Disappointed in Lollipop implementation by Samsung ( CameraV2 API, RAW support etc )

[bala_gamer]

i heard even nexus 6 dont have those camera controls on stock, is it true?

 

[galaxynote2]

i heard even nexus 6 dont have those camera controls on stock, is it true?

You heard false facts, mate. Actually, Camera API 2.0 is only supported in two Nexus devices: 5 and 6.

There are great improvements in Lollipop, but they are core improvements, not everything we wanted
We have Material Design! Yay! Cool, it's what we were waiting for.
We have new animations, faster transitions, a much more faster device, bright colors (Mm, Amoled fans, White UI is nice and It doesn't drains the battery. Come on, you're not navigating in the settings app everytime), and more.
There's no new API to the camera, the UI still feels old, and Touchwiz ditched the original Lollipop Statusbar from old builds (see photo below) and more. I hope to have these additions in future updates. Come on! We still have 2 years of support! (or even more, look at the Note 2 getting Lollipop soon!)
Right now I like how it looks. At least better than kitkat...
Waiting for the S6 so we can start porting the new UI to our phone :good:

 

[PieOfJustice]

I'm just hoping they fix the focus problems that are really noticeable on the N910W8 models. In general I'm not happy with the camera. My i5 takes really nice photos and spec wise the Note 4 blows it away yet they look awful. Also the inability to properly lock focus and the amount of noise on pictures is awful. I feel I need a super-nova of light just to get decent pictures.

 

[wintermute000]

Is tbe gallery lag still there when opening from camera . Drives me nuts

 

[Blackwolf10]

the only problem i have with the new version is the battery life from 100-0 seems to be done by brembo brakes , and i think most of the previous UI looked much better example is the dialer app seems to be a part of kids mode or something , the phone is pretty much lag free and the new keyboard is pretty good

 

[TheEndHK]

Waiting for the S6 so we can start porting the new UI to our phone :good:

I'm afraid very hard to port because S6 is using entirely new Exynos 7420 and it is not just porting the camera.apk, u gonna port the kernel camera driver and some /system files related.

 

[galaxynote2]

I'm afraid very hard to port because S6 is using entirely new Exynos 7420 and it is not just porting the camera.apk, u gonna port the kernel camera driver and some /system files related.

Camera? No... I know it would be hard. If it was hard to port the Note 2 camera to the GS3 which both had the same processor, I can't imagine in this case. I was talking about the new Touchwiz btw. If Samsung didn't remade the framework from scratch, maybe different apps could be compatible with our Lollipop roms.

 

[marleyb]

i heard even nexus 6 dont have those camera controls on stock, is it true?

Nexus has it. One plus One and LG has them too I bet you we will see these new lollipop features on the upcoming Samsung devices and not on the current ones, simply because Samsung would love you for buying a new device

 

[jetbruceli]

I hate the camera app on the nexus 5. Or should I say the Google camera. It's boring with no features.
At least with Samsung we have some options. And now the camera app has a standard setting for 1080p 60fps.
I do believe before on Kk we could do 60fps on 1080p and below but now I think it's locked to 1080p

 

[Sublation]

My Graphics 3D perfomance drops 50% with Lollipop, same as Multitasking that lost 2000 points, the rest it's better or the same as was on Kitkat, Samsung needs to optimize the GPU on Lollipop right now !

Antutu is garbage. Even on Kitkat I could run it and get 39K, run it immediately again and get 50K.

Any benchmark that runs solely from the phone will not be accurate in the least.

Lollipop is new... there's still a lot of optimization that needs to happen. Especially for 3rd party apps.

Gaming apps are the bottom of the rubbish bin in terms of quality support and development.

Oh but it's all samsungs fault some buggy benchmark software gave you a low score.

 

[Jonathan-H]

Is tbe gallery lag still there when opening from camera . Drives me nuts

On mine, I get this the very first time I go to a picture from the camera. Every single time after that it loads instantly. If you are constantly clearing apps via recents button, this makes it load again and it will keep happening.

As for camera, RAW on a camera phone is a complete waste of time. It's hardly needed for amateur photographers on SLR's either although no one is going to admit it. Too many photo masters in phone forums to admit RAW is overrated lol.

So far lollipop on Note 4 is okay.

 

[marleyb]

Too many photo masters in phone forums to admit RAW is overrated lol.

It's not only about RAW it's the big picture, were talking about enhanced camera control which is so much more the just RAW support

 

[willowpc]

Antutu is garbage. Even on Kitkat I could run it and get 39K, run it immediately again and get 50K.

Any benchmark that runs solely from the phone will not be accurate in the least.

Lollipop is new... there's still a lot of optimization that needs to happen. Especially for 3rd party apps.

Gaming apps are the bottom of the rubbish bin in terms of quality support and development.

Oh but it's all samsungs fault some buggy benchmark software gave you a low score.

Yeah, i solved the problem... full wipe + Wanan 2.0 Lollipop ROM + BOB4 Bootlooader and Modem via ODIN...

Now i can get 48~50k on AnTuTu, bad 3D graphics yet, but better than before, (now i'm with 13.000 points and yesterday i was with 7k points in 3D graphics), not so good as was on Kitkat but acceptable. :silly:

 

[Menneisyys]

Raw? DSLR? Carry a camera. It's like you're asking the Note 4 to do it all.

Actually, at least under KitKat, on Snap805-based Note4, you could export RAW-like images from Snap camera HDR. Needless to say, they (assuming good lights) are of much higher quality than out-of-camera JPEG's.

You don't believe this? Just check out my direct comparisons at http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/shooting-light-best-image-quality-note-4-t3012008

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As for camera, RAW on a camera phone is a complete waste of time. It's hardly needed for amateur photographers on SLR's either although no one is going to admit it. Too many photo masters in phone forums to admit RAW is overrated lol.

Absolutely wrong. Check out my comparisons linked above.

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At least with Samsung we have some options. And now the camera app has a standard setting for 1080p 60fps.
I do believe before on Kk we could do 60fps on 1080p and below but now I think it's locked to 1080p

I don't really get what you say. In the stock client, under KitKat,

1, you can use both 30p and 60p while shooting 1080p.
2, you can't use anything over 30p in higher resolutions (hardware restriction). That is, don't expect 4Kp60 or anything.

 

[banttu]

Yep, that is exactly and ALL I am disappointed in... Samsung seem incapable of making a phone that is as smooth as a Nexus 5, despite faster processor and more ram.

Mark.

I'd say it's as fast. This one just has no animation bringing recents up.

 

[marleyb]

Actually, at least under KitKat, on Snap805-based Note4, you could export RAW-like images from Snap camera HDR. Needless to say, they (assuming good lights) are of much higher quality than out-of-camera JPEG's.

You don't believe this? Just check out my direct comparisons at http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/shooting-light-best-image-quality-note-4-t3012008

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Absolutely wrong. Check out my comparisons linked above.

Great article @Menneisyys :good:

 

[sPEADy]

Who is gonna be the first one to make a thread about reverting back to KK 4.4.4 :-/

 

[droidelec]

I am really happy with my N910C, faster, more stable, no lag and issues. Lollipop 5.0.1 flying at mine. So many new features, amazing work from Samsung. Actually with this build of 5.0.1 LP I start to like TouchWiz.

 

[jetbruceli]

I don't really get what you say. In the stock client, under KitKat,

1, you can use both 30p and 60p while shooting 1080p.
2, you can't use anything over 30p in higher resolutions (hardware restriction). That is, don't expect 4Kp60 or anything.[/QUOTE

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Originally Posted by jetbruceli
At least with Samsung we have some options. And now the camera app has a standard setting for 1080p 60fps.
I do believe before on Kk we could do 60fps on 1080p and below but now I think it's locked to 1080p


Notice I said 60FPS on 1080p and below? I found out that before if you selected 720p and then selected smooth motion it would lock the resolution to 1080p.
Now they just made it more noticeable

 

[Sublation]

I think we get the picture about the camera. ;p