Open in chrome. If it's under 88 you're being thottledI honestly think I'm an idiot because I don't notice lag on my phone at all. I wonder why. Maybe I'm just use to crappy phones? I'm coming from a 6T.
That being said, if my phone is throttling, I definitely do not want it too. I want the full potential for sure.
How can I test my phone for throttling?
Open in chrome. If it's under 88 you're being thottled
Yep def throttled
My question is how much of real life performance (waiting time) are we experiencing in the apps that are being throttled? Is it so significant that we even notice AND if so, do the battery savings (and less heat for some people) justify it? I understand that many "want the performance power they paid for" however if it is hardly a difference and in apps that don't NEED the full power of the CPU, then I agree with oneplus that there is no need to drain the battery on them. Everyone also wants to use speedometer and other tests that spit out a number but real life usage is what matters. No one even noticed until Aandtech ran benchmarks and dug in once seeing some number comparisons. They didn't notice from using the phone. Saying all this however, I DO believe this throttling should be part of a toggle like optimize battery performance that way everyone has a choice. However a law suit over this? Come on people, this is one reason so many things cost so much now. We are so quick to litigate to try and make a quick buck that some companies have to figure cost of retaining legal council into their total yearly expenses and that trickles down into the cost of their products.
Legit question. What did they do that was shady? Did they promise users that the device wouldn't throttle? About the only thing I can see would be if they posted benchmark results (like all manufacturers usually do) instead of individual app performance without stating *some apps will have reduced performance. I mean even when Aandtech noticed the throttling from what I remember they owned up to it saying it was for apps that don't need the full potential of the device and therefore it would save battery and reduce heat/wear on the components. Manufacturers make decisions all the time that they feel improve their product. Did they ever state it would run all apps 100% at all times? I just don't understand the big deal. Like I said, I still think there should be a toggle or bake this throttling into the already existing battery optimization toggle but even as a performance dork myself who has overclocked everything I've owned since 386 processors; I just don't see the big deal here. But, IF they did make direct false claims (not false claims that the users ASSUMED because throttling some apps wasn't disclosed) then I understand and I'd like someone to link the proof so I can read it and maybe take a new position on the matter.Well, these companies should then also be transparent about their business practices. If you have to put aside money for legal litigations then that should be red flag in itself.
It's not so much about making a quick buck, it's more of a lesson that should hopefully teach the company in question and other competitors that are trying to sneak past shady practices.
Shady practices = Altering performance behind the scenes. Withholding "performance optimisations" which affect the user experience. I have noticed the performance impact whilst using Chrome and apps that use Chrome to open links.Legit question. What did they do that was shady? Did they promise users that the device wouldn't throttle? About the only thing I can see would be if they posted benchmark results (like all manufacturers usually do) instead of individual app performance without stating *some apps will have reduced performance. I mean even when Aandtech noticed the throttling from what I remember they owned up to it saying it was for apps that don't need the full potential of the device and therefore it would save battery and reduce heat/wear on the components. Manufacturers make decisions all the time that they feel improve their product. Did they ever state it would run all apps 100% at all times? I just don't understand the big deal. Like I said, I still think there should be a toggle or bake this throttling into the already existing battery optimization toggle but even as a performance dork myself who has overclocked everything I've owned since 386 processors; I just don't see the big deal here. But, IF they did make direct false claims (not false claims that the users ASSUMED because throttling some apps wasn't disclosed) then I understand and I'd like someone to link the proof so I can read it and maybe take a new position on the matter.
Sorry, I disagree. Unless they actively hid it or lied about it they weren't being "shady" and to say so is making assumptions. They may have genuinely thought it was the right choice for battery & device life. It's their choice to make the device however they please.Shady practices = Altering performance behind the scenes. Withholding "performance optimisations" which affect the user experience. I have noticed the performance impact whilst using Chrome and apps that use Chrome to open links.
"Did they promise users that the device wouldn't throttle?" Are you really going to use this argument? If the device throttled due to external factors then that's not the fault of the OEM. But if the device throttles by design then it is.
I agree that there should be a toggle for it, but it shouldn't require the end users to complain for this to be the case
Some people need to understand that blind company loyalty only hurts them in the end.Sorry, I disagree. Unless they actively hid it or lied about it they weren't being "shady" and to say so is making assumptions. They may have genuinely thought it was the right choice for battery & device life. It's their choice to make the device however they please.
There is a reason I used the words "may have." I'm making no assumptions unlike yourslef and btw, I have zero "blind" brand loyalty. 1st time owning one of their devices. As I said before, I see nothing that proves they lied about what their device was doing. That would be shady and suit worthy. These consumers are just butt hurt that they made assumptions that the device would always run @ 100% performance on all apps. The OEM said they made it that way on purpose and will include a toggle in the future. Is that good enough? NOOOO. LET'S SUE 'EM AND MAKE $10 OFF A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT! dumb. Having worked in the mobile industry, I've seen just how illogical, entitled, and ANGRY people get over a stupid phone. Always amazes me.Some people need to understand that blind company loyalty only hurts them in the end.
Don't know what more "actively hid it or lied about it" you are referring to. There was no communication about the feature until there was outrage.
"It's their choice to make the device however they please"
It's our choice as customers to sue them if they step out of line.
"They may have genuinely thought it was the right choice for battery & device life."
"...to say so is making assumptions"
Need I say more
I have already answered why the law suit is justified, they can't just throttle performance and make the decision on behalf of the consumer, they are going to add the toggle and hopefully it teaches them a lesson to give the consumer the choice and not make decisions on their behalf. Android isn't iOS.There is a reason I used the words "may have." I'm making no assumptions unlike yourslef and btw, I have zero "blind" brand loyalty. 1st time owning one of their devices. As I said before, I see nothing that proves they lied about what their device was doing. That would be shady and suit worthy. These consumers are just butt hurt that they made assumptions that the device would always run @ 100% performance on all apps. The OEM said they made it that way on purpose and will include a toggle in the future. Is that good enough? NOOOO. LET'S SUE 'EM AND MAKE $10 OFF A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT! dumb. Having worked in the mobile industry, I've seen just how illogical, entitled, and ANGRY people get over a stupid phone. Always amazes me.
I get 74 on OP9Pro and 64 on my gaming laptop. How in god's name does that work then?Open in chrome. If it's under 88 you're being thottled
Wolkswagen cheating on emission tests wasn't an issue either, people didn't notice it was polluting way more than they said it was, so when they got caught they got fined hard but by your logic if people won't notice it's fine?This must be the biggest tech joke ever.
So users didn't know the phone was throttling as there were no issues in the apps it was throttled in and now after discovering it, its a problem??
This is the "If I paid for the whole speedometer I'm gonna use the whole speedometer" mentality that made humans lose a few years of advancement
How is the amount of apps installed on your phone relevant here? It's not going to affect CPU thread management or clocks, we're not talking about storage speed here lol.This is the most ironic answer I have ever seen, Like holly shhhh it my dude
Did you read what you wrote for a second.
I would recommend taking a little more Iodine as the lack of Iodine responsible for the lack of logic.
I have had the 7pro(7 months),7t(3 months),8(1 month),8pro(6 months) and the 9pro(almost 4 months)
I have a minimum of 70+ apps installed at all time, I have never faced any slowdowns or lag on the phone.
You want me to sue them for limiting the performance of the CPU on apps that wont take use of it? why not OC the CPU to run the calculator?
When ever the app needs performance its there when ever it doesn't need it, its not there.
That is basic logic, I work within the laptops industry, I have good understanding of how PowerLimits, TDPs and wattages should be monitored on a mobile device this happens all the time, a customer wants to whole wattage and performance and the engineer knows its impossible to keep the device cool enough to preform reasonably.
its whole rabbit hole that I cant even convey properly, you getting angry because they did this proves you dont understand the logic behind it.
Go do your thing and cry for something stupid that will divert their focus from something important to deal with this.
I switched from Samsung S21+ to OP9 pro and i see no difference in battery life, both phones have thermal issues because it's more Snap888 thing.Thank them? Are you mentally sane? Samsung has the same chip without this throttling and has better battery life lol. And why would I wait for their slow ass developers to create the toggle when I have been running without TPD/OPPerf for weeks now and it's completely fine? This phone gets hot even with that throttling enabled. This phone has deficient thermal design and battery life and all this software does is try to somewhat hide it lmao.