Debranding guidance needed from the very expert Guru

alidsd

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Hi Gurus,
Since the last two weeks , I have tried almost all the options to debrand the Htc Desire Orange UK version, but not success, Below was my cell stock information when I purchased it.

Htc Desire Black Edition (PVT1) not brown one
Froyo 2.2
Hboot = 0.93.0001
Radio = 5.10
CID=ORANG001

I wanted to debrand it to generic from the Orange then I rooted it with UnRevoked and S-Off through AlphaRev and executed the file "RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe" from shipped Roms.

After that I got the Radio V2 Fail, When I restarted the cell, there was no display, even the charging light was off.
I contacted a person that has RiffBox, he flashed it and changed the CID from ORANG001 to HTC__001.

My cell new configuration is as below :

Hboot=0.930001
Radio=4.06
CID=HTC__001

Right now I have only fastboot and hboot access with no ROM in cell phone .

After that I tried almost all the Roms from the shipped-roms's bravo secton, they gives 2 types of error upon executing :
1. partition update failed (error on Radio v2 pu fail)
2. signature verification failed.

I want to debrand my cell to generic one , so that I can get rid of Orange stuff.

I am stuck at that point, needed the expert guidance to pass through this situation.

Thanks
 

alidsd

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Thanks 'welshbloke70' for reply.

Well, After having flashed with RiffBox my cell is no longer rooted or s-off.
Currently I have just fastboot and only hboot menu access. RECOVERY is not operational now.

When I turned on the cell, it directly comes to fastboot menu due to no
ROM in cell after flashing. So in this case I can only install from RUU or PB99IMG.zip, the xda link you gave have all the the ROMS but for rooted cell phones.

As now I have changed CID (HTC__001) which is the generic one, so I dont get any CID error upon installing generic RUU.

Any other suggestion would be appreciated.

Thanks,
:rolleyes:
Given that you are s-off and rooted why would you not just install one of the stock rooted ROMs from the second post in this thread?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

I personally would not have changed the CID, can you install your stock RUU anymore?
 

UsManyDead

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Do you have a Gold Card??? Cause your problem sounds pretty bad. Since you aren't rooted and you don't have a recovery, it is pretty obvious that you can't install a custom ROM.

I guess you tried also the latest version of RUU which is 2.29.405.5 if you are from EUROPE.

From what I've read you can flash an branded RUU or another RUU on a branded phone only if you have a Gold Card. Now I don't know if this applies to you since you are no longer branded, but you can give it a shot if you haven't tried yet.

I think there is a tutorial on how to make a Gold Card even if you can't access the phone or see the screen. I'll look for it and post it here.

Hope this helps you.
 

alidsd

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Do you have a Gold Card??? Cause your problem sounds pretty bad. Since you aren't rooted and you don't have a recovery, it is pretty obvious that you can't install a custom ROM.

I guess you tried also the latest version of RUU which is 2.29.405.5 if you are from EUROPE.

From what I've read you can flash an branded RUU or another RUU on a branded phone only if you have a Gold Card. Now I don't know if this applies to you since you are no longer branded, but you can give it a shot if you haven't tried yet.

I think there is a tutorial on how to make a Gold Card even if you can't access the phone or see the screen. I'll look for it and post it here.

Hope this helps you.
Thanks 'UsManyDead' for taking interest in my case. The answers are as below :
1. Yes, I have gold card, for now its useless. Because as I know we need the gold card only if we are going to install a rom that is different from the current cell CID.
In my case I have already changed my CID from ORANG001 to HTC__001 and any generic RUU supports HTC__001 so there is no need of gold card in my case.

2. Any custom rom can not be installed due to fact that cell is no more rooted.
Only PB***.zip or Ruu can solve the problem. I have tried almost all the roms and ruu from shipped-roms. but they give 2 types of errors as I mentioned in my first post. I have also tried 2.29.405.5 many times but no success.

I know the options are becoming very few , but I hope that I will pass through this failure from you and xda community users.

Any other advice will be welcomed.

Thanks
 

UsManyDead

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Hello once again. I just read a little more about your problem, which is very rare but found some good threads you should read and try.

REMEMBER TO READ THEM IN FULL ( FROM FIRST PAGE TILL THE LAST ONE ) and maybe post your problem there, might be easier to get help.

First thread: ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880268 ( even if it is for bricked SLCD, something in there might actually help, for example how to get the PB99IMG.zip from a RUU file)

Second thread (a continuation of the first): ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831734

Third thread (where I actually found your exact problem): ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000385 . Someone explains some kind of "voodoo" to be done to repair the error you get, and there are positive results, and I think you can use the first 2 thread to get the PB99IMG.zip.

Give it a try and remember to read them in full to understand. Hope this helps. Good luck.


Image of what you get : ht tp://www.imageupload.org/?d=4D9499D01
 
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angusc

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Hi mate don't know if this can help you....i got usb bricked with my rooted and s-off desire. I flashed a an RUU thinking it would solve my issue but of course it just left me with a USB Brick unrooted! You can't write to that and no access with Adb. I got great help from Unrevoked page which fixed me by getting me back to root.

I summarised the process here:
="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14459375&postcount=520"Here

Hope you might have success with your issue. If this does not help directly you might follow the link to the help page on UnRevoked.....
Sent with Desire.
 
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alidsd

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Thank all of you for taking interest in my problem.
At the end I have got success BUT with failure. Here is my story.

1. Erased and Flashed with RiffBox with CID=11111111 (super id)
2. Kept cell phone in refrigerator for only 5 minutes.
3. Installed the new ROM from PB99IMG.zip (PB99IMG_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.zip ) without any error.
4. Kept cell phone again in refrigerator for only 5 minutes.
5. Started the cell phone for the first time and executed setup and went till the Home screen fine.
6. Tried some games and flash intensive web sites, and ohhh the phone rebooted.

It rebooted again and again. Untill I pulled out the battery and put it again after 30 minutes, but was unable to reach home screen.

Again kept the cell phone in refrigerator and phone works for a short time before it starts reboot loop.

So the main problem is rebooting now.
I spent nearly 16 hours on net , reading forums/posts for solution but at the end found that there is no solution except the motherboard replacement.

I am in PK and here is no HTC service center. I bought it second hand so dont have any warranty card/info with me.

So its just like a piece of scrape for me.

Anyways again thank you all for the great help. May be this refrigerator solution could work for anyone.

Thanks,
Ali
 

alidsd

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No, I didn't try to change the CID to orange. And there is no orange related PB** or RUU on shipped roms.

I dont think Orange have done some customization in kernel or any other part.
I have seen threads running the generic version on orange brand phone. So it shouldn't be a issue, however bootloop problem is not related to either generic or orange brand rom , its related to motherboard.
Have you seen any post in which generic rom is initiating bootloop while the orange rom solved it ?

Thanks,
Ali
 

undercover

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No Ali, I haven't. Seeing that you are in the dead end, I think that its worth trying everything from scratch. Don't know much about cid change, but could it be that cid is in a few places and now that you've changed it it sort of fights itself ? Will have a look into all this a bit later, I'm far from guru, but with a bit of luck should be able to find some info.

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alidsd

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Hi tinky1,

Well, I have complete nandroid backup (boot, data, recovery and system images). I did it when I was rooted by unrevoked (clockworkmod).
Currently I have installed stock rom '2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_ release_159811', so how can I restore my earlier backup (i will again change the CID to orange, no issue) ?
Please remember i can not root now due to boot loop problem.
Any suggestion ?

Ali
 

alidsd

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Currently I have working fastboot and hboot. Recovery is not working , it stuck on HTC green logo.
Normal phone startup is also not functional, it reboots itself before it reaches 'Quietly Brilliant' logo.
 

alidsd

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I have managed to install Cyanogenmod 7 but the bootloop problem still exist. Analyzing the problem.

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