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10rdan

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Well I think HTC has made a big mistake in not updating M8 with 5.1.

I know they need to concentrate on M9 and try to turn around its lack of sales, but one of the main reasons it isn't selling is because the M8 is probably, in the real world, just as good. So, anyone with an M8 is goin to be hacked off about no 5.1 update, especially as it was announced it was goin to get it, and those folk may well feel let down and NOT buy an HTC handset again.

Basically, it could further damage future HTC sales.

Just my opinion.
 

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This is exactly, what i think about HTC. It´s a big mistake, to annoy the users of the M8, because they are the buyers of tomorrow. M9 was not a big deal - too expensive, in the specs to near by the M8, much trouble at the MWC, service problems and not enough optical innovations. M10 will not be selled only by new customers.

Angry old customers look around at other manufacturers - i think, there is no light in the sky for HTC, if they will go on in this way. For me M8 was my last HTC after 13 years with around 30 HTC devices (some twice), because i´m very upset about updates and i have made an extremely bad experience with the support in this year.
 
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I feel the same as the other 2 posters. This is my 4th htc phone and the lack of updates this year is upsetting. Now you know how they are going to update the m9 next year. So why would I buy a m10. Im ditching htc when the LG nexus drops
 
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The problem with updates is this: What HTC announces today, is the disclaimer of tomorrow - look at the promises they made to the owners of the minis... now they don´t get the update to lollipop - Mini2 is also one year old. In a few month you may read, that the hardware of the m8 is not able to get the update to 6.0, as they´ve done it many times in the last years. The developers here on XDA showed, that this wasn´t the truth. HTC cheats their customers, when they buy a new device. Updates for two years, but they don´t tell, how many updates in this time. The actual market situation is self-inflicted.
 
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high_voltage

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He says they will update directly to 6.0, so no big deal for me...

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

They also said early this year that sense 7 will come with 5.1 in the summer. HTC stated that numerous times. Summer comes and bam - no 5.1 and 6.0 somewhere in the future. They don't even give some timeframe(not like they keep that too). Now put in consideration HTC current financial state and how that will affect the software development. :)

Yes, maybe M8 will get some half-baked bad update that our trusty devs will try desperately to bring to some useful state, but it will be next year and God's knows when as they will put all the working force to m9 and now new phones comes from them as aero. HTC is just awful at updating their phones(oh, I know that, I had 3 of them - desire hd, htc one x, M8 currently) and that was when they had money, now? Also let's not forget that every decent developer working in htc will run away to more secure working environment + where they pay bonuses. And last, but not least - when we get sense7 there will be sense8 out ;). Just my opinion and I really hope I am wrong.

The problem with updates is this: What HTC announces today, is the disclaimer of tomorrow - look at the promises they made to the owners of the minis... now they don´t get the update to lollipop - Mini2 is also one year old. In a few month you may read, that the hardware of the m8 is not able to get the update to 6.0, as they´ve done it many times in the last years. The developers here on XDA showed, that this wasn´t the truth. HTC cheats their customers, when they buy a new device. Updates for two years, but they don´t tell, how many updates in this time. The actual market situation is self-inflicted.

Still remember their lies about desire hd and ICS :D

Actually HTC is the worst more notable phone manufacturer about updating their phones. Low budget phones --->really bad support from all, but most of the others keep up to date their mid range phones for some time and all of them update their old flagship phones. Ha, even some update 2y+ old models.
 

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They also said early this year that sense 7 will come with 5.1 in the summer. HTC stated that numerous times. Summer comes and bam - no 5.1 and 6.0 somewhere in the future. They don't even give some timeframe(not like they keep that too). Now put in consideration HTC current financial state and how that will affect the software development. :)

Yes, maybe M8 will get some half-baked bad update that our trusty devs will try desperately to bring to some useful state, but it will be next year and God's knows when as they will put all the working force to m9 and now new phones comes from them as aero. HTC is just awful at updating their phones(oh, I know that, I had 3 of them - desire hd, htc one x, M8 currently) and that was when they had money, now? Also let's not forget that every decent developer working in htc will run away to more secure working environment + where they pay bonuses. And last, but not least - when we get sense7 there will be sense8 out ;). Just my opinion and I really hope I am wrong.



Still remember their lies about desire hd and ICS :D

Actually HTC is the worst more notable phone manufacturer about updating their phones. Low budget phones --->really bad support from all, but most of the others keep up to date their mid range phones for some time and all of them update their old flagship phones. Ha, even some update 2y+ old models.
Your right. Motorola, for instance.
 

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They also said early this year that sense 7 will come with 5.1 in the summer. HTC stated that numerous times. Summer comes and bam - no 5.1 and 6.0 somewhere in the future. They don't even give some timeframe(not like they keep that too). Now put in consideration HTC current financial state and how that will affect the software development. :)

Yes, maybe M8 will get some half-baked bad update that our trusty devs will try desperately to bring to some useful state, but it will be next year and God's knows when as they will put all the working force to m9 and now new phones comes from them as aero. HTC is just awful at updating their phones(oh, I know that, I had 3 of them - desire hd, htc one x, M8 currently) and that was when they had money, now? Also let's not forget that every decent developer working in htc will run away to more secure working environment + where they pay bonuses. And last, but not least - when we get sense7 there will be sense8 out ;). Just my opinion and I really hope I am wrong.



Still remember their lies about desire hd and ICS :D

Actually HTC is the worst more notable phone manufacturer about updating their phones. Low budget phones --->really bad support from all, but most of the others keep up to date their mid range phones for some time and all of them update their old flagship phones. Ha, even some update 2y+ old models.

I often see frustrated customers because their damage isn't covered under warranty! I think HTC is nitpicking to even avoid providing warranty :\ and given their current state, I don't think M8 will get sense 7 anytime soon. Can't wait to go back to iPhone! No delays with updates, the 4/4s are still getting updates :\
 

jshamlet

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If i dont get update who fix this battery Life until December, last HTC phone, and i will unlock it

Unlock it now, and fix your battery life problem. I'm getting close to KitKat levels of endurance, but it did require a bit of effort and tools that require root.

As for the other, the M8 is my first HTC device - I was a Samsung user before that. I switched to the HTC camp over Knox and encrypted bootloaders, and the resultant anemic dev community. I really hate to switch at this point, especially now that so many phone manufacturers are dropping SD cards and not offering bootloader unlocks.
 

woodydog

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Unlock it now, and fix your battery life problem. I'm getting close to KitKat levels of endurance, but it did require a bit of effort and tools that require root.

As for the other, the M8 is my first HTC device - I was a Samsung user before that. I switched to the HTC camp over Knox and encrypted bootloaders, and the resultant anemic dev community. I really hate to switch at this point, especially now that so many phone manufacturers are dropping SD cards and not offering bootloader unlocks.

Yeah you're in good shape if you came from Samsung. I was with the s3 and first thing I did was root to get rid of touch jiz and flash aokp. Not the same with htc. I've been very happy with sence till the long spell of no updates. It's happening with the m8 now. Look in the development section almost all the action is in asop an cm roms now sence is dying out. If I got to run asop or cm I'm going nexus
 

Firehawk989

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This is exactly, what i think about HTC. It´s a big mistake, to annoy the users of the M8, because they are the buyers of tomorrow. M9 was not a big deal - too expensive, in the specs to near by the M8, much trouble at the MWC, service problems and not enough optical innovations. M10 will not be selled only by new customers.

Angry old customers look around at other manufacturers - i think, there is no light in the sky for HTC, if they will go on in this way. For me M8 was my last HTC after 13 years with around 30 HTC devices (some twice), because i´m very upset about updates and i have made an extremely bad experience with the support in this year.

Not sure about the other big manufacturers, but Samsung is way worse with updates, (My flagship Note 10.1 2014 is still stuck on Lollipop) plus they have all that Knox and encrypted bootloader nonsense.
 

jshamlet

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Yes, my bad! My brain is in a bad place right now from a carrier provided firmware update for my M8 that is giving me no end of trouble. About to run an RUU to try and fix it since all other attempts at downgrading the firmware have failed. :mad:

Unless you are on a CDMA carrier, I would suggest getting off the carrier supplied BS train. I'm on AT&T, so I went with the Developer Edition (virtually the same ROM/FW). For other variants, the WWE seems to be the go-to non-carrier version of choice. I sleep better at night knowing the only thing AT&T on my phone is the network indicator and tramp stamp on the back.
 
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    I totally fail to understand why people think they can tell other people to get a life instead of waiting for the MM update.

    We are all here on XDA because we are interested in mobile phones, interested highly above average. We like what they can do and how they look. Getting a major OS update makes the phone feel like almost a new device. I for one look forward to what MM brings, like Android pay, better app permissions control en hopefully better battery life. I like updates to my device that make it better. Of course I want that as soon as possible, of course I'm eager and very curious. If you couldn't care less about that, what are you doing in this thread and on XDA anyway?

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    I personally still don't have a clue why many people in general are so hyped up and even bashing HTC about the updates and why it's not released for all regions at once. we get the update that's fair enough.

    HTC should be wise and don't say a single word about updates and an eta. It would be the best for many users. And it would be better for the xda servers because it would contain less spam !

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