Question Disable doze?

[96carboard]

This is an issue with the introduction of doze. I can confirm that on every single Android phone I've used since doze was introduced "think it was marshmallow, could be wrong". I have experienced this issue with all my pixel phones up to 4xl, Galaxy s21 Ultra, and OnePlus 7 Pro and 8 Pro. Executing "dumpsys deviceidle disable" via rooted device in terminal or the adb command via computer fixes the issue 100% every time. I also experience no extra battery drain. Google simply needs to get rid of doze it's no longer needed. I carry an iPhone along with my android of choice and only when device idle is disabled do I get my notifications instantly just like I do without fail on my iphone. It's very depressing to have to jump through hoops to get important instant notifications on an Android phone.

If I were to guess, all your notifications go through gooble, right? Software that gets notified directly doesn't have the doze problem because those programs can be selectively granted unrestricted battery access.

But the goog notifications problem is that there are a bunch of separate parts that it has to feed through, and while they do force some of it unrestricted, it seems that the unrestricted state misses some important component.

The ultimate solution, therefore, is to wean yourself off of goog.

 

[amwbt]

No sir. It's not all Google apps. Happens to MyQ app which tells me when my garage door opens and closes. Facebook Messenger, discord, Verizon messages Plus. There are others I just can't remember them off the top of my head.

 

[amwbt]

A lot of these notifications I won't get unless I unlock my screen. Or I plug it into a charger. This is directly due to the device idle, I have tested everything over my career with Android and it is simply linked to device idle you will not convince me otherwise. I've been using Android since Android was developed.

 

[amwbt]

The only app that always comes through directly and instantly every time even if I haven't used my phone in 10 plus minutes is the Google messaging app. Everything else has been delayed 5 10 20 minutes and then sometimes not even tell like I said I unlocked my phone or I plug it into a charger.

 

[96carboard]

No sir. It's not all Google apps. Happens to MyQ app which tells me when my garage door opens and closes. Facebook Messenger, discord, Verizon messages Plus. There are others I just can't remember them off the top of my head.

I didn't say "google apps" I said software that USES gooble for transferring notifications.

 

[96carboard]

Google messaging

Because despite the name, it doesn't use gooble to send the notification. Its direct SMS.

 

[amwbt]

I didn't say "google apps" I said software that USES gooble for transferring notifications.

Not all the apps use Google. I know what you are saying.

 

[96carboard]

Not all the apps use Google. I know what you are saying.

The ones that DO NOT use gooble will work 100%, as long as you unrestrict (disable doze) it. And if that's not the case, then despite your belief, they're using gooble.

 

[amwbt]

Not all the apps use Google. I know what you are saying.

Even if that were the case that's still stupid because there's so many apps out there that have to use Google's software I mean it's Google, Android is Google so they just need to fix it. Not all the apps that I use connect through Google for notifications.

 

[96carboard]

Even if that were the case that's still stupid because there's so many apps out there that have to use Google's software I mean it's Google, Android is Google so they just need to fix it. Not all the apps that I use connect through Google for notifications.

Not correct, Android is NOT GOOBLE. Android is AOSP. Gooble is closed source crap that gets mixed into Android.

How do you know if something connects through or not?

 

[amwbt]

Not correct, Android is NOT GOOBLE. Android is AOSP. Gooble is closed source crap that gets mixed into Android.

How do you know if something connects through or not?

Like I said, wether it is or not. It's a problem that Google needs to fix. I don't know how you use your phone, but you can't simply stop using apps that connect through Google when almost everything you use connects through Google if you need automated home items that use Google home. Plus all kinds of other apps. We're talking about Android devices that the public use not people like you that may run asop or custom roms. It's something that Google can fix, and they need to fix it. That's simply all I'm saying and disabling device idle fixes that problem for me for every app that I need it too and will help the majority of the public that use these phones and want to use the apps that they want to use, even if they so happen to be Google apps.

 

[96carboard]

Like I said, wether it is or not. It's a problem that Google needs to fix. I don't know how you use your phone, but you can't simply stop using apps that connect through Google when almost everything you use connects through Google if you need automated home items that use Google home. Plus all kinds of other apps. We're talking about Android devices that the public use not people like you that may run asop or custom roms. It's something that Google can fix, and they need to fix it. That's simply all I'm saying and disabling device idle fixes that problem for me for every app that I need it too and will help the majority of the public that use these phones and want to use the apps that they want to use, even if they so happen to be Google apps.

I honestly couldn't care less what "other people" use. Nor do I care if they fix whatever stupid problem there is that is making notifications not work correctly.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that in the long run it would be a LOT BETTER if they KEPT it nice and broken, because that will prompt software developers not to rely on their broken services to deliver messages to users.

I do NOT have any of their closed binary components installed. I do NOT use anything that sends notifications via their services. I absolutely refuse to have them monitoring traffic to and from my devices. I *have* written my own push notifications service for some things that I use.

I firmly believe that the best way forward for everyone (except those trying to make a profit out of spying on people) is to ensure that there is no reliance on any closed source software components.

 

[amwbt]

Hey man I understand exactly what you're saying. I don't like it either, but I'm not in the same wavelength as you are as far as how to use android. I can install custom roms root devices and all that stuff but I don't go that far into it I just need a device that works and delivers notifications when I need them. But I commend you for everything you just said because that would be great.

 

[RetroTech07]

One of my biggest gripes about Android is the fact that notifications are often delayed. This is because Google has implemented doze - a feature which saves battery life. That's great 'n all, but I absolutely need my notifications ASAP as they're paramount to my business.

I've used the following adb command for a while now to disable doze: adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable. I know this only works until you restart your phone, but I don't mind doing the command line once a week.

However, it looks like this command does not work for the Pixel 6 Pro. I'm not sure why, but it just doesn't. At first, I thought it may have been an Android 12 issue, but that turned out to be completely incorrect as my new S22 Ultra that's on Android 12 suffered the same delayed notifications ailment, but was remedied by the aforementioned adb command. Now my S22 Ultra gets Gmail/push notifications immediately and on time. So it might be the SoC that's to blame for some reason.

I like the Pixel 6 Pro, I really do. I enjoy Google's UI, the physical look of the phone, etc. but I cannot keep a phone that does not receive notifications on time. Is there a different adb command or a way to disable doze to get notifications on time on the Pixel 6 Pro?

And before anyone recommends it - yes I've tried not optimising Gmail, different email apps, and all the app workarounds - nothing works. Same applies for the S22 Ultra and all my previous Android phones. Only disabling doze allows for push notifications to come through on time.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm not keen on keeping this S22 Ultra, but will if there's no genuine workaround for disabling Doze on the Pixel 6 Pro.

Cheers!

Try running this command to disable doze and see if it helps you:

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable

You can also try to whitelist one app to see if notifications come through normally...

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle whitelist +<package name>

I hope this helps.

 

[remoh]

Try running this command to disable doze and see if it helps you:

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable

If you have root get DozeOff from F-Droid, it does (only) this automatically on reboot.
Im my case, with MIUI, the ONLY way to get Notifications from Gmail working without unlock. All other apps get notifications without problems. Disabling Battery optimization for gmail does not help.