!!!!! Discussion and opinions Thread !!!!!

[kurt-willems]

First of all I open this new thread so that the users who have need to discussion about everything they will; that they can do it in this thread!!!!!!

I'm a person who live in a free country so I don't have the intention to ask to stop giving your opinion; but I find that if you need to change your opinion you must also respect the creator from the thread you do it in!!
I don't find it courteous to do it in a thread from someone else!!

So have respect to the people who have open his thread to give something to us and don't fill it with your opinions and discussions, and let his thread clean!

I open this thread so we can discuss about everything you want!!



@ the moderators!!

Sorry that I opened this thread but I was sad to see in several thread more posts about discussions with opinions from a work!! If you are not agreement with me, you can this thread!




[Mod edit] Thread has been close by request of the OP.

 

[11calcal]

Thank god
I'm starting to get bored with dinik vs the world that appears to be taking hostage of others peoples thread.
I'm not backing any sides I see both points of views but to hijack someone else's thread isn't fair on the originator.No doubt its still going to happen but at least they can now slag each other off in this thread opposed to stealing the limelight from others who decide to share in a public forum like this.
I'll shut up now and let the bitching commence
Cheers kurt

 

[wolfee]

I guess I will start it off with this then...


Happy Fathers day everyone!!!

 

[[★]]

I guess I will start it off with this then...


Happy Fathers day everyone!!!

lol!

 

[huggy_72]

hi,
i'm David and i have a problem!!!!
is not long time i'm addicted , but yes i'am ....

 

[rickyjune]

hi,
i'm David and i have a problem!!!!
is not long time i'm addicted , but yes i'am ....

trying to remove dink from my phone but even when i change it by JWD but it still show in my quick link ant suggestion

 

[Pandemoniumone]

Sorry but I don't really see the need for this thread. The mature route would be to handle
disagreements via pm rather than publically flaming and humiliating them. I would rather see the moderators putting a stop to this behaviour and not allowing it to go on at all.

 

[vgunmanga]

Sorry but I don't really see the need for this thread. The mature route would be to handle
disagreements via pm rather than publically flaming and humiliating them. I would rather see the moderators putting a stop to this behaviour and not allowing it to go on at all.

I agree, but a lot of people DO comment in the open, for different reasons. This may help to alleviate off-topic discussion in other threads, it may not.
This does not have to be a Flame war thread, opinions can be shared with civility.







EDIT: Happy Father's Day!

 

[huggy_72]

trying to remove dink from my phone but even when i change it by JWD but it still show in my quick link ant suggestion

no chance you can only destroy your phone, sorry

 

[dinik]

Ok, I'm sick of all this arguing and anger that is being caused on xda over my work, lets sort it out...

I started skinning for myself, and for fun, but when everyone seemed to like my work, I was happy to share what I do with everyone on xda, as that is what this community is all about, sharing. Also i have posted some rules, as i wanted to stay the set high quality. And i think the rules where fair for all.

However, since the success of Anastasia, I feel things are getting out of hand.. I didn't mind when people used some of my work, it made me feel proud and so I kept devleloping Anastasia for both me and xda... However the reason I teamed up with Miri in making the rom was because I thought people would like all my work in one easy to get to place, and it gave Miri's rom a nice, INDIVIDUAL theme.
HOWEVER, now DJC has suggested people rip my rom's files to put my work onto other roms, I am quite angry as I have specifically said that the files are exclusive.

But people went against my will and took my work, when I said not to do, and so I understandably got annoyed, however it seems I have become everyones enemy, when all I set out to do was have fun skinning different aspects of my phone....spending countless hours to give you all something unique and nice for FREE.

I don't see what is wrong with my decision? I provided a fair amount of cabs to skin alot of the phone on my thread that can be found [Here] and then said that any extra bits are exclusively for my rom, What is wrong with that? If there was nothing exclusive, then all the rom's would be the same, and Rom flashing could get boring for some people...

So here is what I have decided...

I will continue to do my work, as long as it doesn't start any more arguments, and I shall follow the rules I set out already. If anyone breaks them, or if another argument starts again, I will very likely stop skinning on xda all together, as it is starting to feel like more of a chore than a hobby...

So please, do not release my work, or any modification of my work, anywhere, You are free to modify what I do for personal use, but just don't release it. Also please dont re-upload my work anywhere else, please always just provide a link to where you originally found it on my thread, this way I can keep a better track of how many people download it.

Ah and btw...i decided not to post any cabs only because of some users hear...that again only anger abot me and my works...and ignored my wishes by copying my works without asking for permission...and without puting any credits! So now that people are forcing me again to do a next decision that i dont want (quit posting everything).

 

[vgunmanga]

@Dinik, I can respect your position. I just find that it is one that is not commonly taken here.

Of course, you are entitled to credit and respect, you have earned it many times over. I certainly have a high respect for your abilities.

But, to be honest seems wierd to have to avoid the use of certain elements because of exclusivity. We hack, slash, and decompile stuff as a rule of thumb around here.

Don't take this the wrong way, I will follow your rules. I would just like to try to convince you that exclusivity is not the way to go.

You have had issues with only a very small percentage of your users. No need to be upset and punish everyone. No one wants to see you fail.

 

[sardelisp]

Ok, I'm sick of all this arguing and anger that is being caused on xda over my work, lets sort it out......message truncated

with you my friend...this is unfair!!

 

[malhznoi]

Ok, I'm sick of all this arguing and anger that is being caused on xda over my work, lets sort it out.....message truncated..

.

i am with you

 

[Binary100100]

Just so you all know that this thread has been reported and is being watched.
Have a wonderful day (Fathers Day for all those that it applies to).

 

[quinckekorotkoffqk]

Justice for Dinik

@Dinik, I can respect your position. I just find that it is one that is not commonly taken here.

Of course, you are entitled to credit and respect, you have earned it many times over. I certainly have a high respect for your abilities.

But, to be honest seems wierd to have to avoid the use of certain elements because of exclusivity. We hack, slash, and decompile stuff as a rule of thumb around here.

Don't take this the wrong way, I will follow your rules. I would just like to try to convince you that exclusivity is not the way to go.

You have had issues with only a very small percentage of your users. No need to be upset and punish everyone. No one wants to see you fail.

exclusivity should be there for certain elements for certain period ,so that the originator gets due credit for his hard work in this community.
No one should just hijack someone else hard earned work without permission.
Really unfair.
Hope Dinik gets Justice and due credits for his hard work soon.

 

[vgunmanga]

exclusivity should be there for cetain elements for certain period ,so that the originator gets due credit for his hard work in this community.
Really unfair.Hope Dinik gets Justice and due credits for his hard work soon.

I can totally dig it if there is a exclusivity period. I have not heard a time frame discussed. I've only read that cabs will be no longer distributed and only HD2 owners on one ROM will get to use the theme.

I can handle that, but not without at least asking first. Call me a fan.

 

[dinik]

I can totally dig it if there is a exclusivity period. I have not heard a time frame discussed. I've only read that cabs will be no longer distributed and only HD2 owners on one ROM will get to use the theme.

i have posted i already somewhere...but again...
Originally it was planed to be 1st exclusive for rom and after some period of time...i wanted to post cabs.
But then it came to this:

i decided not to post any cabs only because of some users hear...that again only anger abot me and my works...and ignored my wishes by copying my works without asking for permission...and without puting any credits! So now that people are forcing me again to do a next decision that i dont want (quit posting everything).

 

[vgunmanga]

i have posted i already somewhere...but again...
Originally it was planed to be 1st exclusive for rom and after some period of time...i wanted to post cabs.
But then it came to this:

Cheers, missed that post. I only hope time will change your mind. Peace.

 

[djcedric]

Ok, I'm sick of all this arguing and anger that is being caused on xda over my work, lets sort it out...message truncated...

yes i have help another user and have say if he wants your files he can find them in miri's rom and he must extract them for personal use to not break the rules,your own rules(before your addition) to avoid discussion like this but you can't resist,you must have this child reaction like you have them all the time.
its clear we all know your rules today....
your crying all the time for respect but you never had respect for anyone here until you have a win situation...is this in first place not disrespect to others?
and no im not jalous but i think on all the other skinners here,with your rules and requests applyed today for each skinner then in each rom threads there will be more rules,names,donate buttons as info about the creation,i think all posts must be changed here and in the roms thread.

now you don't have made the new rule 12 that you use so much but im thinking if this rule is not made to avoid your problem that you have create here in the biginning.is this a good idea, yes but it does not and will not give you more right, that would be wrong for others.
I also think you should listen instead of always getting mad you do not even leave you time to think so that you act quickly!

so i ask you to calm down and on moderators to think about it and enforce the rules but all the same.this must stop because where is fun today on xda?

the truth is that I have never seen such situations before!

Thanks

 

[dinik]

i dont get what you wanna say djc...if you read my post once again...you gonna see that i dont want much...but give much back.

the truth is...
we artists spend time...effort...and put even love in developing our projects...for free...just to share
we deserve some rights for our projects...files...images...or what ever
but lately...i have been attacked...by some people...and they wher forcing me to go their way...or else they just didnt stopped to attack me and what im doing
i dont think that its fair...to get such responses for hard work.
its nothing wrong...if i as developer wish some small and fair rules...no rules doesent means that its the best way.
i know 90% of users like what i do...and have no problems with me and my rules...but this few people...just dont stop to anger me.

there is one ultimate rule over all others.

IF YOU DONT LIKE THE DEVELOPER OR HIS RULES OR HIS CONCEPT.
JUST DONT USE HIS WORKS. STOP SUPPORT HIM.

but this few people dont want to do that...why? because they love my work...and they use it all the time...so why do they anger me...dont know...jealous...or they want copy me to get also good responses...i dont know that.

i just wished that the moderators would more react on such post...because i didnt do nothing bad...to no one!

btw...my icon set was downloaded over 15 000x times...that tells how many people are ok with me and what im doing...and how many are screaming against me...5 or 10?