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pknath19

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Fine you are right. There is a problem with mine. It's blue. I wonder if I would have cared as much if I didn't read this. Dammit I lose again.
 

draiken78

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Fine you are right. There is a problem with mine. It's blue. I wonder if I would have cared as much if I didn't read this. Dammit I lose again.
I tried not to care and pressed on with using it a few days before contacting Google, but it was a deal breaker when I learned that using the browser strains my eyes due to the blue tint. It is a smart phone after all, so a core function should be being able to use the browser to surf the internet without it hurting my eyes. It's not bad at a perfectly straight angle, unfortunately the way I hold my phone when I use it isn't in the 'perfect angle' range on my device. 'You're holding it wrong' is not the right answer for a $850 device.
 

zetsumeikuro

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Have you considered that it is possible that there is device-to-device variability? I mean several posters have put up side-by-side images of 2 different P2XL's that clearly showed one was very blue and the other wasn't. Lucky you that you got a good one but you should assume that just because your's is good that they all are.
Sure, but this is the same of every manufacturer even Samsung. Probably because of the price tag that people are waving their pitchforks extra hard this time around.
 

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my device is great, but i will not say there may be defects with batches, or a flaw due to poor QC. its not uncommon for bad news to spread faster and virulent than good news. what most of us that are tired of the bad news, we are just damn tired of some of the nitpicky AR (you figure out what AR means) posts and comments about, "oh no, someone said if i dont look at the phone at 0 pitch, it will get a little blueish" (read one of my other rant posts and you will see many different device screens have this tint. ) basically we are seeing many people just hitching their hooks on someone when their device is working great beyond that point. yes, i will say, some screens are more bluetainted than others, but im also wondering about factors before those pictures were taken, was brightness set at exactly the same for both devices. i was able to get BOTH varied blue levels based on changing my brightness level. im hoping the "proof" pictures were done with ANY HDR or colour correction turned off. im not doubting there may be flaws, but im seeing a bunch of people going, "me too", when they dont understand what/why they are seeing something.
ATM, any issues im having are extremely common for every new OS release. i have never had a "cutting edge" released device without the bugs, software incompatibilities
i do take some of these early day comments and assumptions with a grain of salt. anyone remember the "LED light" debate on the N9, and even with a pictures of the light on when the device had 0 battery and plugged in, AND a damn X-RAY of the device, some insisted there was not an LED at the bottom, and not at the top left where plastic obviously was. oh the N9, you are the reason im done with HTC. you had potential and are still used in the crapper room (thats about all you are good for now)
 

draiken78

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my device is great, but i will not say there may be defects with batches, or a flaw due to poor QC. its not uncommon for bad news to spread faster and virulent than good news. what most of us that are tired of the bad news, we are just damn tired of some of the nitpicky AR (you figure out what AR means) posts and comments about, "oh no, someone said if i dont look at the phone at 0 pitch, it will get a little blueish" (read one of my other rant posts and you will see many different device screens have this tint. ) basically we are seeing many people just hitching their hooks on someone when their device is working great beyond that point. yes, i will say, some screens are more bluetainted than others, but im also wondering about factors before those pictures were taken, was brightness set at exactly the same for both devices. i was able to get BOTH varied blue levels based on changing my brightness level. im hoping the "proof" pictures were done with ANY HDR or colour correction turned off. im not doubting there may be flaws, but im seeing a bunch of people going, "me too", when they dont understand what/why they are seeing something.
ATM, any issues im having are extremely common for every new OS release. i have never had a "cutting edge" released device without the bugs, software incompatibilities
i do take some of these early day comments and assumptions with a grain of salt. anyone remember the "LED light" debate on the N9, and even with a pictures of the light on when the device had 0 battery and plugged in, AND a damn X-RAY of the device, some insisted there was not an LED at the bottom, and not at the top left where plastic obviously was. oh the N9, you are the reason im done with HTC. you had potential and are still used in the crapper room (thats about all you are good for now)
I remember the N9. I was super excited for HTC to finally made another nexus device. I had that hunk of garbage for 2 full years and I'm amazed it ran that long.
 

Jonathan-H

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Luckily for google, most buyers won't pay attention to online reviews and forums, and they shouldn't.

The XL 2 I used I could find no tint whatsoever.

As for the complaints about the price, every single phone in the wild, barring iphone ( I hate saying this but their displays are perfect ) have colour shift off angle. Every single one.
They either shift colour to red or blue or purple or they dim as you tilt. The Samsung have red tint and pink tint issues, LG have colour bleed and washout at the top or bottom of the display, HTC have light bleed. Pixels have some red tinting due to amoled.
Does everyone throw a fit when samsung have issues? nope.
 

ProAm500

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Luckily for google, most buyers won't pay attention to online reviews and forums, and they shouldn't.

The XL 2 I used I could find no tint whatsoever.

As for the complaints about the price, every single phone in the wild, barring iphone ( I hate saying this but their displays are perfect ) have colour shift off angle. Every single one.
They either shift colour to red or blue or purple or they dim as you tilt. The Samsung have red tint and pink tint issues, LG have colour bleed and washout at the top or bottom of the display, HTC have light bleed. Pixels have some red tinting due to amoled.
Does everyone throw a fit when samsung have issues? nope.
Do they have a color shift that starts at 5 degrees like mine? Is it as dramatic a shift? How come my 2015 nexus 6p doesn't have nearly as dramatic a shift.? And most buyers buying the pixel are Android enthusiasts, despite Google's effort to make the pixel more appealing to the mainstream.
 

Lawlrus

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Do they have a color shift that starts at 5 degrees like mine? Is it as dramatic a shift? How come my 2015 nexus 6p doesn't have nearly as dramatic a shift.? And most buyers buying the pixel are Android enthusiasts, despite Google's effort to make the pixel more appealing to the mainstream.
How are you going to compare​ two different screen types?
 

Pecata

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I am on my second Pixel 2 XL, waiting on a third. I also like the device but this is the first time I am having so many issues with a google phone...I have owned every google smart phone since Galaxy Nexus.

My first Pixel 2 XL had a defective pixel that wouldn't turn off to display blacks...it will just stay red. This second one I have, has a pink hue in the middle of the screen and it randomly reboots itself when it feels like it. I contacted Google again, sent them a picture of the screen and told them about the reboots-they are sending me a new one.

I am extremely disappointed so far...but I really love the phone-the camera, the software the design, the dual speakers...but I am legitimately worried that this is a flawed device and LG did a crappy job and Google didn't bother QC at all. Fingers crossed that the one that is supposed to arrive on Monday won't have problems.
 

ProAm500

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How are you going to compare​ two different screen types?
Is the 6p not oled? If you're talking amoled vs. Poled or whatever, the person I replied to did exactly that. The point is that to my eye, the screen on my near 3 year old phone is better than my pixel 2 xl and only has some color shift at an extreme angle. Unless I'm looking at the pixel 2 xl dead on, any angle past zero has a blue tint. And forget looking at it on the table or my desktop, or while I'm cooking etc. Those are just rehashed points, I get it. But whether it is polarization, a bad application of the polarization layer , a defective device, etc. Its just not a very impressive screen by any means.
 
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Lawlrus

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Is the 6p not oled? If you're talking amoled vs. Poled or whatever, the person I replied to did exactly that. The point is that to my eye, the screen on my near 3 year old phone is better than my pixel 2 xl. Whether is polarization, a bad application, a defective device, etc.
Yes that's what I'm talking about. It's plastic not glass, and the 6p like you said doesn't have a polorization layer like the xl2 does. So you can't compare it to something it's not, that's just ridiculous. Just because someone else did it too, doesn't mean it works.

And that's your opinion. Everyone keeps calling blue shift an issue, but not everyone sees it that way.

White actually looks white on this screen, you look at the 6p and it's like a hazy yellow. So if you think that looks better without using kcal than the xl2 does, I'd go get your eyes checked
 

ProAm500

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Yes that's what I'm talking about. It's plastic not glass, and the 6p like you said doesn't have a polorization layer like the xl2 does. So you can't compare it to something it's not, that's just ridiculous. Just because someone else did it too, doesn't mean it works.

And that's your opinion. Everyone keeps calling blue shift an issue, but not everyone sees it that way.

White actually looks white on this screen, you look at the 6p and it's like a hazy yellow. So if you think that looks better without using kcal than the xl2 does, I'd go get your eyes checked
Yes, the 6p is not as good at displaying whites, but what's the point when 9 out of 10 times I'm viewing white on the p2xl , half the screen looks blue?
 

ProAm500

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I use a black sub theme, I don't see a blue screen.
I'm guessing that's a black substratum theme? Legitimate question, and this isn't just directed at you, but I've seen people post I don't use a white theme or white wallpaper etc so it's not an issue. Aren't like 50 percent of webpages people view white?
 

Lawlrus

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I'm guessing that's a black substratum theme? Legitimate question, and this isn't just directed at you, but I've seen people post I don't use a white theme or white wallpaper etc so it's not an issue. Aren't like 50 percent of webpages people view white?
Depends on the browser, a large amount of them have options for night mode that makes the majority of pages dark.

I've been trying out the Samsung browser, that has the option.

Fwiw I'm not using a black theme for that reason I've always used black themes for oled because of how blacks look on oled, I looked at at my screen before I applied one, and I do see how the white turns blueish at an angle, still not as much of an issue to me as it apparently is to others.

The phone's fast and the battery life is nothing like it was on my 6p, the amount of people that view their device on an angle is astounding to me, I wasn't aware so many people don't look at their device strait on, but whatever works for people I guess.
 

ProAm500

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Depends on the browser, a large amount of them have options for night mode that makes the majority of pages dark.

I've been trying out the Samsung browser, that has the option.

Fwiw I'm not using a black theme for that reason I've always used black themes for oled because of how blacks look on oled, I looked at at my screen before I applied one, and I do see how the white turns blueish at an angle, still not as much of an issue to me as it apparently is to others.

The phone's fast and the battery life is nothing like it was on my 6p, the amount of people that view their device on an angle is astounding to me, I wasn't aware so many people don't look at their device strait on, but whatever works for people I guess.
Fair enough. Maybe you hit "the lottery" with your panel as some have pointed out. I personally shouldn't have to make comprises like using a certain browser, night modes, hiding the nav bar, etc to hide some of the widely reported issues with the display. And as aside, I've mentioned this in other forums, I was surprised myself at how often I view my phone at some type of angle during a given day, especially at work or doing things around the house.