I am not sure of what went wrong initially, but in the end i made it...
i was looking for possible ideas, @ThE_MarD
your idea brought me to try to install qdl (i guess it is meant to replace qspt on my linux system...)
had to fight some dependecies then qdl told me that could not find ufs...
looking for more qspt i found an old version of ZUI rom (11.0.483) and just by chance i tried to flash the recovery which was in this rom
like magic this worked, I mean , the recovery worked, couldn't do much with it but it worked
so i looked into old ROM for zippo and i found the TWRP 3.3.1 made by @alexeei
, i flashed that and it worked.
I have now sideloaded 11.5.381 firmware, lineageos 19 and Mindthegapps 12.1.0
lineageos logo is still loading... but i want to be optimistic
thank you all for the support