DISCONTINUED Safestrap Without Odin+Safestrap Flashable Firmwares

jrkruse

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...Damn. My phone came with BOG5 on it. Welp...so be it.

A followup question: There are Verizon Samsung G5 unlocked phones out there for less than $300. Can I gain elevated privileges on a phone of this type, but still use the Verizon network. Thanx again, you've been most helpful. :highfive:
Unless they are Developer editions there is no way they are unlocked if they are Verizon S5. If they are just an S5 that is unlocked this means they are a GMS phone and they won't work on Verizon. In order to root the phone needs to have BOC5 firmware or lower
 

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Unless they are Developer editions there is no way they are unlocked if they are Verizon S5. If they are just an S5 that is unlocked this means they are a GMS phone and they won't work on Verizon. In order to root the phone needs to have BOC5 firmware or lower
...that's it then. It is truly impossible to develop apps directly on a retail edition of a Samsung phone with build BOG5 or later - unless, of course, you are a carrier or Google employee. Nono, don't tell me they can't do it - you know they have special phones not available to the developer community with special bootloaders where they can write any app they want on it.

There are only two options left then:

a. If a level 1 hypervisor exists for Android devices in the Google Play store, then one could run AndroidX86's fine port as a virtual image on top of the locked OS on the phone. And if that worked one could flash a custom ROM on top of that. Of course, a level 0 hypervisor can't exist because installation of any system directly on the hardware is impossible except for carrier or Google developers. (I'm old enough to remember the IE/Netscape for Windows war, where IE had the clear advantage because the Windows developers were right down the hall, but the Netscape developers had no access. The CEO gave up and open sourced Netscape, which became Firefox. >:) )

b. Run the AndroidX86 port on VMWare Fusion Pro for OSX, or in VirtualBox.

...And if NEITHER option is possible, then this...'open source' system called Android is in fact a CLOSED system to all but carrier and Google software developers.

Update: AndroidX86 version 4.x WILL load up in VMWare Fusion Pro. It won't run, however - but it will install and run.

Looks like my research is complete. Thanx to everyone who helped me, they were invaluable. :highfive:
 

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...that's it then. It is truly impossible to develop apps directly on a retail edition of a Samsung phone with build BOG5 or later - unless, of course, you are a carrier or Google employee. Nono, don't tell me they can't do it - you know they have special phones not available to the developer community with special bootloaders where they can write any app they want on it.



There are only two options left then:



a. If a level 1 hypervisor exists for Android devices in the Google Play store, then one could run AndroidX86's fine port as a virtual image on top of the locked OS on the phone. And if that worked one could flash a custom ROM on top of that. Of course, a level 0 hypervisor can't exist because installation of any system directly on the hardware is impossible except for carrier or Google developers. (I'm old enough to remember the IE/Netscape for Windows war, where IE had the clear advantage because the Windows developers were right down the hall, but the Netscape developers had no access. The CEO gave up and open sourced Netscape, which became Firefox. >:) )



b. Run the AndroidX86 port on VMWare Fusion Pro for OSX, or in VirtualBox.



...And if NEITHER option is possible, then this...'open source' system called Android is in fact a CLOSED system to all but carrier and Google software developers.



Update: AndroidX86 version 4.x WILL load up in VMWare Fusion Pro. It won't run, however - but it will install and run.



Looks like my research is complete. Thanx to everyone who helped me, they were invaluable. :highfive:

oh we're not done here yet ;]

I think this could be jus what you could be looking for >> http://softwarebakery.com/projects/drivedroid

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pudnik

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oh we're not done here yet ;]

I think this could be jus what you could be looking for >> http://softwarebakery.com/projects/drivedroid

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...Uhm, no, I'm afraid not. Sorry. From the DriveDroid page:

"...Notes: DriveDroid requires a rooted Android system..."

...Not to diss DriveDroid, I'm sure it's a great app...but I don't see a reason why I need it when I have VMWare images of several operating systems - including Android - that will run on my OSX laptop. Thanx though. :)
 

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Hello all! It has been awhile since I updated my phone. Work has kept me busy. My phone is rooted and running Android 4.4.4 and everything works well.
My specs are:
Verizon SG5 Model SM-G900V
Build KTU84P, G900VVRU1ANI2
Baseband G900VVRU1ANI2
Safestrap 3.7.5
Rooted with Towelroot V3
SuperSu Pro V2.46 installed
BusyBox Pro 1.23.2 installed
Rootchecker v5.5.8 installed
Root Cloak installed
Wanam Exposed V3.4.3 and Exposed Installer 2.7 experimental1 installed

I know that SG5 with Android Lollipop can’t be rooted and I have seen threads that allow for installing a prerooted Lollipop based ROM. Given my current setup will this, as shown in the OP, allow me to move to Lollipop?
 

TheTrueGatorman

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Hello all! It has been awhile since I updated my phone. Work has kept me busy. My phone is rooted and running Android 4.4.4 and everything works well.

I know that SG5 with Android Lollipop can’t be rooted and I have seen threads that allow for installing a prerooted Lollipop based ROM. Given my current setup will this, as shown in the OP, allow me to move to Lollipop?
I came from the same state. Following this thread worked well for me. Read thru it and you'll be fine.
 

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Sorry, for the newbie question, but I'm not sure what to do.

On the first step it show to Flash Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip. Am I flashing that with ODIN? I don't have SS or FF installed. I have BOE1 rooted.
 

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Sorry, for the newbie question, but I'm not sure what to do.

On the first step it show to Flash Rooting_Tools_For_S5_Lollipop.zip. Am I flashing that with ODIN? I don't have SS or FF installed. I have BOE1 rooted.
It has to be flashed you had to get to boe1 rooted by flashing something so use that same method to flash rooting tools
 
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I can't seem to find either Safestrap or Flashfire for BOE1. Can you point me to a download for either? Thanks for taking the time to help me.
SafeStrap is already in the download file that JK told you about. Once you download the file, use root explore, open up the rooting tools file you downloaded, open up the RootS5 file, and you'll see the SafeStrap app and install it.
 

LDBAKE

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Coming from Muniz OG5 Odexed?

I currently have muniz OG5 "Odexed" rooted. Can I just flash jrkruse VZW_BOG5_STOCK_ROM_DEODEXED.ZIP to change from ODEXED to DEODEXED, then just Wipe Dalvik Cache and Cache, then Reboot Normal? Or are there other steps I NEED to take in order to switch? (Using Flash Fire v.21)
Thanks for helping out an Old Grandpa :)
 

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Jrkruse, I have your zip but I upgraded roms to BOG5. I would like to use safestrap but I cannot flash it (no computer, flashfire broken). Any other way to flash the zip so I can get back to safestrap?

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SafeStrap is already in the download file that JK told you about. Once you download the file, use root explore, open up the rooting tools file you downloaded, open up the RootS5 file, and you'll see the SafeStrap app and install it.
Never mind he answered this question. Great set of tools. Thanks
I currently have muniz OG5 "Odexed" rooted. Can I just flash jrkruse VZW_BOG5_STOCK_ROM_DEODEXED.ZIP to change from ODEXED to DEODEXED, then just Wipe Dalvik Cache and Cache, then Reboot Normal? Or are there other steps I NEED to take in order to switch? (Using Flash Fire v.21)
Thanks for helping out an Old Grandpa :)

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---------- Post added at 01:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:53 PM ----------

And never mind again. I need a way to flash back to ncg to boot to recovery. Thanks

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Got it figured out. Had to turn off auto date and time to get flashfire to work. Again thanks for this great tool

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LDBAKE

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Coming from Muniz OG5 Odexed

Coming from Muniz OG5 Odexed?
I currently have muniz OG5 "Odexed" rooted. Can I just flash jrkruse VZW_BOG5_STOCK_ROM_DEODEXED.ZIP to change from ODEXED to DEODEXED, then just Wipe Dalvik Cache and Cache, then Reboot Normal? Or are there other steps I NEED to take in order to switch? (Using Flash Fire v.21)
Thanks for helping out an Old Grandpa
 
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Badger50

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Coming from Muniz OG5 Odexed?
I currently have muniz OG5 "Odexed" rooted. Can I just flash jrkruse VZW_BOG5_STOCK_ROM_DEODEXED.ZIP to change from ODEXED to DEODEXED, then just Wipe Dalvik Cache and Cache, then Reboot Normal? Or are there other steps I NEED to take in order to switch? (Using Flash Fire v.21)
Thanks for helping out an Old Grandpa
From one grandpa to another, I would do a full wipe, then install the Rom. As the saying goes...no wipes, no gripes :)
 

LDBAKE

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Thanks Badger50. When you say "full wipe" do you just mean Dalvik and Cache? I'm still kinda feeling my way around this phone. It's the only one I have, so I can't afford to screw it up.
 

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Thanks Badger50. When you say "full wipe" do you just mean Dalvik and Cache? I'm still kinda feeling my way around this phone. It's the only one I have, so I can't afford to screw it up.
No worries. Full wipe is, dalvik, cache, system, and data. But be careful not to have your .zip files on your internal storage, and not to wipe your external sdcard if your using SafeStrap. Just gotta take your time, and you'll be fine :)