Chefs - Why use hybrids builds

JoeWilcox

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I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.

Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
 

aruppenthal

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I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.

Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
There are alot of reasons for making a hybrid. The main reason is taking the best of everything. a dll from here, a package from there, a sys from here, a xip from there. You are right that it can be quirky. However it can also yield incredible roms if done right.

Honestly there is no great location for packages. Most of them are collected over time. I have several hundred that it has taken me years to get. Probably about half of those are now out of date. The best thing you can do is just start searching. If there are any specific ones you need let me know and ill see if I have them.
 

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I'm a novice chef and I'm seeing more and more people use a hybrid build for their roms. For example, NATF is using 21009 which he got from Da_G and I'm wondering why? I've been using NATF's ROMS has a base for my customizations and I'm looking to start building my own base. Since NATF went away from the stock AT&T ROM I've noticed the hybrids are quirky so I'm trying to get a handle on why chefs are using them as I go forward.

Also, is there a good collection of Packages somewhere for bundling in to a rom?
Hybrid builds may introduce some quirks, but they rarely cause "dealbreakers" as I've seen some problems referred to lately.

Two positive examples of hybrid builds that immediately spring to mind are: MS Voice Command [was broken in Fuze stock ROM - needed a new DLL and OS build to correct], and GPS Navigation [horrible in Fuze stock ROM for 99% of people - needed Blackstone/Diamond drivers and registry changes to correct].

One dealbreaker would be: Captain Throwback. When he flashed to my ROM based on 21009, his Exchange connection suddenly stopped working. This began as a dealbreaker, but ended up being narrowed down to his SD card being partitioned, which OS 21009 didn't like. This is a quirk that was resolved by creating one big SD card.


Unfortunately that hasn't been a good collection of ROM packages created for the Raphael yet. On the Kaiser, _Alex_ distributed a modified version of KaiserKitchen along with a rather large collection of QVGA packages.
 

JoeWilcox

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I totally agree that spot fixes like the GPS/DirectX drivers from the Blackthrone are important additions. I didn't realize MSVC was broken with the base AT&T build. That can certainly be a good reason to upgrade. That's sort of why I wanted to get a handle on why you guys were doing it. To me, MSVC isn't worth losing multi-select but I'm sure it is to others.

I'd love to see a base OS thread where we can just discuss updates/changes like this without the clutter of general support for a ROM.

I agree, _ALEX_'s kitchen was awesome on the Kaiser. I've been putting together a collection for my own use, maybe we should all just get together and create a good set of packages for chefs.
 

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You don't need to lose multiselect, it's controlled by a registry key (which i discuss in my 20xxx registry settings thread in the raphael forum)

Also, the fix for MSVC in stock fuze rom is simply a blackstone wavedev.dll driver, don't need to upgrade the os to fix that, just extract rom, drop in driver replacement, cook :)
 

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You don't need to lose multiselect, it's controlled by a registry key (which i discuss in my 20xxx registry settings thread in the raphael forum)

Also, the fix for MSVC in stock fuze rom is simply a blackstone wavedev.dll driver, don't need to upgrade the os to fix that, just extract rom, drop in driver replacement, cook :)
I can't seem to get rid of multiselect using that registry key. It's cooked into my latest ROM, but multiselect is still there. :confused:

I thought we tried dropping the DLL file into the stock ROM, but it wouldn't take... since the OS is 19971.