[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.

[roslanhashim]

Getting black screen on latest v1.7.86 of this app. Suspect is new detection mechanism. Anyone can test?

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Before this version is fine (v1.7.84). Pass safetynet, Shamiko, Added to deny list it just wont work on latest version.

Pixel 6 Pro Latest Nov patch, Magisk 25.2

i feel you bro. had the same issues. not only TnG eWallet not responding, CIMB OCTO detect rooted device. just found 2 solution:–
1: revert back to Magisk 23 (the last version with MagiskHide)
2: install Magisk Delta. i am using this and its work flawlessly.

hope its work for you too.

~kitajagakita~

 

[prokiller1199]

i feel you bro. had the same issues. not only TnG eWallet not responding, CIMB OCTO detect rooted device. just found 2 solution:–
1: revert back to Magisk 23 (the last version with MagiskHide)
2: install Magisk Delta. i am using this and its work flawlessly.

hope its work for you too.

~kitajagakita~

Thanks bro for providing your solution now. Already solved it quite long ago using 2nd solution. Kudos the help!

 

[john9965]

I am on custom aosp android 7.1.2 rom on my samsung core prime G360H. As soon as I am enabling zygisk from magisk settings, the phone is stuck on boot logo. I have magisk 25.2 installed in it with xposed 3.1.5

You should uninstall xposed framework and your phone will boot

 

[mickeychan1]

i feel you bro. had the same issues. not only TnG eWallet not responding, CIMB OCTO detect rooted device. just found 2 solution:–
1: revert back to Magisk 23 (the last version with MagiskHide)
2: install Magisk Delta. i am using this and its work flawlessly.

hope its work for you too.

~kitajagakita~

Hi! I'm also having problem with touch n go. I'm on magisk 25.2, universal safety net by kdragon v2.4... all other banking apps pass ...

Please help.... I'm not sure what you mean to install magisk v23?... Does that mean I need uninstall magisk v25 first, then install v23?

Or do I just install magisk delta directly from magisk v25, and if so, is there any guide how to do it?

Many thanks from a fellow Malaysian to another as only Malaysians uses touch n go app....

 

[J.Michael]

Hi! I'm also having problem with touch n go. I'm on magisk 25.2, universal safety net by kdragon v2.4... all other banking apps pass ...

Please help.... I'm not sure what you mean to install magisk v23?... Does that mean I need uninstall magisk v25 first, then install v23?

Or do I just install magisk delta directly from magisk v25, and if so, is there any guide how to do it?

Many thanks from a fellow Malaysian to another as only Malaysians uses touch n go app....

Read the last hundred posts in the main Magisk thread.

The safest way to change Magisk versions is to uninstall Magisk, uninstall the Magisk manager app, reboot, and start over with a different Magisk APK.

There have been recent posts about other procedures.

In this post @Fry-kun described a very simple process that I didn't believe. You can waste five minutes watching the video, or you can read the follow-up posts.

 

[roslanhashim]

Hi! I'm also having problem with touch n go. I'm on magisk 25.2, universal safety net by kdragon v2.4... all other banking apps pass ...

Please help.... I'm not sure what you mean to install magisk v23?... Does that mean I need uninstall magisk v25 first, then install v23?

Or do I just install magisk delta directly from magisk v25, and if so, is there any guide how to do it?

Many thanks from a fellow Malaysian to another as only Malaysians uses touch n go app....

yes... you need to install magisk v25 and reinstall magisk v23.

or

you can directly install MagiskDelta.apk, open it and grant root excess. reboot into recovery and install magiskdelta.zip.
reboot into system - open magisk delta apps. go to settings - switch on MagiakHide - configure MagiskHide by adding all banking apps & tng ewallet. click on 3 dot - show system apps - search google - click to hide Google Play Service, Google Play Service for AR, Google Play Store. if you install Vanced MicroG, make sure you hide it also.

long press Magisk - uninstall.

this method work for me even i have to learn it by hard way

 

[superbarney]

Hi! I'm also having problem with touch n go. I'm on magisk 25.2, universal safety net by kdragon v2.4... all other banking apps pass ...

Please help.... I'm not sure what you mean to install magisk v23?... Does that mean I need uninstall magisk v25 first, then install v23?

Or do I just install magisk delta directly from magisk v25, and if so, is there any guide how to do it?

Many thanks from a fellow Malaysian to another as only Malaysians uses touch n go app....

I just tried out Magisk Delta. Using that seemed to have allowed the TnG app to run again. Other bank apps and Grab are working fine still too. Hopefully the changes that is in Magisk Delta can be integrated into the original Magisk in the near future.

 

[wyt18]

I just tried out Magisk Delta. Using that seemed to have allowed the TnG app to run again. Other bank apps and Grab are working fine still too. Hopefully the changes that is in Magisk Delta can be integrated into the original Magisk in the near future.

What about lsposed/zygisk? Would that work with Delta?

 

[mickeychan1]

yes... you need to install magisk v25 and reinstall magisk v23.

or

you can directly install MagiskDelta.apk, open it and grant root excess. reboot into recovery and install magiskdelta.zip.
reboot into system - open magisk delta apps. go to settings - switch on MagiakHide - configure MagiskHide by adding all banking apps & tng ewallet. click on 3 dot - show system apps - search google - click to hide Google Play Service, Google Play Service for AR, Google Play Store. if you install Vanced MicroG, make sure you hide it also.

long press Magisk - uninstall.

this method work for me even i have to learn it by hard way

thanks! I will try it!

 

[koberulz]

I don't really keep up with Android stuff, just pop in periodically when I get a new phone.

I remember seeing that topjohnwu got hired at Google, and as part of that they insisted he remove Magisk Hide functionality. Not sure what happened after that, but I just avoided any Android and Magisk updates and I've been fine. Unfortunately, I accidentally clicked on a Magisk update the other day and now it doesn't work, I get periodic "Magisk has stopped" messages and trying to click on it in the app drawer does nothing.

So...what exactly is its status? It seems to still be going, contrary to the dev-hired-at-Google-and-app-nerfed narrative I was aware of. Not sure how to go about resolving my problem. I guess updating to Android 12 might be back on the table?

Pixel 3.

 

[zgfg]

I don't really keep up with Android stuff, just pop in periodically when I get a new phone.

I remember seeing that topjohnwu got hired at Google, and as part of that they insisted he remove Magisk Hide functionality. Not sure what happened after that, but I just avoided any Android and Magisk updates and I've been fine. Unfortunately, I accidentally clicked on a Magisk update the other day and now it doesn't work, I get periodic "Magisk has stopped" messages and trying to click on it in the app drawer does nothing.

So...what exactly is its status? It seems to still be going, contrary to the dev-hired-at-Google-and-app-nerfed narrative I was aware of. Not sure how to go about resolving my problem. I guess updating to Android 12 might be back on the table?

Pixel 3.

There is a lot to read in the OP posts right in this thread - for the beginning

And then some newer stuff, ongoing in the later posts in this thread, Magisk general, Google Pay thread (if you use it)

Btw, you could search for PixelFlasher XDA thread, a tool for OTA updating Pixel phones and (re)installing/updating Magisk

 

[koberulz]

There is a lot to read in the OP posts right in this thread - for the beginning

And then some newer stuff, ongoing in the later posts in this thread

I'm not going to read an entire 150-page thread, though, and what I've found seems conflicting. Magisk Hide is dead, but there's a Deny list, but apps can still detect root now because Magisk can't do anything to prevent that...

I need Hide, because my banking and streaming apps won't work otherwise.

 

[zgfg]

I'm not going to read an entire 150-page thread, though, and what I've found seems conflicting. Magisk Hide is dead, but there's a Deny list, but apps can still detect root now because Magisk can't do anything to prevent that...

I need Hide, because my banking and streaming apps won't work otherwise.

I said to read OP = Original Poster posts in this thread to see what's different in the new Magisk and how to configure and use - eg, Zygisk and DenyList instead of the old MagiskHide, about hiding (not only Magisk but the whole 'root') by Shamiko, USNF, the things you're asking for

You don't have time to read 150 pages - I think nobody has hours (if not more - accounting for answering additional questions when you open Pandora box, like where the Module repo is 'gone', etc) to write several pages now exclusively for you about the 'status' of the new Magisk, or do you really expect that?

That's exactly why this thread was opened at the beginning and a lot of patience spent by the OP poster to give the newcomers to the new Magisk v24 (now v25) a quick start

But if it's still too much to concentrate and to read, then better give up and go back to Magisk v23

There is also a fork Magisk Delta - it's based on the new Magisk but with MagiskHide instead of DenyList (it can be used with this new Zygisk or without).
To make hiding easier, Delta also provides Whitelist mode named SuList (in MagiskHide you list those apps you want to hide from, in SuList you list the opposite - those apps you don't want to hide, hence when you install new 'banking' app you don't need to add to MagiskHide and reboot).
Delta has its own thread on XDA (search can find it)

 

[koberulz]

I said to read OP = Original Poster posts in this thread to see what's different in the new Magisk and how to configure and use - eg, Zygisk and DenyList instead of the old MagiskHide, about hiding (not only Magisk but the whole 'root') by Shamiko, USNF, the things you're asking for

I've read it, and I'm confused.

It implies DenyList replaces Hide, but then the Magisk FAQs say Magisk has no features to prevent apps seeing root. Those seem contradictory to me.

I'm sure there's nowhere near 150 pages of information I actually need, so reading the entire thread would largely be a waste of time.

 

[zgfg]

I've read it, and I'm confused.

It implies DenyList replaces Hide, but then the Magisk FAQs say Magisk has no features to prevent apps seeing root. Those seem contradictory to me.

I'm sure there's nowhere near 150 pages of information I actually need, so reading the entire thread would largely be a waste of time.

DenyList is not exactly for hiding but it partially helps for that

Zygisk provides the mechanism for additional modules to help for hiding - like the Shamiko module

To pass Play Integrity API (no intention now here to describe what it is and how it supersedes the deprecated SafetyNet), you will need the latest USNF

(I think all that above was shortly addressed in the OP posts)

Some 'banking' apps search deeper for 'root' and you may additionally need Hide My Apps (HMA) - btw, that would apply also to the users of the old, pre-Zygisk Magisk (but would require to search for Riru based LSPosed instead of the new, Zygisk-LSPosed)

And again, there is a Delta fork that includes Zygisk but also the old MagiskHide (in the whitelist SuList mode or classical blacklist MagiskHide list) instead of DenyList - exactly because the developer wants to help himself and his users to easier hide

All these are just bullets for further (re)search

Edit:
There is also a MagiskHide module (from the developer of Magisk Delta) for the official Magisk, that gives you back the MagiskHide to the new Magisk v25xxx

 

[koberulz]

Looking at PixelFlasher, it requires I give the shell root access in Magisk, but I can't do that, because Magisk won't open.

 

[zgfg]

Looking at PixelFlasher, it requires I give the shell root access in Magisk, but I can't do that, because Magisk won't open.

Better ask in the Pixel Flasher thread

Btw, if you just 'blindly' updated from Magisk v23 to the new Magisk v25 (being new with what it brings), there are might be various reasons why "Magisk does not open"

Btw, who does not open: Magisk app or it opens but does not recognize Magisk installed (due to remaining your old 'Hide Magisk' app/manager on the phone), or you go to ADB or Terminal emulator and you cannot grant root access, etc

It would probably be better to uninstall Magisk (by flashing uninstall.zip through TWRP, as described on the official Magisk GitHub page - btw, another guide, official, for the new Magisk) and then to install from scratch (as described in the guide on GitHub or probably by use of Pixel Flasher)

 

[koberulz]

Btw, who does not open: Magisk app or it opens but does not recognize Magisk installed (due to remaining your old 'Hide Magisk' app/manager on the phone), or you go to ADB or Terminal emulator and you cannot grant root access, etc

If I click on Magisk in my app drawer, nothing happens.

 

[zgfg]

If I click on Magisk in my app drawer, nothing happens.

Then follow the second part of my post you quoted, fully uninstall Magisk (not just the app) and clean install the new v25 - see the Magisk official installation (and uninstallation) guide and possibly (I don't have Pixel) the PixelFlasher guide

Sorry, that's it. Not easy now to jump now (or advise about - for someone's else phone) from Magisk v23 to v25, with the number of unknown variables - his phone and ROM, installed modules and their (in) compatibilities, did he do Hide Magisk app and how he renamed Magisk app or he does not remember that, etc)

 

[koberulz]

How do I uninstall? I can't access the app to uninstall it, and the uninstallation instructions just say that if you can't do that, "flash it like any flashable zip", and I have no idea how to do that. I know TWRP stopped working, is that back? The TWRP thread in the Pixel 3 forum hasn't been updated in years. Or can I just flash it with fastboot?