Different camera sensors? Isocell vs imx240?

[Bananaz]

So some users(me included) reports that their s6 have a isocell sensor instead sony imx240.
With note 4 has the same drama, and some people defend is just a string error.

Is really the same sensor with different string?
Is the sensor the same, just made by other manufacturer?

Because honestly mine s6 reports an isocell sensor, and i feel, dunno if is only different to my eyes, the photos from a imx240 look better.

ISOCELL

Sony

Thanks

 

[omrij]

Mine showing isocell like the first photo. Actual results are great so I'm satisfied.

 

[2Nice4U]

Here the same...no SonyChip [emoji15]
But the photo results are very impressive compared to my old ONE M8.

I used this Code to test it: *#34971539#

 

[sdfsdfsfs]

So some users(me included) reports that their s6 have a isocell sensor instead sony imx240.
With note 4 has the same drama, and some people defend is just a string error.

Is really the same sensor with different string?
Is the sensor the same, just made by other manufacturer?

Because honestly mine s6 reports an isocell sensor, and i feel, dunno if is only different to my eyes, the photos from a imx240 look better.

ISOCELL

Sony

Thanks

i have the sony imx240 sensor...here is my photo.do you have the same level of detail?

 

[Bananaz]

One pic from my phone.
Your picture feels better overall.
Or its only in my eyes.

 

[se1000]

So some users(me included) reports that their s6 have a isocell sensor instead sony imx240.
With note 4 has the same drama, and some people defend is just a string error.

Is really the same sensor with different string?
Is the sensor the same, just made by other manufacturer?

Because honestly mine s6 reports an isocell sensor, and i feel, dunno if is only different to my eyes, the photos from a imx240 look better.

Thanks

Supposedly, it's just how the kernel is reporting the ISP, not the sensor itself.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44

 

[KarlDag]

According to this I have an isocell sensor. Differences?

 

[DrearierJester1]

Supposedly, it's just how the kernel is reporting the ISP, not the sensor itself.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44

But why does other phones reports Sony sensor? Are these FW not using the same kernel?

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

 

[Bananaz]

Or maybe is just other manufacturer for the same sensor.
I dont know, but is weird.

 

[TheEndHK]

Supposedly, it's just how the kernel is reporting the ISP, not the sensor itself.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44

But what if the kernel answer is right....

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One pic from my phone.
Your picture feels better overall.
Or its only in my eyes.

It looks like IMX240 real beats ISOCell even at outdoor now.

 

[se1000]

But why does other phones reports Sony sensor? Are these FW not using the same kernel?

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I think it's the ISP (Image Signal Processor) that's different, some are made by sony and some are made by samsung. The sensors themselves may all be IMX240. I'm just guessing here.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02...s6-and-s6-edge-have-the-imx240-camera-sensor/

 

[DevonSloan]

One pic from my phone.
Your picture feels better overall.
Or its only in my eyes.

I disagree. Yours has amazing detail in the sky/clouds, he has a more interesting photo and composition. I think it's the difference in content that is creating a perceived difference. The only way it will be determined is to take the same picture at the same place and same time with the two sensors. :/

 

[TheEndHK]

I think it's the ISP (Image Signal Processor) that's different, some are made by sony and some are made by samsung. The sensors themselves may all be IMX240. I'm just guessing here.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/02...s6-and-s6-edge-have-the-imx240-camera-sensor/

ISP should be the same this time because we are all on Exynos ISP.

 

[Svendrae]

Hi,

I wonder why Samsung use a Sony sensor at Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Last year Isocell was a big thing for the Galaxy S5 because of good quality and the ability for a fast focus.

And the pictures was really great for a smartphone, in my opinion the best Android Camera in 2014.

Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
My Galaxy S6 has the IMX Sensor from Sony and pictures are very good and a little better like the Galaxy S5 pictures. But I expected a new version of isocell Sensor.

Why does Samsung drop it?

 

[DevonSloan]

Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?

I'm certain it's one of only two things: either the Sony is better, or it's cheaper. (Or both.)



Would it be beneficial at all for for us to give our region, carrier, and sensor? Does getting more info like that help figure out the difference? (If it's not just a string read error.)

I'm:
CA, USA
Sprint
Sony

 

[vitas13]

Europe,
Poland,
PLUS.
ISOCell .

 

[se1000]

ISP should be the same this time because we are all on Exynos ISP.

Not necessarily.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Teardown/39174 - check out step 10. "Samsung C2N8AF"

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Edge+Teardown/39158 - step 11 "Samsung C2N89U"

These could just be inter changeable but just sourced from different manufacturers.

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Hi,

I wonder why Samsung use a Sony sensor at Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Last year Isocell was a big thing for the Galaxy S5 because of good quality and the ability for a fast focus.

And the pictures was really great for a smartphone, in my opinion the best Android Camera in 2014.

Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
My Galaxy S6 has the IMX Sensor from Sony and pictures are very good and a little better like the Galaxy S5 pictures. But I expected a new version of isocell Sensor.

Why does Samsung drop it?

Sony imaging sensors are highly regarded as some of the best sensors in the industry, not only for smartphones but also for DSLR's, etc. Sony makes most of the sensors that are in high end Nikon DSLR's.

 

[TheEndHK]

Hi,

I wonder why Samsung use a Sony sensor at Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6. Last year Isocell was a big thing for the Galaxy S5 because of good quality and the ability for a fast focus.

And the pictures was really great for a smartphone, in my opinion the best Android Camera in 2014.

Now Samsung using a Sony Sensor and I want to know: why?
My Galaxy S6 has the IMX Sensor from Sony and pictures are very good and a little better like the Galaxy S5 pictures. But I expected a new version of isocell Sensor.

Why does Samsung drop it?

The ISOCell quality at low light isn't good enough and Sony is still better but ISOCell was managed to outperform Sony at outdoor when compared to like IMX135. This time IMX240 is doing good both outdoor and indoor.

The sales of Samsung is dropping too and hard to maintain a production line but if S6/S6E and Note5 sales real good then ISOCell 2nd gen is possible to happen in the future.

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Not necessarily.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Teardown/39174 - check out step 10. "Samsung C2N8AF"

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S6+Edge+Teardown/39158 - step 11 "Samsung C2N89U"

They are still Exynos ISP because they used different size to fit on the PCB and Samsung gave them with two model number. If you copy and paste out of two chips in photoshop and you will see the one on S6 is slightly larger than S6E.

 

[se1000]

The ISOCell quality at low light isn't good enough and Sony is still better but ISOCell was managed to outperform Sony at outdoor when compared to like IMX135. This time IMX240 is doing good both outdoor and indoor.

The sales of Samsung is dropping too and hard to maintain a production line but if S6/S6E and Note5 sales real good then ISOCell 2nd gen is possible to happen in the future.

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They are still Exynos ISP because they used different size to fit on the PCB and Samsung gave them with two model number. If you copy and paste out of two chips in photoshop and you will see the one on S6 is slightly larger than S6E.

Right but the point is, the ISP is separate from the sensor itself.

 

[vegetaleb]

Got Sony sensor S6 from Italian market made in China