[Discussion] Magisk alpha/alpha-lite forks by @vvb2060 Support

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Homeboy76

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Magisk Alpha has implemented appcenter tracker, include commits that are not merged into official Magisk and more unstable than Magisk Canary/Debug.
If you want MagiskHide, you can use my build instead: http://github.com/huskydg/magisk-files
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Create a Discussion Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork thread , or Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork / Discussion Thread. There are a lot of XDA Members that liked using MagiskHide and some of them have Android 9/10 devices. The XDA members with Android 9 / 10 devices would appreciate having a Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork discussion thread.
 
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Why not make this the discussion thread for ALL Magisk forks?
At any rate there is always ┤Mod Edit├┤Telegram link removed as it does not meet posting requirements├ for Husky DG Magisk Delta
Nope! @huskydg's App makes MagiskHide available for most devices. It is perfect for older devices that are still using Android 9 and 10. AFAIK, the alpha fork does does not support Android 9 and 10. Additionally, there are several XDA Member that do not use Telegram. They rely on XDA for help with their devices. Further, huskydg not only post his information on XDA but also responds to questions on XDA. Finally, a Magisk Delta huskydg Fork thread would provide a place where XDA Members that do not use Telegram can ask specific questions pertaining to his fork rather than posting them on the Magisk General Support / Discussion thread, [Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk thread, etc., that were not created for huskydg Magisk Delta fork.
 
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"...Magic alpha
Telemetry data public
https://openapi.appcenter.ms
owner_name vvb2060
app_name Magisk X-API-Token
34e45ff8c41acb07f58cdb271454e85c80622f11

A question was asked about GDPR compliance for telemetry, since no personal information that could identify a user is collected or correlated, GDPR Articles 15 to 20 do not apply. This can be confirmed via the source code tarball or the public query API.


This information is issued in fulfillment of a notification obligation.

General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)
Art. 11 GDPR – Processing which does not require identification - General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)

If the purposes for which a controller processes personal data do not or do no longer require the identification of a data subject by the controller, the controller shall not be obliged to maintain, acquire or process additional information in order to identify…"
 
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alpha changelog
Magisk (4eb71830-alpha)
- [App] Delete backup file after restoring boot image
- [App] Built-in current version update log
- [General] no longer automatically unlock device blocks
- [App] Add telemetry ┤Mod Edit├┤Telegram link removed as it does not meet posting requirements
- [App] Allow loading zygisk modules
- [MagiskInit] Fix stub cpio's missing folder caused the failure to boot
- [App] Reduce file size

How to install? Magisk is installed and uninstalled through the Magisk application. Generally, it should be done directly in the application. In special cases such as the first installation, the image should be patched and then flashed using the fastboot/odin tool. By customizing Recovery is not a supported way.

Upstream changelog
v25.1
- [MagiskBoot] Fix ramdisk backup being incorrectly skipped
- [MagiskBoot] Add new feature to detect unsupported dtb and abort during installation
- [Zygisk] Change binary hijack paths
- [App] Fix incorrect recovery mode detection and installation
- [MagiskInit] Fix config not properly exported in legacy SAR devices
- [General] Enforce the Magisk app to always match or be newer than `magiskd`
 
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Create a Discussion Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork thread , or Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork / Discussion Thread. There are a lot of XDA Members that liked using MagiskHide and some of them have Android 9/10 devices, they would appreciate having a discussion thread.
I have created a thread here
 

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Latest Unofficial vvb2060 Alpha Magisk build (Chinese translated):

# alpha changelog

## Magisk (0b26882f-alpha)
- [App] Delete backup file after restoring boot image
- [App] Built-in current version update log
- [General] no longer automatically unlock device blocks
- [App] Add telemetry... (Replaced this line excluding link after mod edit; please see following posts...)
- [App] Allow loading zygisk modules
- [MagiskInit] Fix stub cpio's missing folder caused the failure to boot
- [App] Reduce file size
- [App]Fixed that the app cannot be updated when Magisk is not installed
- [General] Fix devices that do not support encryption cannot load modules
- [MagiskInit] Fixed Android 13 GKI not rebooting into recovery mode

# Upstream changelog

##v25.1

- [MagiskBoot] Fix ramdisk backup being incorrectly skipped
- [MagiskBoot] Add new feature to detect unsupported dtb and abort during installation
- [Zygisk] Change binary hijack paths
- [App] Fix incorrect recovery mode detection and installation
- [MagiskInit] Fix config not properly exported in legacy SAR devices
- [General] Enforce the Magisk app to always match or be newer than `magiskd`

👀 PW
 
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To mod / mods concerned (+ Stephen)
Re this:
IMG_20220702_155955.jpg


This particular link complies with the posting requirements given (as well at recent clarifications I read), namely:
We will allow links to messages on Telegram and/or other platforms anywhere, as long as they provide content for a discussion, question, or is pertinent news. This is exactly like the guidelines for YouTube links.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ase-read-before-posting.3333345/post-79278325

It simply provides context and pertinent details re. Alpha telemetry data collection and MS Appcenter usage for those interested in / concerned about the [App] Add telemetry change. (Nb. There is much distrust of telemetry / Appcerter, and disallowing proper details is only perpetuating the myths surrounding such data collection and nefarious intent of Devs, etc... vvb2060 no doubt links such information to head off such misinformation currently circulating even in GitHub PRs...)

Nb. This contains NO download links and doesn't require registration to access linked information. Moreover this XDA thread is not a Development thread, and other caveats listed do not apply either...

Clearly, other messages in that TG thread contain download links and would be an issue for XDA, but this one complies fully... As such, it appears again in the Alpha changelog given above...

Respectfully, PW
 
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# alpha changelog

## Magisk (c97d1044-alpha)
- [App] Delete backup file after restoring boot image
- [App] Built-in current version update log
- [General] no longer automatically unlock device blocks
- [App] Add telemetry - Telegram link removed as it does not meet posting requirements
- [App] Allow loading zygisk modules
- [General] Update to official NDK 25, remove rust # Upstream changelog

## Magisk (f42c089b) (25102)
- [MagiskInit] Fix a potential issue when stub cpio is used
- [MagiskInit] Fix reboot to recovery when stub cpio is used
- [General] Better data encryption detection
- [General] Move the whole logging infrastructure into Rust

## Diffs to v25.1
- [MagiskInit] Fix a potential issue when stub cpio is used
- [MagiskInit] Fix reboot to recovery when stub cpio is used
- [General] Better data encryption detection
- [General] Move the whole logging infrastructure into Rust
 
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Magisk alpha said:
The new version of Magisk Lite has been developed, based on v25.2.
Relying on logcat, installation of devices with abnormal log systems is prohibited.
Removed Zygisk functionality. Module functionality is not supported and most modules are expected to break the system.
Remove the function of hiding apps, there is no need to hide apps, just uninstall them directly.
Internal testing, not public release.
 
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@huskydg Theoretically, does this replace Alpha in its entirety?
No!...

Lite is a completely different animal, and only for mavericks/ those testing/ desperate to hide difficult root traces (especially isolated process leaks etc) from bank apps and willing to sacrifice many (most?) modules (although some will work) for Lites whitelist-mode hiding... PW
 

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    @pndwal, I updated Magisk alpha.
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    @huskydg Theoretically, does this replace Alpha in its entirety?
    No!...

    Lite is a completely different animal, and only for mavericks/ those testing/ desperate to hide difficult root traces (especially isolated process leaks etc) from bank apps and willing to sacrifice many (most?) modules (although some will work) for Lites whitelist-mode hiding... PW
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    FWIW, original Alpha discussion thread is now called 街角LycoReco的處刑之道, "The way of execution at LycoReco (Lycoris Recoil, anime) on the street corner"... I haven't kept up for a long time, but see a few interesting early releases there...

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    # alpha changelog

    ## Magisk (c97d1044-alpha)
    - [App] Delete backup file after restoring boot image
    - [App] Built-in current version update log
    - [General] no longer automatically unlock device blocks
    - [App] Add telemetry - Telegram link removed as it does not meet posting requirements
    - [App] Allow loading zygisk modules
    - [General] Update to official NDK 25, remove rust # Upstream changelog

    ## Magisk (f42c089b) (25102)
    - [MagiskInit] Fix a potential issue when stub cpio is used
    - [MagiskInit] Fix reboot to recovery when stub cpio is used
    - [General] Better data encryption detection
    - [General] Move the whole logging infrastructure into Rust

    ## Diffs to v25.1
    - [MagiskInit] Fix a potential issue when stub cpio is used
    - [MagiskInit] Fix reboot to recovery when stub cpio is used
    - [General] Better data encryption detection
    - [General] Move the whole logging infrastructure into Rust
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    Magisk alpha said:
    The new version of Magisk Lite has been developed, based on v25.2.
    Relying on logcat, installation of devices with abnormal log systems is prohibited.
    Removed Zygisk functionality. Module functionality is not supported and most modules are expected to break the system.
    Remove the function of hiding apps, there is no need to hide apps, just uninstall them directly.
    Internal testing, not public release.
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    Suggestion
    Create a Discussion Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork thread , or Magisk Custom HuskyDG Fork / Discussion Thread. There are a lot of XDA Members that liked using MagiskHide and some of them have Android 9/10 devices, they would appreciate having a discussion thread.
    I have created a thread here
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    imma add my 5 cents worth, fwiw

    magisk alpha was a good and useful fork (along with custom) after TopJohnWu announced he was removing magiskhide in line with his job at Google and people lost their collective shizz, even though common sense should have told them this was needed and sane. Many of us appreciated the hard work of the alpha and custom devs, but at some point, as announced again by TJW, other hiding methods would come to fruition. And they have. Not to in anyway to devalue the contribution of alpha and custom devs, but there was always goign to be a point where mainstream magisk/magisk canary was going consolidate the attention and focus of the userbase and senior members here long into magisk, again. i for one dont miss testing/switching between 4 different forks anymore. magisk alpha was my chosen fork for a long time

    Magisk Alpha is fine to use as long as you understand its shoehorning in things removed from the mainstream magisk, and that was certainly appreciated at times, but those could cease to work, introduce issues not present in mainstream magisk leading to people expecting support from the main magisk threads where it would make life harder for those trying to answer questions. so temper your expectations those of you who choose to use.

    For my 5 cents, id recommend using mainstream magisk, unless you have an edge case where it doesnt work, at which point ordinarily, one would file on issue on github

    As for the alpha devs personality, ill admit, it could be variable at times :)
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    And your words also mean basically stay away of Shamiko
    You missed the point that alpha is a personal fork, Shamiko is a team of dev work (LSPosed team), alpha's author is one of them, don't scramble between them.
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    The author of Magisk Alpha is extremely untrustworthy. It is highly recommended to use the official version.