Dead Titan?

sf3000

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When flash was full, HTC titan began freezing at random places, I deleted some pictures/videos/apps, looks okay until during charging it suddenly reboots and now it is stuck at bootloader HTC screen, I did hard reset, same thing, factory reset, one of 3 tries of factory reset, I can get to windows however only basic phone call works, everything else crashes. The other 2 out of 3 hard reset attempts, either stuck at installing apps (during the initial setup phase), or stuck at HTC logo.

Finally out of options, I tried to use RUU (ROMUpdateUtility.exe) with the downloaded original US Cingular ROM (Original named IMG_Eternity_Cingular_US_1.10.502.04_Radio_16.23.02.26_A_16.27.00.23_Signed_ETERNITY_RELEASE.nbh renamed to ETERIMG.nbh in order to flash), and got same crash/freeze as above. By the way I did verify the SPL bootloader matched the ROM.

Contacted HTC support, they say I have to send it for repair if I want to go that route, anyone know how much they charge? Mine is out of warranty. Only 1.5 years!

Right now it is stuck at installing apps again, and it seems getting harder and harder to get past that stage in order to have basic phone call functionality.
 

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When flash was full, HTC titan began freezing at random places, I deleted some pictures/videos/apps, looks okay until during charging it suddenly reboots and now it is stuck at bootloader HTC screen, I did hard reset, same thing, factory reset, one of 3 tries of factory reset, I can get to windows however only basic phone call works, everything else crashes. The other 2 out of 3 hard reset attempts, either stuck at installing apps (during the initial setup phase), or stuck at HTC logo.

Finally out of options, I tried to use RUU (ROMUpdateUtility.exe) with the downloaded original US Cingular ROM (Original named IMG_Eternity_Cingular_US_1.10.502.04_Radio_16.23.02.26_A_16.27.00.23_Signed_ETERNITY_RELEASE.nbh renamed to ETERIMG.nbh in order to flash), and got same crash/freeze as above. By the way I did verify the SPL bootloader matched the ROM.

Contacted HTC support, they say I have to send it for repair if I want to go that route, anyone know how much they charge? Mine is out of warranty. Only 1.5 years!

Right now it is stuck at installing apps again, and it seems getting harder and harder to get past that stage in order to have basic phone call functionality.
Stop please! You need to tell us what exactly do you mean when your flash is full...your internal memory? It appears by your 2nd paragraph you're attempting to HSPL your device. If you're stuck at the HTC Logo it normally means you're using the wrong radio firmware for the rom; my device for example is HSPL...I will never forget the effort I put into that feat, but the radio had to be changed to version 17 not 16 though you will find roms that will operate on 16, so let's start with what exactly are you trying to do...thanks!
 

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Stop please! You need to tell us what exactly do you mean when your flash is full...your internal memory? It appears by your 2nd paragraph you're attempting to HSPL your device. If you're stuck at the HTC Logo it normally means you're using the wrong radio firmware for the rom; my device for example is HSPL...I will never forget the effort I put into that feat, but the radio had to be changed to version 17 not 16 though you will find roms that will operate on 16, so let's start with what exactly are you trying to do...thanks!
The Titan was untouched, unmodded, fully functional. Then over time ts internal flash drive (16GB) became totally full.
Deleted some pictures/videos from within Zune software, uninstalled some apps and I get back 1GB or 2GB.
Recharged again then during this recharging period, it rebooted, ever since then, it became the state as I described in original post.
Sometimes stuck at HTC logo, sometimes after another factory reset (accessed from vol up + vol down + power HSPL menu),

The radio was 16, and the RUU program indicated it installed the 389(?)MB rom successfully, I made sure I downloaded the original cingular rom that had same radio 16 number.

Just trying to get Titan alive again, not even attempting custom firmware. From what I read on the forum, I will need USB-Y cable + goldcard
to install custom stuff. However I believe the RUU program I used allows flashing of stock ROM.
 

berrywr

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The Titan was untouched, unmodded, fully functional. Then over time ts internal flash drive (16GB) became totally full.
Deleted some pictures/videos from within Zune software, uninstalled some apps and I get back 1GB or 2GB.
Recharged again then during this recharging period, it rebooted, ever since then, it became the state as I described in original post.
Sometimes stuck at HTC logo, sometimes after another factory reset (accessed from vol up + vol down + power HSPL menu),

The radio was 16, and the RUU program indicated it installed the 389(?)MB rom successfully, I made sure I downloaded the original cingular rom that had same radio 16 number.

Just trying to get Titan alive again, not even attempting custom firmware. From what I read on the forum, I will need USB-Y cable + goldcard
to install custom stuff. However I believe the RUU program I used allows flashing of stock ROM.
I was going to recommend Goldcard and it works perfect! You're stock so you need a stock ROM. Double check your model #, mine for example are PI39100s. I HSPL'd my Titans via Goldcard. You might want to attempt the HSPL process if you're nuts enough to try it. But be aware you will need the correct debranding ROM to do so. But for your purposes, you need "stock". I was really surprised how easy the Goldcard method is...it picks it up right out the blocks and you follow the prompts.
 
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sf3000

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I was going to recommend Goldcard and it works perfect! You're stock so you need a stock ROM. Double check your model #, mine for example are PI39100s. I HSPL'd my Titans via Goldcard. You might want to attempt the HSPL process if you're nuts enough to try it. But be aware you will need the correct debranding ROM to do so. But for your purposes, you need "stock". I was really surprised how easy the Goldcard method is...it picks it up right out the blocks and you follow the prompts.
The RUU.exe works with stock firmware reflashing already, so when I tried it it was stuck at 4% complete for a minute, then 67% for 30 sec, then 87% for 30 sec, then finally complete 100% successfully, then after reboot, it enters the setup stage and stuck at installing apps again even after 10 minutes. There's something wrong with the phone, so weird, maybe a hammer will do the trick.
 

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this is where i got stock rom (googled htc rom)
http://www.persianhtc.net/index.php?dir=Titan(Eternity)(Bunyip)(Ultimate)/rom/original/nbh/

Maybe I will try another stock rom, IMG_Eternity_Cingular_2.01.502.04_Radio_16.23.03.17_16.27.00.23U_OS_7.10.7740.166.nbh and see what happens.
Bear with me for a moment...I own a HD2 which is a joy to flash Android and Windows Phone or the both of them, WP on NAND and Android on SD. I've had devices dating back to Windows Mobile 6.1 and flashing my Titans is identical to flashing all the rest of them once you're developer/interop unlocked to do so. As the HD2s age, their internal ROM become corrupted so the gurus here came up with NativeSD, now I realize were talking about two different animals here but when you flash a Windows Mobile/Phone operating system you reformat and erase whatever it is to be installed on; it doesn't matter if its micro sd memory cards or internal rom. I don't know if there is an equivalent Task 29 (wipes the memory) for the Titan's internal rom or is it even necessary; it's standard procedure on the HD2 via the HD2 Toolkit. I want you to do me a favor and send me what is on your bootloader screen, specifically the SPL, I'm thinking it's 2.05 but there are some others running around too. It is clear you can flash, but when I'm hung on the HTC logo it's the radio that is wrong, so please double check that the radio is correct. I'm not aware there are any radio 17s out there on stock but I am by no means an expert at all of this. Know this, there is the real possibility that you have a corrupted internal memory and where it is corrupted or fragmented is a big deal. I'm asking myself can the memory be erased before flashing and I don't have that answer. The roms you're using suggest you're not using a Windows Phone 7.8 stock Rom, but neither do I know if there is a stock flashable 7.8 Rom; I have the debrand 7.0s but none of the Mango 7.5s; I only have the flashable custom 7.8s but will look later this evening for one. I realize I may have asked you this before but please let me know what your model number, SPL, radio, and verify one more time if upon completion of the rom install does the phone reboot automatically after initial setup...the language, time, date, you hit next and start installing apps...is it the first install apps or afterwards where you hit next before you get to the start menu for the very first time. If at all possible do you remember inside your settings, under "about" how much memory you had, and how much was available. Thanks!
 
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this is where i got stock rom (googled htc rom)
http://www.persianhtc.net/index.php?dir=Titan(Eternity)(Bunyip)(Ultimate)/rom/original/nbh/

Maybe I will try another stock rom, IMG_Eternity_Cingular_2.01.502.04_Radio_16.23.03.17_16.27.00.23U_OS_7.10.7740.166.nbh and see what happens.
_________________________________
|
| PI3910
| SPL-2.1.160015.3(133679)
| eMMC SMS 15028MB, F:pA32
| TOUCH A1(F:81,ID:1,V11,B:F8)
|
| Radio-16.23.03.17
|
| Serial
| APPSBL
|
| IMG CRC
| FACTORY RESET
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This is what it looks now after succesfully flashing the IMG_Eternity_Cingular_2.01.502.04_Radio_16.23.03.1 7_16.27.00.23U_OS_7.10.7740.166.nbh

That means it upgraded successfully to a more updated Cingular stock rom, if I can use RUU to flash stock rom again
and again, it means writing internal flash is okay(?), but reading internal flash becomes problematic. I noticed
recently I can't even get to setup screen.

Bear with me for a moment...I own a HD2 which is a joy to flash Android and Windows Phone or the both of them, WP on NAND and Android on SD. I've had devices dating back to Windows Mobile 6.1 and flashing my Titans is identical to flashing all the rest of them once you're developer/interop unlocked to do so. As the HD2s age, their internal ROM become corrupted so the gurus here came up with NativeSD, now I realize were talking about two different animals here but when you flash a Windows Mobile/Phone operating system you reformat and erase whatever it is to be installed on; it doesn't matter if its micro sd memory cards or internal rom. I don't know if there is an equivalent Task 29 (wipes the memory) for the Titan's internal rom or is it even necessary; it's standard procedure on the HD2 via the HD2 Toolkit. I want you to do me a favor and send me what is on your bootloader screen, specifically the SPL, I'm thinking it's 2.05 but there are some others running around too. It is clear you can flash, but when I'm hung on the HTC logo it's the radio that is wrong, so please double check that the radio is correct. I'm not aware there are any radio 17s out there on stock but I am by no means an expert at all of this. Know this, there is the real possibility that you have a corrupted internal memory and where it is corrupted or fragmented is a big deal. I'm asking myself can the memory be erased before flashing and I don't have that answer. The roms you're using suggest you're not using a Windows Phone 7.8 stock Rom, but neither do I know if there is a stock flashable 7.8 Rom; I have the debrand 7.0s but none of the Mango 7.5s; I only have the flashable custom 7.8s but will look later this evening for one. I realize I may have asked you this before but please let me know what your model number, SPL, radio, and verify one more time if upon completion of the rom install does the phone reboot automatically after initial setup...the language, time, date, you hit next and start installing apps...is it the first install apps or afterwards where you hit next before you get to the start menu for the very first time. If at all possible do you remember inside your settings, under "about" how much memory you had, and how much was available. Thanks!
I did double/triple check radio is 16 for my very original stock rom and the roms I downloaded all have radio 16 as part of filename.

Model: PI39100
SPL: Original: 1.10, now is 2.1

Right now can't even get to setup screen now, it used to be 1 out 3 hard resets I can reach that stage, now it always reboots
after it failed to get past Windows logo stage (which happens about 8~20sec after HTC logo and AT&T logo stage)
 

berrywr

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Opelika, AL
_________________________________
|
| PI3910
| SPL-2.1.160015.3(133679)
| eMMC SMS 15028MB, F:pA32
| TOUCH A1(F:81,ID:1,V11,B:F8)
|
| Radio-16.23.03.17
|
| Serial
| APPSBL
|
| IMG CRC
| FACTORY RESET
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This is what it looks now after succesfully flashing the IMG_Eternity_Cingular_2.01.502.04_Radio_16.23.03.1 7_16.27.00.23U_OS_7.10.7740.166.nbh

That means it upgraded successfully to a more updated Cingular stock rom, if I can use RUU to flash stock rom again
and again, it means writing internal flash is okay(?), but reading internal flash becomes problematic. I noticed
recently I can't even get to setup screen.



I did double/triple check radio is 16 for my very original stock rom and the roms I downloaded all have radio 16 as part of filename.

Model: PI39100
SPL: Original: 1.10, now is 2.1

Right now can't even get to setup screen now, it used to be 1 out 3 hard resets I can reach that stage, now it always reboots
after it failed to get past Windows logo stage (which happens about 8~20sec after HTC logo and AT&T logo stage)
My apologies that I haven't replied sooner; I'm a full time college student thus I'm a bit busy. If your SPL is 2.1 then you have not successfully installed the Cingular 1.10 ROM otherwise your SPL would read 1.10 which this ROM and the European 1.09 ROM are used to downgrade the SPL on the Titan for HSPL and custom ROM flashing...which you've made me aware that is not what you're attempting to do but it is one of the steps towards doing just that. I'm going to attach my notes on my HSPL of my device which is extensive. There might be something in it that might help you. But for example my bootloader reads: PI39100...HSPL2.5.160015.3(137079)...eMMC SND 15188MB...CotullaH(F:81, ID:1,V11, B:f8)...double space...Radio-17.5006.08.27. I realize you're not trying to HSPL but if you are able to get your SPL to read 1.10, I think you should try it, the worse that can happen to you is the SPL will read SPL2.5.160015.3 not HSPL2.5.160015.3. I still recommend the Goldcard Method. My notes will be attached as a Word file.
 
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My apologies that I haven't replied sooner; I'm a full time college student thus I'm a bit busy. If your SPL is 2.1 then you have not successfully installed the Cingular 1.10 ROM otherwise your SPL would read 1.10 which this ROM and the European 1.09 ROM are used to downgrade the SPL on the Titan for HSPL and custom ROM flashing...which you've made me aware that is not what you're attempting to do but it is one of the steps towards doing just that. I'm going to attach my notes on my HSPL of my device which is extensive. There might be something in it that might help you. But for example my bootloader reads: PI39100...HSPL2.5.160015.3(137079)...eMMC SND 15188MB...CotullaH(F:81, ID:1,V11, B:f8)...double space...Radio-17.5006.08.27. I realize you're not trying to HSPL but if you are able to get your SPL to read 1.10, I think you should try it, the worse that can happen to you is the SPL will read SPL2.5.160015.3 not HSPL2.5.160015.3. I still recommend the Goldcard Method. My notes will be attached as a Word file.
Mine was SPL 1.1 before any flashing, now it is 2.1 because I flashed a SPL 2.1 Stock ROM.
Let me try to flash it back to SPL 1.1 again. I am not planning to use custom ROM so I don't think I need a gold card for now.
 

sf3000

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Used same RUU to flash back to HSPL 1.0 from 2.1, anyway it still looks dead to me. It's a loss.

Anyway thanks everyone for the help.

The weird thing is I can flash back and forth between 1.0 and 2.1, meaning internal flash drive has no issue during writing.
 
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