Defy Car Dock and Battery 1700mAh (HF5X)

farsight73

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I thought everybody should know this. Our Normal Defy should work with the 1700mAh battery with the patch provided in the Development thread.
Or you can download it here too.

1) The OEM motorola HF5X 1700mAh (SNN5890) found selling HERE

2) The Defy car dock that triggered the Cardock application found selling HERE

 

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veimus

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new battery will not work with Defy. Due to the implementation of different technologies Li-ion -> Li-pol and different voltage! even after applying the patch, the battery will not be charged for the full
 
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renoob

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new battery will not work with Defy. Due to the implementation of different technologies Li-ion -> Li-pol and different voltage! even after applying the patch, the battery will not be charged for the full
I've read about this- any other reports?
Is this the 85% charged symptom?
 

coolravsun

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I have motorola MB525 defy bought in September 2011. Last week, my phone battery got deep discharged and the phone won't boot even after plugging in the charger.

As the phone was under warranty, i got the battery replaced yesterday but i got HF5X 1700mAh (the one in Defy+) as replacement. The service centre guy said that it would work with my Defy.

I kept the phone on charging for more than 12 hours continuously but the battery keeps charging and battery level is not going beyond 80%. :(

Can you please suggest what should i do? Can your OEM patch help? If yes, how do I use it?
 

scrannel

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Just for clarity... is it that the battery IS charged but the battery indicator doesn't show this? Or is it actually NOT charging?
 
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wawroo

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it is definitely better for battery life when we are charging it every time 80% instead of 100%, true and maybe this was service guy main idea..
 
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coolravsun

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Just for clarity... is it that the battery IS charged but the battery indicator doesn't show this? Or is it actually NOT charging?
I do not think that the battery charges to full as battery voltage reaches a max of 4.158 V. Whereas, as per what I've read about Defy+ battery, it needs to be charged upto 4.4 V for full charge.

Any Idea how to make it charge to full 4.4 V?

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it is definitely better for battery life when we are charging it every time 80% instead of 100%, true and maybe this was service guy main idea..
Hey Wawroo,

I don't think the service guy was even aware that the battery would not charge to full capacity.

And btw,can u please explain how is it better to charge the battery upto 80% only and not 100%?
 

cristianosite

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I disagree with the idea to be better for the battery life to charge up to 80% instead full capacity. I always charge it up to full capacity, and after 10 months my Defy spend 2 days and 10 hours to complete discharge the battery. I am using the CM7.2 with battery recalibration.
By the way, I think your software doesn't recognize the new battery capacity. You should try some battery recalibration in case you have the recovery menu.
 
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coolravsun

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I disagree with the idea to be better for the battery life to charge up to 80% instead full capacity. I always charge it up to full capacity, and after 10 months my Defy spend 2 days and 10 hours to complete discharge the battery. I am using the CM7.2 with battery recalibration.
By the way, I think your software doesn't recognize the new battery capacity. You should try some battery recalibration in case you have the recovery menu.
Thanks Cristianosite for the reply.

Can you please help me about this 'Recovery Menu'? I mean, what is this and how do I get it on my phone?
 

cristianosite

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@coolravsun

Recovery menu is a tool which allow us to access some 'service' options in our device, such as flash alternatives roms, battery recalibration, wipe cache, wipe data, etc... You will find more details on Defy XDA Wiki. To get this you have to root your device. In the wiki you will find more details.

However, please pay attention to the comment of veimus.

new battery will not work with Defy. Due to the implementation of different technologies Li-ion -> Li-pol and different voltage! even after applying the patch, the battery will not be charged for the full
I have no much knowledge about this technologies. Maybe you should take a look on that.
 

coolravsun

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@coolravsun

Recovery menu is a tool which allow us to access some 'service' options in our device, such as flash alternatives roms, battery recalibration, wipe cache, wipe data, etc... You will find more details on Defy XDA Wiki. To get this you have to root your device. In the wiki you will find more details.

However, please pay attention to the comment of veimus.



I have no much knowledge about this technologies. Maybe you should take a look on that.
I have my phone rooted and have got the clockworkmod recovery installed.

I just wiped all battery statistics via recovery menu and factory-reset my defy (took nandroid back-up of my phone b4 dat). And then, put my phone to charging in the switched-off state. It charged to 100% in about 2 hours. But, within 2-3 minutes of as I turned it ON, the battery dropped to 90%. I have not restored my backup yet and am planning to use the phone till it drops to 10% and then again charge it to full.

What do you suggest?
 

coolravsun

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I have my phone rooted and have got the clockworkmod recovery installed.

I just wiped all battery statistics via recovery menu and factory-reset my defy (took nandroid back-up of my phone b4 dat). And then, put my phone to charging in the switched-off state. It charged to 100% in about 2 hours. But, within 2-3 minutes of as I turned it ON, the battery dropped to 90%. I have not restored my backup yet and am planning to use the phone till it drops to 10% and then again charge it to full.

What do you suggest?
Even after using this method, the battery is still charging uptill 80% and the life isn't as good as it was with my original Defy battery. Also, i tried the app 'BATTERY REPAIR' available on android market. But it didn't help either. Going to the motorola service center to get the Defy+ battery replaced. :(
 

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To solve the problem on defy with defy+ battery try flash cm9 quarx ou epsylon Defy+ rom. And DON'T apply the the battery fix patch. Since the patch was made to use in regular defy, the rom is designed to work with defy+ battery. But you can't flash it on green lens because it will brick the cam.