to android feel they have the same security as their iPhone by switch to Samsung. It's time to move on to phones with better ways of root and custom roms if that's what you are looking for. If you stay hope your doing it for the Samsung features cause if not then sell it while you can get a decent penny on the note.

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[Phatboyj420]

Both Samsung & AT&T will be getting posts from me daily until there is an acceptable resolution.

I've got 2 days left to decide wether or not to return my Note 3 in exchange for the HTC One M8 I just hope I'm making the right descission by holding out for eventual root for the Note 3 that I got 10 days ago with 4.4.2 NCS already on it.


EDIT

I got lucky as far as I was able to get AT&T to exchange my device for one still on MJ5 JB
Thanks to a suggestion some one else made here on XDA about doing the same at a SES in Best Buy
The problem for me was that I didn't buy mine from BB but from AT&T directly. Any how without the before mentioned suggestion I might not have thought to do this and would have been stuck with an unrootable Note 3 like many others are still.

I love XDA it and its members posts are helpful beyond imagine.

 

[Phatboyj420]

"I personally have and will be posting the following rants on every Relative social media sight until there is an acceptable resolution for both current and future Carrier branded Samsung devices"

Feel free to copy and paste from here or Download the .docx file attached (bottom of post)

I am also open to ideas as to where to post (other than the obvious)





My Locked Boot loader Rants For posting

you decide what to post where Social media sites listed on the 3rd page


I post this one on sites 1-3 (1 2 & 3) listed on Pg.3


Petition Support Rant



All AT&T/Verizon Samsung Note 3 And beyond users "including the S5" should sign this petition:

The following change.org petition is for the Note 3 but the S5 is in the same boat as far as having the same locked bootloader. So in reality it applies to both devices as well as any future Samsung device so Please don't let that stop you from signing because the end result if ever successful will be the same for all devices and carrier variants alike.

Change.org petition Sign Here: http://chn.ge/192KeHy

I added Verizon to my post because if AT&T or Verizon are eventually persuaded the other would soon follow suit as,
"AT&T and Verizon are in the same boat, Tokin the same whack"

You can further support the cause by going to the following links and following the directions within. Verizon users just post the same on the Verizon Facebook page.

"again" The following links are for the Note 3 but the S5 is in the same boat as far as having the same locked bootloader. So in reality it applies to both devices as well as any future AT&T/Verizon Carrier branded Samsung device.

Link#1= XDA bootloader petition thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470167

Link#2=AT&T Note 3 Unlocked/Bootloader Bounty thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708609

For Verizon unlocked/Bootloader bounty Look for you device thread on XDA developers forum as I'm sure you have a bounty thread specific to your device the same advice applies to AT&T/Verizon Samsung S5 device users as well

"As it seems"
developers have come to a stalemate against the official 4.4.2 KK Bootloaders The above listed measures may be our only hope at ever getting to use our devices to their fully intended potential ,"best case scenario"

"Worst Case"
we will continue to disrupt AT&T, Verizon, and Samsung's social media sites until the problem is resolved to our content.

"AT the very least"
We will have warned other potential AT&T/Verizon customers of the problem and hopefully sway them from a regrettable purchase.




I post this one on sites 2 & 4 listed on Pg.3



Samsung Rant



Samsung please allow us to unlock our bootloaders On all AT&T and Verizon carrier branded 2013/2014 Samsung devices, Like HTC & Motorola allow through a tool provided on their sites. I personally purchase android devices because they are open source but you totally impede that advantage by locking down the device. Now I can't use the device at its full potential. HTC & Motorola understand this, why don't you? I fully understand that Samsung locked their bootloaders at the request of the carriers. The problem with that is, it should be the end users decision and not the carriers. There for you should provide a software tool, "similar to Motorola or HTC's", to allow us (the end users) to unlock our bootloaders as we (the end users) see fit.

Fair warning,
If a suitable resolution cannot be found you will be losing business to your above mentioned competitors





I post this one on site 1 listed on Pg.3



AT&T Rant



At&T/Samsung please allow us to unlock our bootloaders On all AT&T carrier branded 2013/2014 Samsung devices, Like HTC & Motorola allow through a tool provided on their sites. I personally purchase android devices because they are open source but you totally impede that advantage by locking down the device. Now I can't use the device at its full potential. HTC & Motorola understand this, why don't you? I fully understand that Samsung locked their bootloaders at the request of the carrier. The problem is it should be the end users decision and not the carriers there for you should provide a software tool, "similar to Motorola or HTC's", to allow us (the end users) to unlock our bootloaders as we (the end users) see fit.



I added the Verizon rant only because
they are doing the axact same thing as AT&T and if we succeed with one carrier the other is likely to follow suit. (Common Sense)


I post this one on site 3 listed on Pg.3



Verizon Rant



Verizon/Samsung please allow us to unlock our bootloaders On all Verizon carrier branded 2013/2014 Samsung devices, Like HTC & Motorola allow through a tool provided on their sites. I personally purchase android devices because they are open source but you totally impede that advantage by locking down the device. Now I can't use the device at its full potential. HTC & Motorola understand this, why don't you? I fully understand that Samsung locked their bootloaders at the request of the carrier. The problem is it should be the end users decision and not the carriers there for you should provide a software tool, "similar to Motorola or HTC's", to allow us (the end users) to unlock our bootloaders as we (the end users) see fit.






Social Media Sites for Posting


1.) https://www.facebook.com/ATT


2.) https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile


3.) https://www.facebook.com/verizon


4.) https://www.facebook.com/SRSROOT









Use the above as well as the attached file any way you'd like

 

[Knight-Rider]

Both Samsung & AT&T will be getting posts from me daily until there is an acceptable resolution.

I've got 2 days left to decide wether or not to return my Note 3 in exchange for the HTC One M8 I just hope I'm making the right descission by holding out for eventual root for the Note 3 that I got 10 days ago with 4.4.2 NCS already on it.


EDIT

I got lucky as far as I was able to get AT&T to exchange my device for one still on MJ5 JB
Thanks to a suggestion some one else made here on XDA about doing the same at a SES in Best Buy
The problem for me was that I didn't buy mine from BB but from AT&T directly. Any how without the before mentioned suggestion I might not have thought to do this and would have been stuck with an unrootable Note 3 like many others are still.

I love XDA it and its members posts are helpful beyond imagine.

Phatboyj420 can you let me know what exactly you did at Best Buy and you who you spoke to? I would like to swap my Note 3 as well. Thanks.

 

[jondoe27]

Just signed. There are more than 2000 signatures already.

 

[davidwritesmusic]

Just went and signed the petition hopefully this will get some steam

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Free mobile app

 

[Phatboyj420]

Phatboyj420 can you let me know what exactly you did at Best Buy and you who you spoke to? I would like to swap my Note 3 as well. Thanks.

It depends If you bought yours Originally from Best Buy Or At&t.

If Best-Buy

THen you should go to the nearest Best-Buy that has a Samsung Experience Shop "A.K.A.=SES" with-in and tell them that your job requires you to use apps that are not currently compatible with Kit-Kat, " if they ask you are not entirely sure which apps at the moment, you just know what your boss told you "play dumb"" There-fore you need to exchange your hopefully newly purchased Note-3 for one that is still running JB they can tell simply by looking at the SoftWare Version# on the side of the box the one u need will be SW-VER : N900AUCUBMJ5, OR similar ending in MI1, MI9, or NB4 "all are Jelly Bean", You just don't wan't one ending in NC2=Kit-Kat. " I am not entirely sure on the NB4 model but i'm pretty sure I read that it can be rooted via Kingo-Root's newest version "
They will find the model # you're looking for on the side of the box where all of the bar codes are at the top left of the barcode sticker, they/you will see
SM-N900A In Bold directly underneath it will say
Phone Made In Korea directly underneath is the # you are referencing, to them. If you are lucky they will have one in stock still on JB if not, I personally would try every BB's SES around, closest first of-course
Note: the store hours listed online for the BB SES is 9am in reality they don't open the SES until 11:00am I found this the hard way

If AT&T

All that being said if you are like me and did not originally purchase your device at or from BB, and instead purchased at or from AT&T directly
then you will have to do as I did instead.

Which is simply follow the same advice " as detailed above in the (if Best-Buy) section ", but go to the closest AT&T company store instead.

Again if one store doesn't have it or is unwilling to exchange try another I had on my side the fact that it was within the AT&T 14 day allotted exchange/return period

Also
I told them that the color didn't matter as long as it's on JB I went in with a black Kit-Kat and came out with a smile, and a White Jelly-Bean Note 3

I have to the best of my ability shared all the knowledge I can think to be relevantly helpful
I hope this helps

 

[Knight-Rider]

The problem is I purchased it from Craigslist but meet the person at an AT&T. The idiot I purchased it from had just updated to Kit Kat a few days before I purchased it. So my question to you now would be wth do I do now lol. I don't think AT&T would swap it out just like that especially since I don't have insurance on it, there's nothing wrong with the phone they'll pull that card on me. Thanks

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using xda app-developers app

 

[vampiro]

I would like to know what the hell is AT&T and every other carrier trying to achieve here?


THE OS AND THE LIMITATIONS
As most of us know, Google OS (Android) which is a Linux based OS under the Open Source License. Samsung is the manufacturer for the products with the latest and the greatest available features to build and compete against other manufacturers products and develop the basic software for these features to operate and provide the user with more tools on hand. AT&T is just operating and selling devices that are against this privilege for the user under the OS license. One of the privileges of Open Source is that the OS has community support and the ability to change and modify the kernel as the user and community see fit. The rest of the software that is created for this OS is under the same license policy. Is Samsung/AT&T infringing such licenses? AT&T is restricting and limiting, the possibilities and privileges the software/hardware and every update the OS may bring, perhaps we should request Cyanogenmod come up with a workaround with their OS, even Google provide an GPe OS for these devices to have, such as Apple for the Iphone which every phone comes with the same OS regardless the carrier. I think Google should regulate the OS and restrict Carriers or Manufacturers to restrict the OS the way they do.


CONSUMER DISADVANTAGES
Every single phone being sold whether from Google Store (GPe OS-Unlocked) or XYZ-Carrier (Network Locked) is profit to all of the above companies. Why should they mess around with products the way they do? We pay for the devices full price (Google Store) or locked with a carrier for 2 year agreement and pay for the device their price tags and consume minutes, texts and data as this is a requirement most of the times while acquiring these products. The consumer agrees to their service terms, pay for a device in different options and yet we are limited on what we do and how we use these devices we pay for. Who is the owner of the device after pay off? Devices are locked after the contract expires, why not the same with OS restrictions the same?


ANDROID OS CARRIER UPDATE PROCESS
Carriers and manufacturers should not regulate or have the last word and decision what goes on the device. (see here http://goo.gl/rqte9c)

We can see the repercussions these limitations are having to carriers by implementing bad decisions, or sticking their noses on regulating software for devices. One good example is the cost of carrier services, offered devices and limitations on software. We see, hear and we switch to prepaid services or carriers despite service quality. With other smaller carrier affordable services and devices focused on allowing the consumer/users to be able to reach, bigger carriers loose loyalty customers and become affected by their own practices.

I have been a loyal customer to AT&T and T-Mo for a long time. AT&T's Viva Mexico Plan is the best as I can travel to MX often and have one device without extra charges for LD or Roaming to/from MX. Coverage wise, I'm happy as 98% of the time I have coverage and data is decent for the price. However, since T-Mo has had Hotspot available on their devices, I have had tablets with T-Mo for about 3 years. If AT&T offered this service, I would switch immediately, but that is not the case.


MY ADVICE TO THE CARRIERS
- AT&T - Better go back and RE-THINK on more POSSIBLE ways to offer the quality services you offer without restricting the devices. "The more you give, the more you get"
- T-Mobile - If there was a way to offer more devices and MX plans, more customers under your belt.

I think that the initial intention of restricting devices with a network lock has gone too far. Your only concern should be, I buy the phone form you, my phone only operates with your network, and I keep being a loyal customer. If most popular Android device were available for all carriers, there wouldn't be a need to unlock devices. Perhaps, manufacturers and Google should partner up and have these devices available on Play Store as GPe devices for XYZ-carrier.

- I can choose to update of stay with my OS as it is.
- I have benefit to have the latest OS release as it is released form OEM.
- My phone's OS is not manipulated by you.
- Google provide the OS for 2.x, 3.x, 4.x for any android phone, hardware permits.
- Google allow/provide OS backup of the entire nand as a minimum for user. (This is the primary reason, I think, most root phones for)


Why should it be that much different that purchasing a computer and then installing a new OS if we like? Consider what Microsoft 8 to 8.1 turned out.


CHANGES
This is just my opinion and point of view about the whole messy deal about root privileges and rooting devices. I have four GN3 from AT&T for my wife, daughters and my self. I root my devices to be able to do device backups as sometimes apps are installed and have negative effects and I have to restore my devices with all of my files and apps, but data that goes with apps is lost and this is a big deal to me. I would love to have a device with an OS that uses external SD to store apps data, in case I had to replace a device, or simply chose to update my device and re-install apps and data could be much easier as app data resides on external SD. Internal storage of device should be use for that - storage. I see it pointless to have two storage locations for my device. Most items are pictures, video and music, which by the way I constantly move to my computer to make room for new pictures/video and newer music. Most document files are on cloud storage as is accessible everywhere I need it. In such case, external storage should be movable to available for apps and app's data in due case I need to access the same app on other devices and be less redundant with the same app and different data on all my devices. Google should move on to update these features and resources on the OS not hardware. Apple does a great job with OS reliability, why should Google be the exception as there are more partners and available manufacturers for phone peripherals.

Now, with wearables is going in the same direction. I would like to see a watch, more like a bracelet with a wider screen for other than making phone calls, replying text, playing games or any other silliness. That's the whole deal about manufacturers developing bigger/brighter screens, right?


CONCLUSION
If I was a developer or worked for Google, I would provably create a bracelet with the possibility to operate more like Google Glass, No hands - No hassle. Something as an extension of my phone to be able to see time, date, weather, notifications for texts, heart rate monitor, two-way camera for quick video chat, connect to blue tooth to make phone calls though hands free head set, and other small features - simple is better.

I might end up selling each one of my GN3's and switch to Google Play Editions in the near future. Cleaner OS, faster OS update releases and open for rooting.


YOUR INPUT
What would you like different form Android OS, Manufacturers or Carriers?

 

[BerkleyJ]

I am selling my Note 3 still running Jelly Bean on Swappa if anyone is interested. http://swappa.com/listing/XUM546/view

 

[wilkerjnc]

Signing the Petition.

Was 2066, now 2067.

 

[moin786]

Please spread this message to everyone and keep this thread active guys...

 

[SpikeyPsyche]

Please spread this message to everyone and keep this thread active guys...

Yes... Not like it's a lost cause or anything...