Question CPH2173 firmware updates

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maxellxl

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What bizarre comments above. Have you guys just no clue about the amount of cybercrime that goes on these days. Clearly not.
Clearly you have no idea. Most of cybercrimes are phishing now...so you give the data and consent needed to commit the crime. The rest are related to software installed on your PC (99% windows related) like rootkits, viruses, etc.

And your only weapon against it, is your brain...not a security patch - so be careful what you click or what you install on your phone. If someone does not have brain or particular.way of thinking...then no security patch will help.

Do you even know what these security patches fix exactly?

Just to be clear...no offense...most people are complaining about not getting an update with security patch - I prefer to get an update with annoying bug fix or new feature.

The chance that youll get "attacked" on your phone is close to zero....unless you click everything on a webpage or install everything without making sure it doesnt "harm" your phone or pc
 
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Clearly you have no idea. Most of cybercrimes are phishing now...so you give the data and consent needed to commit the crime. The rest are related to software installed on your PC (99% windows related) like rootkits, viruses, etc.

And your only weapon against it, is your brain...not a security patch - so be careful what you click or what you install on your phone. If someone does not have brain or particular.way of thinking...then no security patch will help.

Do you even know what these security patches fix exactly?

Just to be clear...no offense...most people are complaining about not getting an update with security patch - I prefer to get an update with annoying bug fix or new feature.

The chance that youll get "attacked" on your phone is close to zero....unless you click everything on a webpage or install everything without making sure it doesnt "harm" your phone or pc
The above is really quite an idiotic post.

Where exactly did I say I would like to be careless with my security? I am *hyper* security conscious, for reasons I need not go into. You should be too!

That is why I would like to ensure that known Android insecurities are patched, if such patches are available. That you are happy for insecurities to exist, and to run without the patches, without a care in the world? Well that says a lot.
 
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maxellxl

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The above is really quite an idiotic post.

Where exactly did I say I would like to be careless with my security? I am *hyper* security conscious, for reasons I need not go into. You should be too!

That is why I would like to ensure that known Android insecurities are patched, if such patches are available. That you are happy for insecurities to exist, and to run without the patches, without a care in the world? Well that says a lot.
Where exactly did I say specifically you would like to be careless with your security? Read my previous post again - I did not say that and I did not mean to offend you. If you are selfaware user thats good, this is unfortunately not common among others.

Im just saying that I cannot understand why people are soooo demanding about these security updates since they dont even know what google is fixing with them...if there is a high risk we would have already seen articles/news how google ****ed up with the security.

So basically a month or two delay with getting a security update is no harm for you...believe me. If something bad happen specifically with your phone due to lack of latest security patch - its like winning a lottery ticket.

As a software engineer I can assure you that your banking apps/financial portals are more insecure than google.

Moreover in general software build by developers contains many external libraries developed by many other developers...basically at each level/component you can have security issue or security bug raised and this bug can wait months to be fixed by the dev teams - you know why? Cause the chance of using this security vulnerability is close to 0 or they just dont have time to fix it.

Of course every software (especially in banking sector) has to go through security scanning, only the HIGH risk elements have to be fixed. Medium and Minor ones can be fixed later with no rush.
 

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I got mine with EE. It's not locked and there's no branding. Pretty sure I just got a stock global unit.
May I ask when please? I also have an unbranded, unlocked phone which I bought in the UK from EE and is on the EE network. But as of 12:17 on 08/06/21 still no update and STILL on March patches.

FWIW my wife's phone got the June patches yesterday.

I am in complete disagreement with the posts above claiming that this is not important (but saw no point in getting into further argument about it).
 

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May I ask when please? I also have an unbranded, unlocked phone which I bought in the UK from EE and is on the EE network. But as of 12:17 on 08/06/21 still no update and STILL on March patches.

FWIW my wife's phone got the June patches yesterday.

I am in complete disagreement with the posts above claiming that this is not important (but saw no point in getting into further argument about it).

There would be no arguments, only opinions
 

Chippy_boy

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Not to be pedantic, but..... In that example, that statement can be proven to be false so cannot be taken as an opinion.

Not to be pedantic, but you were being pedantic, so "not to be pendantic" is inappropriate wording.

Anyway, it is demonstrably a pretty silly "opinion" that 11 unpatched security vulnerabilities since March, described by Google as *critical* (not to mention the 100+ *High* severity ones) are unimportant. If they were unimportant, they would not be flagged as *critical*.
 

maxellxl

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Not to be pedantic, but you were being pedantic, so "not to be pendantic" is inappropriate wording.

Anyway, it is demonstrably a pretty silly "opinion" that 11 unpatched security vulnerabilities since March, described by Google as *critical* (not to mention the 100+ *High* severity ones) are unimportant. If they were unimportant, they would not be flagged as *critical*.
Buy Google Pixel - problem solved
 

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Not to be pedantic, but you were being pedantic, so "not to be pendantic" is inappropriate wording.

Anyway, it is demonstrably a pretty silly "opinion" that 11 unpatched security vulnerabilities since March, described by Google as *critical* (not to mention the 100+ *High* severity ones) are unimportant. If they were unimportant, they would not be flagged as *critical*.
I am with you on the update buddy. Flagship phones should be updated regularly, that is partly why we pay the big bucks.

Just a quick update, I just received the 524MB update after giving up and not checking it for a couple of days. I was on CPH2173CPW_11_A. 15.
 

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    The above is really quite an idiotic post.

    Where exactly did I say I would like to be careless with my security? I am *hyper* security conscious, for reasons I need not go into. You should be too!

    That is why I would like to ensure that known Android insecurities are patched, if such patches are available. That you are happy for insecurities to exist, and to run without the patches, without a care in the world? Well that says a lot.
    Where exactly did I say specifically you would like to be careless with your security? Read my previous post again - I did not say that and I did not mean to offend you. If you are selfaware user thats good, this is unfortunately not common among others.

    Im just saying that I cannot understand why people are soooo demanding about these security updates since they dont even know what google is fixing with them...if there is a high risk we would have already seen articles/news how google ****ed up with the security.

    So basically a month or two delay with getting a security update is no harm for you...believe me. If something bad happen specifically with your phone due to lack of latest security patch - its like winning a lottery ticket.

    As a software engineer I can assure you that your banking apps/financial portals are more insecure than google.

    Moreover in general software build by developers contains many external libraries developed by many other developers...basically at each level/component you can have security issue or security bug raised and this bug can wait months to be fixed by the dev teams - you know why? Cause the chance of using this security vulnerability is close to 0 or they just dont have time to fix it.

    Of course every software (especially in banking sector) has to go through security scanning, only the HIGH risk elements have to be fixed. Medium and Minor ones can be fixed later with no rush.
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    If software updates are part of the reason you buy a phone then you wouldn't of got an Oppo
    Buddy, lack of support is why I previously stayed away from OPPO. Recently they promised monthly security updates:


    And also up to Android 13:


    It was not the only reason for me. I got it for £600, much cheaper than the OnePlus 9.

    In any case I am not too concerned as I did not pay the £1,000+ launch price and the phone is very snappy.
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    I agree. And none of the argument would have occurred had a couple of posters not waded in with comments suggesting lack of firmware updates did not matter. The thread is supposed to be about firmware updates, not some daft debate about whether they are important or not.
    If you did not start moaning about lack of updates with security patches this exchange of opinions wouldnt have started
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    A17 version with May security patch is available so patience.

    Let me ask u a question...why these security patches are SO important to you? You know that the chance that someone or something will use some android bugs to get to your bank account are close to ZERO...

    Well said, I've never understood why people are so desperate for an update that they won't even notice a difference with.

    Oppo could release an update with 0 changes and they'd want it
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    I'm also in the UK, on an unbranded phone bought directly from Oppo (I've got CPW in the firmware code as well)

    Still on the March security update as shown in the first screenshot